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  1. #101
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    I disagree...

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    Therefore, since TD >= DRob, ipso facto TD >>> KG, Q.E.D.
    You forgot to say "vis a vis."

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    In the 2001-02 season, the San Antonio Spurs surrounded Tim Duncan with a David Robinson slowed by an injured back, a scrawny rookie Tony Parker, an immobile Steve Smith, 85-year-old Terry Porter, Danny Ferry, Bruce Bowen, Malik Rose, and Antonio Daniels.

    Charles "Spider" Smith started 22 games at small forward for that team.
    Mark Bryant started 3 games for that team.

    The 2001-02 Spurs went 58-24.

    Anybody floating the "KG just didn't have a good enough supporting cast" argument can shove it up their ass.

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    Garnett has never made one player he played with better. Meanwhile, Duncan turns late 1st and late 2nd round picks into all-stars. I think that really sums it up
    So you don't think Tony and Manu would be All-Start anywhere else?

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    So you don't think Tony and Manu would be All-Start anywhere else?
    Not in 2003.

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    So you don't think Tony and Manu would be All-Start anywhere else?
    I do. I think their numbers would be better elsewhere because they would be the #1 option on a lot of teams.

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    I prefer the term sexual...
    sexual.

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    Been there, done that.

    Lost.
    Please tell me you're not talking about 04. That's just hilarious.

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    Let me know when KG is able to win a championship, let alone four.
    Let me know when KG has a decent supporting cast. I agree that Duncan is better than Garnett, but it's not a huge margin, and Garnett has been viciously screwed over by ownership.

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    Garnett can put up all the meaningless stats he wants. Duncan's got the rings. Suck it es.

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    Garnett can put up all the meaningless stats he wants. Duncan's got the rings. Suck it es.
    Fascinating.

    Garnett, Ginobili, Parker would be one of a Big Three, especially if Pop was coaching.

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    Independent of comparisons to Duncan, I rate Kevin Garnett as the fourth-best power forward of all-time, just behind the fat guy on TNT, and just ahead of the incompetent GM of the Timberwolves.

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    Garnett can put up all the meaningless stats he wants. Duncan's got the rings. Suck it es.
    You do realize that if Duncan was in Garnett's situation, he would also have no rings? Not saying that KG would have 4 if he was with the Spurs, but he would at least have a couple. Don't blame the man for what's out of his control.

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    You do realize that if Duncan was in Garnett's situation, he would also have no rings? Not saying that KG would have 4 if he was with the Spurs, but he would at least have a couple. Don't blame the man for what's out of his control.
    Or Foye would have been rookie of the year, Hudson would have led the league in 3 pointers, Hassell would have been a defensive player of the year award candidate, Ricky Davis would average over 20, and Eddie Griffin would have never have been caught yanking it

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    Or Foye would have been rookie of the year, Hudson would have led the league in 3 pointers, Hassell would have been a defensive player of the year award candidate, Ricky Davis would average over 20, and Eddie Griffin would have never have been caught yanking it
    You forgot that Duncan would bring peace to the Middle East and fix world hunger.

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    Or Foye would have been rookie of the year, Hudson would have led the league in 3 pointers, Hassell would have been a defensive player of the year award, Ricky Davis would average over 20, and Eddie Griffin would have never have been caught yanking it
    Hudson is streaky

    Hassel is a good defender, not great

    Ricky Davis is nothing more than a glorified And 1 baller.

    And I really don't see what Duncan would have done to stop Griffin from "yanking it" unless Duncan was sucking him off himself.

    But nice try though.

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    Garnett, Ginobili, Parker would be one of a Big Three, especially if Pop was coaching.
    Would they?

    I know this is all speculation, just like saying Duncan could make the Playoffs with Garnett's 2006 team, but does KG+Manu+Parker sound like a Championship team to you?

    Would KG and Parker even get along?

