And yet you wanted to sign with him.^
Speaking of "established coaches" the talk around Dallas and Houston is that Avery Johnson is seriously embarrassed by Cuban's antics. Read Cuban's own blog on the Dallas Morning News -- majority of the Mavs fans are very ashamed of Cuban as well. The joke needs to go ahead and purchase the Cubs as he states he wants to. He'll still be a LOSER and a JOKE but at least he won't reside in Texas !!!!!!!
Well, he was on Galloway and Company during my commute home from work. They didn't ask him about it, but he doesn't sound like somebody planning to leave the Mavericks anytime soon. It's entirely possible that "inside information" is nothing more than legal jargon related to Cuban's counter-claim regarding the no-compete clause.
Thanks Reggie. Didn't stop the media or opposing fans from running with it to flog Cuban. And I find it interesting that Nellie finds the candor to give his version of events on the eve of the free-agency signing period. It makes the Mavericks look like a dysfunctional franchise run by Howard Hughes. If that were true, we wouldn't have been one of the upper-echelon teams in the last seven years.I think when this is all said and done, we will discover that is was really all about $6.5 million dollars. As an attorney, I will add that so far all we have is a polemic from Nelson's side, which is not evidence.
The legal consensus is that Cuban is going to lose that lawsuit. He's holding up on paying Nellie out of spite because what isn't in dispute is that Nellie quit on this team after Nash signed with Phoenix. However, he didn't step down right away. He just did a lackluster coaching job. Cuban took that quite personally and is using his fortune to tie this up in litigation as long as possible.
I agree that $6.5 million is not worth this kind of public fight. And it doesn't matter even if objective, impartial observers sided with Cuban after hearing both sides' versions and all the facts. Getting into this kind of ugly dispute only hurts your franchise. He should pay Nellie the money, release an insincere press release grudingly praising him for his contributions to the franchise and wish him well and move on.In the final analysis, this would not be a smart move for Cuban, since established coaches would now be leery of taking the Dallas job. Also, it certainly doesn't look good to the outside world. That said, 6.5 million dollars buys a LOT of pride.
Hey, he's not selling off our draft picks like Sarver. He's not raising tickets prices and content to just make a buck like Sterling of Bob Johnson. He has more of a ing clue that Dolan. I mean, honestly, how many owners in this league are better than him? I can honestly say I'd only take Holt, Davidson and a few others over Mark Cuban.
You're letting your dislike of Cuban color the fact that he does a better job of running his franchise than most.
Oh all you Spurs fans can me especially hard up the anal tract with a ten foot poll. you guys make me so sick. you make me want to vomit, eat my vomit, and vomit again. two words, WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS! how did it feel to get beat at home in game 7 last year? oh nevermind, you guys disappeared like roaches after that game. im not even worried about that greasy trash dunghole you call San Antonio, home to the world's only toilet museum. you'll want to sue me after we're done sweeping you guys next year in the playoffs. then i'll ride through San Antonio on my white stallion ting all over your town, not even SAM HOUSTON WILL BE ABLE TO STOP ME!!!!!
as far as this case goes, stay the out of it. all you San Antonians know about the courtroom is that you arent allowed to bring in yer guns or burritos. what do they teach you guys in your school system anyway? oh yeah, RECESS! in fact, i might just make up my whole jury full of Mav fans, and i know they will back me against that assShard Don Nelson. he doesnt stand a ing chance!
my son!
Hmmm .. .Cuban ....You're a woosie!!!!!!!
Quote please? The entry on his blog specifically rejected notions of conspiracy theories and fixing as ludicrous. I think all he took exception to was the Stackhouse suspension. And I agree it was bull . I don't feel like opening up another line of argument, so if you don't see it the same way, we can just agree to disagree.Last year he blames his team's meltdown on the league hooking up Wade and Miami, calls it all fixed, and threatens to sell the team.
So says Nellie. He's not exacty unbiased here.This year, a month after his season ends, he pulls this crap and acts like his team only lost because Nellie was getting passed the game plans or something stupid like that.
Agreed, which is why this whole thing doesn't pass the smell test.GS didn't need insider info. to beat the Mavs, they were in their heads (from the players to AJ to Cuban) before the series even started, and it was already over at that point.
I don't idolize the man, and I'm not blind to his faults, believe me, amongst Maverick fans, a lot of fun is poked at him and his ways, but I appreciate his contributions in turning the Mavs around. I'm not going to throw him under the bus on the basis of Nellie's word alone.Sadly, a lot of people up here in Dallas do. My cousin already had a meltdown over this today via email, and he idolizes Cuban.
