Why are Men Never Considered too Skinny?

[SpursWoman]

You know what's really funny?

You thinking Adam told Eve....no dear, you stay there on the couch, I'll take out the trash.

Sounds like every man I've ever known

You know what's even funnier than that? That the thread starter was a starter and/or main participant in a thread en led:


Hottest Girl Ever?

Where pictures of girls are posted, and then systematically disected by every male participant in the thread....and it's not the only thread of it's kind. The forum happens to be saturated with like that in every avatar/signature/post/whathe ever.

And then he's going to say, with a seemingly straight face, that men have little or nothing whatsoever to do with how a woman feels about herself, and what she puts herself through to be one of the attractive ones?

OMG.

[whottt]

I don't see a whole lot of skinny men on magazine covers

Ok, with women, on the cover of Cosmopolitan maybe. Who is that aimed at?

Now go look at the cover of Hustler...note the differences.

and starring in movies or on television.

A movie made with a female lead to attract men will have someone like Pamela Anderson in it...

Skinny men don't sell. I'm not sure what the basis for this thread is.

Most things which skinny women are used to market are aimed at women...

Fashion Shows have the skinniest ones...who are those aimed at?

Ditto most magazines?

Even the Swimsuit issue...they list the price and designers on the pages...who do you think they are aiming that bit of information at?


But take a look at the Centerpiece, and the one all the men are wanting to check out...it's Beyonce, not exactly a twig.



Men want to see women like Dolly Parton(in her prime)...that's what sells to them.

The whole skinny women movement is driven by women. It's a definite.

[whottt]

You know what's even funnier than that? That the thread starter was a starter and/or main participant in a thread en led:


Hottest Girl Ever?

Where pictures of girls are posted, and then systematically disected by every male participant in the thread....and it's not the only thread of it's kind. The forum happens to be saturated with like that in every avatar/signature/post/whathe ever.

And then he's going to say, with a seemingly straight face, that men have little or nothing whatsoever to do with how a woman feels about herself, and what she puts herself through to be one of the attractive ones?

OMG.

JGW, you get props for getting SW to post again

[AFBlue]

Ok, with women, on the cover of Cosmopolitan maybe. Who is that aimed at?

Now go look at the cover of Hustler...note the differences.

A movie made with a female lead to attract men will have someone like Pamela Anderson in it...

Most things which skinny women are used to market are aimed at women...

Fashion Shows have the skinniest ones...who are those aimed at?

Ditto most magazines?

Even the Swimsuit issue...they list the price and designers on the pages...who do you think they are aiming that bit of information at?

But take a look at the Centerpiece, and the one all the men are wanting to check out...it's Beyonce, not exactly a twig.

Men want to see women like Dolly Parton(in her prime)...that's what sells to them.

The whole skinny women movement is driven by women. It's a definite.

Skinny women and women with big boobs/asses are not mutually exclusive.....skinny women can have big boobs or big butts.

[Spurminator]

I may have missed the point of the thread, but I thought this was just JGW ing about people saying Marisa Miller is too skinny and claiming men aren't held to the same standard.

I think both sexes have a their fair share of blame when it comes to image expectations for women.

[whottt]

Skinny women and women with big boobs/asses are not mutually exclusive

The number of women that can pull off both without surgery is extremely rare.

Additionally...

skinny women can have big boobs or big butts.

Yeap...I know women are always asking me if their butt looks too small.

[AFBlue]

I may have missed the point of the thread, but I thought this was just JGW ing about people saying Marisa Miller is too skinny and claiming men aren't held to the same standard.

Not sure of the original intent for this thread, but for JGW it boils down to blaming women for wanting to make themselves skinny.

[Spurminator]

I blame people.

[AFBlue]

The number of women that can pull off both without surgery is extremely rare.

Just because it's unattainable for most women, doesn't mean they won't do whatever's necessary to get there. My point is that women want to be that "perfect" girl, because guys want that "perfect" girl.

[Shelly]

I believe the term for skinny guys is Manorexic.