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    Hudson is streaky

    Hassel is a good defender, not great

    Ricky Davis is nothing more than a glorified And 1 baller.

    And I really don't see what Duncan would have done to stop Griffin from "yanking it" unless Duncan was sucking him off himself.

    But nice try though.
    http://www.usingenglish.com/glossary/sarcasm.html

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    Would they?

    I know this is all speculation, just like saying Duncan could make the Playoffs with Garnett's 2006 team, but does KG+Manu+Parker sound like a Championship team to you?

    Would KG and Parker even get along?
    I think it sounds like a championship team. Of course nothing is guarnateed, but with Pop coaching I'd definitely say they'd be a serious contender.

    And why wouldn't Parker and KG get along? KG is a pretty good teammate and a pretty patient superstar.

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    Fascinating.

    Garnett, Ginobili, Parker would be one of a Big Three, especially if Pop was coaching.
    What's fascinating is a Suns fan arguing whether KG is better than Duncan-shouldn't you be ing about losing to the Spurs? However it is good to know you are taking a break from that.


    Anyway, I think it's ridiculous how the teammate argument always comes up. Duncan never had tremendous talent around him until 04-05 (with the exception of Robinson in 97-98, 98-99, 99-00). Duncan won one ring those years. After 2000, Robinson was so injured all the time and was not the same player. Tell me who Duncan had in: 2001-2002, 2002-2003, and 2003-2004, that was a consistent scorer who produced something every night? No one. KG had Hudson and Wally Sczerbiack, Wally was even an all-star one of those years I believe. They were much more consistent than Tony Parker was. KG didn't make it out of the first round, even with those players. Duncan made it to the second in 01-02, and 03-04. He won a 'ship in 02-03. So shut the up about teammates. Garnetts had some, he just chokes when it matters. Duncan wins when it matters. You're going to sit here and argue when Duncan has won so much more than Garnett? Maybe if it was once or twice more than Garnett, sure, you could make an argument. But Duncan has obliterated anything Garnett has ever done. 2 MVPS, 4 Rings, 3 Finals MVPs, etc. The list goes on.

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    KG is a pretty good teammate
    I'm not sure I understand where this perception comes from. KG has feuded with teammates on several occasions, and I have a hard time characterizing someone who would punch a rookie for outplaying him in a pickup game as a "good teammate."

    He and Wally never got along, and I know Wally isn't exactly a Clubhouse Brent Barry, but I can imagine Tim Duncan making it work somehow. Rasho Nesterovic took a paycut to get out of Minnesota, and it wasn't because of the weather...

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    What's fascinating is a Suns fan arguing whether KG is better than Duncan-shouldn't you be ing about losing to the Spurs? However it is good to know you are taking a break from that.
    I never said KG is better than Duncan.

    Nor have I ed about losing to the Spurs.

    Do you even know who you're talking to?

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    Let me know when KG has a decent supporting cast. I agree that Duncan is better than Garnett, but it's not a huge margin, and Garnett has been viciously screwed over by ownership.
    Until 2005, Duncan had played with 1 guy who had made an All-Star team within the prior 2 years (David Robinson) and at most with 2 guys who had made an All-Star team within the 4 previous years (Robinson and Elliott (1996)).

    In 2004, Garnett played in a starting lineup that had 4 guys (Garnett, Sprewell, Cassell, and Szczerbiak) who fit that bill -- each of those guys had made an All-Star team within the prior 4 years. KG played with 3 All-Stars for 3 seasons. His casts probably haven't always been as good as Duncan's historically, but during that time, it's impossible (IMO) to say that Garnett had a worse supporting cast.

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    Still dreaming about KG huh Suns fans. Not likely to happen.

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    I never said KG is better than Duncan.

    Nor have I ed about losing to the Spurs.

    Do you even know who you're talking to?
    The first part was directed towards you. The second everyone in the threat that wants to say that KG is better or as good as Duncan. Yep, I do know who I'm talking to.

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