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I'm dealing with those losses just fine. Life goes on. What you can't seem to deal with is that when two people are feuding, one person's claims aren't automatically the gospel. If you ever have to deal with the criminal justice system or get sued yourself, you'll be grateful for this principle.
I rest my case troll.
My reply to all of this is...but more importantly...
How so? Didn't he pay Nellie a consulting gig for a year after Nellie quit on the team? That's awfully generous.
Del Harris retired and he's paying him to stay around as a consultant. Cuban is a flawed human being like anybody else, but you make him out to be Darth Vader.
I'm sure the Ticket got an entertaining segment out of it on a slow news day today, but they aren't the final authority on anything.
you had respect for cuban to begin with? ive always thought that guy was a in loser and have never respected him whatsoever.
Sarver and Dolan are Cuban clones. They are rich fans with egos that make the same kind of decisions. So far, Sarver's had as much success as Cuban has, because he bought a team with talent, good personnel people and an arena. Robert Johnson is running an expansion franchise, and has yet to "make a buck" while he gets it established.
Mark Cuban has done a better job with the Mavericks than anyone else that's owned the team, but that's kind of like saying Sterling is the best owner the Clippers have had since they moved to LA. My dislike for him has been well earned over the last seven and a half years. I followed and liked the Mavericks until he deposited his money and withdrew all the class.
Did Cuban bust his hip in the shower while trying to Dirk in the ass?
No, his butthole buddy, Findog, was giving it a try but his 1-incher just didn't work for Cuban and the extender broke sending them both to their knees. Tragically, Cuban broke his hip trying to get up. As for Findog ----- you can only imagine !!
I understand what you (Findog) are saying but this just screams Cuban, therefore Im inclined to believe the original article.
....Boy who cried wolf....
Give it up, Findog. The Mavericks have the biggest whining bag among all pro sports owners, and this is just another episode of the same story.
I do agree that this is probably more financial and letter-of-the-law nitpicking. But that doesn't change the fact that it is Cuban who is coming off looking foolish. So first he won't pay Nellie. So Nellie goes and signs with another team. Then Cuban blames Nellie for contractual violation? Heck, Cuban committed the first violation by not paying Nellie. What was Nellie supposed to do, honor his "contract" even when he wasn't getting paid?
Embarrassing. Cuban has hit a new low and outdone Suns fans at the whining game.
LOL @ Findog trying to discount the flagship station of the Dallas Mavericks here in Dallas as uninformed. Keep spinning, Findog.
Too much butt secks....
Holy . I totally called this way back in march in a thread en led "wouldn't it be awesome..." going on to say:
"...if Golden State beat out the Clippers for the 8th spot in the West and Don Nelson got a chance to oust the Mavericks in the first round. If that happened Mark Cuban might try sanctioning the league to declare Don Nelson "illeagal". Go Warriors!"
Wow. Nailed that one.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62191
You better hide. Cubeless will find a way to sue you too !!!!!
$5 billion = dip
!!!!!
The Ticket = Gospel? I listen to them everyday, because I can't stand Mike and Mike or Galloway. But they have as much insight on this as you do, which is digesting an Eddie Sefko article.
Also, doesn't ESPN local have the Mavericks radio rights as far "flagship" station goes?
Last edited by Findog; 06-29-2007 at 08:57 PM.
Making fun of the Riverwalk stings that much?Give it up, Findog. The Mavericks have the biggest whining bag among all pro sports owners, and this is just another episode of the same story.
.I do agree that this is probably more financial and letter-of-the-law nitpicking
But it's an opportunity to pile on and crack jokes. Hey, it's a Spurs board, you're having fun, but you're also out on a limb.
But that doesn't change the fact that it is Cuban who is coming off looking foolish. So first he won't pay Nellie. So Nellie goes and signs with another team. Then Cuban blames Nellie for contractual violation? Heck, Cuban committed the first violation by not paying Nellie. What was Nellie supposed to do, honor his "contract" even when he wasn't getting paid?
The arbitrator's job is to sift through competing claims. But so far all we have is Nellie's lawyer saying "He's suing us for winning that series." If I'm ever accused of something, I don't want you on my jury.
Good, if I'm ever charged with a crime, hopefully you won't be on the jury.
I REALLY try to like Cuban. I enjoy listening to him talk about business and love his passion for the game of basketball.
But damn, why does he have to be an asshat.
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