[Shelly]

Just because it's unattainable for most women, doesn't mean they won't do whatever's necessary to get there. My point is that women want to be that "perfect" girl, because guys want that "perfect" girl.

Then they have huge self-esteem issues. Maybe because some dude is telling them they aren't perfect enough. Funny thing, it's usually coming from someone who's not quite so perfect themself.

[Shelly]

Hey, SW!

Are you working from home today?

[whottt]

Just because it's unattainable for most women, doesn't mean they won't do whatever's necessary to get there.

Whether men think they should be thinner, or not...

My point is that women want to be that "perfect" girl, because guys want that "perfect" girl.

Yeah...and women don't have their own ideas about the perfect man.

And they want to be beautiful out of a desire to please that one special man in their life...


Boy are you in for a lot of learning.

[SpursWoman]

I forgot something I needed so I came home for lunch to get it.

[AFBlue]

Then they have huge self-esteem issues. Maybe because some dude is telling them they aren't perfect enough. Funny thing, it's usually coming from someone who's not quite so perfect themself.

Or because they think that's what a guy wants them to look like. There are "those guys" though....sad.

[SpursWoman]

Whether men think they should be thinner, or not...







Yeah...and women don't have their own ideas about the perfect man.

And they want to be beautiful out of a desire to please that one special man in their life...


Boy are you in for a lot of learning.

So are you agreeing with JGW or not? Because I agree with the last thing you said....well, the last two things you said.

[AFBlue]

Whether men think they should be thinner, or not....

Right. I'm not saying women aren't culpable, but the basis for their weight obsession (if indeed they have one) is men, at the root.

Yeah...and women don't have their own ideas about the perfect man.

And they want to be beautiful out of a desire to please that one special man in their life...


Boy are you in for a lot of learning.

I didn't say that women weren't shallow and don't have an ideally perfect man. That's another argument altogether.

If they have "one special man", chances are they don't have that desire. It's in the search for that "one special man" that I would guess most of the importance is placed on being thin.

[Shelly]

Or because they think that's what a guy wants them to look like. There are "those guys" though....sad.

Well, if all the "who's hotter" threads are any indication, then you are correct.

I think it's a combo of the two.

[Shelly]

The perfect guy usually ends up being gay

[whottt]

S y...I assure you I am not now, nor have I ever been gay.

[AFBlue]

Well, if all the "who's hotter" threads are any indication, then you are correct.

I think it's a combo of the two.

Right, I don't think women are wrong for thinking the way they do. The majority of men in this society are attracted to that "hourglass" figure....big butt, big boobs, no waist.

And I agree with you that both are culpable. JGW and Whottt would have you think that it's a fabrication of a woman's psyche what ideal they should work towards and that it all lies on them. I just disagree with that...

[SpursWoman]

If they have "one special man", chances are they don't have that desire. It's in the search for that "one special man" that I would guess most of the importance is placed on being thin.

The desire never goes away.

[Shelly]

S y...I assure you I am not now, nor have I ever been gay.

My bad! I was thinking of Whottt with a period after his name.

[whottt]

So are you agreeing with JGW or not? Because I agree with the last thing you said....well, the last two things you said.

Kinda agreeing with him on certain things...but he does have a skinny woman fetish...so he's kinda destroying his own credibility.


I agree with JGW that the pressure to be thinner is female driven moreseo than male. IMO, it is. It's occurred in societies where women are largely independent, including our own as women become more and more independent...whereas you look at the cultures where women basically have no rights(like the mid eastern) and the women there are heavier in general(unless the culture has food problems or something).

I am not saying that women aren't taught to judge their worth by their looks...only that you can't hang the beanpole fashion model movement on men....it's not the look men generally go for.

[AFBlue]

The desire never goes away.

I think the "edge" can be taken off when someone has found a deeper connection than physical. I'm not saying that when two people fall in love it gives them carte blanche to let themselves completely go, but I think when it becomes about more than just looks, the importance of that factor is diminshed...not destroyed, but lessened.