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    This was on CNNSI.com

    Bizarre twists to Cuban-Nellie lawsuit
    Posted: Friday June 29, 2007 07:37AM ET
    Don Nelson is being sued by Mavericks owner Mark Cuban for using "confidential information" to beat his former team in the playoffs, and if an arbitrator agrees with this claim, then Nelson might not be allowed to coach again for Golden State. According to John O'Connor, Nelson's San Francisco-based attorney, Cuban is claiming Nelson was still under contract with the Mavericks, and therefore he couldn't work for the Warriors.


    What a sore loser. He can't accept that his Mavs choked! Now it seems he wants Nellie out of Golden State! I always kind of liked Cuban for his passion about his basketball team, but now I've lost all respect for him.

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    What a hypocrite. Shouldn't then this same principle apply to Avery JOhnson and the 2006 defeat of the Spurs by the Mavs in the playoffs?

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    That is totally absurd.

    Cuban, we got news for you..

    The fact that Dirk is a big choker is NOT confidential information.

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    What a hypocrite. Shouldn't then this same principle apply to Avery JOhnson and the 2006 defeat of the Spurs by the Mavs in the playoffs?
    We could make that excuse, but we have class. We are a no-excuse ball club, unlike the mavs and suns.

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    The fact that Dirk is a big choker is NOT confidential information.
    Worst kept secret in the NBA.

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    Priceless! Does Cuban realize how ridiculous this sounds? He's suing Nellie for knowing how to trip up his choking team ... what's next? Is he going to sue Finley for helping his division rivals win the le while collecting Cuban's checks?

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    wtf Cuban, move on

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    I'm calling bull on this story. I googled it and can't find a single reference to it. Plus it just sounds fake. Link please.

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    What a bag.


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    I'm calling bull on this story. I googled it and can't find a single reference to it. Plus it just sounds fake. Link please.
    I dont bull . Here is you f'n link

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/8851

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    Teh Google failed me, sorry for the bull call. I can't ing believe this is real. I just lost what little respect I had left for Cuban.

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    Here's the article in the Ft. Worth newspaper. Mark Cuban has official retired the Biggest Ever award.

    http://www.star-telegram.com/287/story/152950.html
    Posted on Fri, Jun. 29, 200

    Is Mavs owner now crying foul?

    By JEFF CAPLAN
    Star-Telegram Staff Writer

    Mavericks owner Mark Cuban believes Golden State's sizzling shooting alone didn't sink his basketball team in the most stunning playoff defeat in NBAhistory.

    That's according to Don Nelson's attorney, John O'Connor, who said Cuban is suing Nelson, claiming the Warriors beat the Mavs in the first round because the Warriors' coach -- and former coach of the Mavs -- had "confidential information and he [Cuban] wants to enjoin Don from coaching against the Mavericks."

    "There is no basis in our view," O'Connor said. "I suppose he [Nelson] knows [Dirk] Nowitzki likes to go right instead of left, but normally that's not a trade secret."

    In an e-mail, Cuban acknowledged he and his lawyer have "claims" against Nelson, but is "not sure how we are handling them." Cuban offered a "no comment" when asked Thursday night for a description of "confidential information."

    This new twist is an extension of an ongoing feud about compensation between the two men, who together resurrected the Mavs' franchise. Nelson sued Cuban last winter, claiming he is due $6.5 million in deferred payments dating to the Ross Perot Jr. ownership group.

    Cuban contends Nelson forfeited the money when he accepted the Golden State job because it breached a "non-compete" clause in his Mavs contract, a $200,000-a-year consulting position that ran through 2011.

    O'Connor said Cuban had stopped paying Nelson before he took the Golden State job and Nelson believed he was no longer bound to the "non-compete" clause.

    "Bottom line is that when he took the Golden State job, he was still under his consulting agreement which had a 'non-compete' in it," Cuban wrote. "Part of the logic was that the 'non-compete' would keep him from working elsewhere since he was going to retire, or so he claimed every time. He was fine with the 'non-compete.' Until he wasn't. That's the basis of our claim."

    An arbitrator is expected to tackle the claims in October.

    "I'm the victim," Nelson said. "I'm embarrassed by this, and I hope that the truth will come out. It will all come out in the arbitration."

    If the arbitrator rules Nelson did violate the "non-compete" clause, it's doubtful, Cuban surmised, that a judgment would prohibit Nelson from coaching the Warriors.

    "The real issue," Cuban wrote, "is that if Nellie loses, if he quits the Warriors to get in compliance, then we would have to pay the money owed. Would he rather quit and paid or work and not get paid?"

    Cuban said he didn't try to stop Nelson from taking the Golden State job last year because he didn't learn about the deal until after Nelson signed and, "I wasn't going to make a big deal."

    After Golden State lost to Utah in the second round, Nelson, 67, announced that he was not sure he would return for the second season of his three-year deal.

    In a report Wednesday, Nelson said he could decide after the completion of the Las Vegas Summer League on July 15. It's unknown if the Cuban issue will have any bearing on Nelson's decision process.

    Jeff Caplan, 817-390-7760
    [email protected]

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    Loser owner of a loser team.

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    So I guess we can sue them for our 2006 exit. What a putz. I officially have no respect for anybody in that organization. From top to bottom.

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    It appears to be far more complex than at first blush. It is probably just maneuvering for reasons of recouping some money from Nellie.

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    I'm calling bull on this story. I googled it and can't find a single reference to it. Plus it just sounds fake. Link please.
    I posted it in the NBA forum:

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72758


    San Francisco Chronicle is reporting it. I hope it's not true, it would be a joke if it was.

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    After Golden State lost to Utah in the second round, Nelson, 67, announced that he was not sure he would return for the second season of his three-year deal.
    In a report Wednesday, Nelson said he could decide after the completion of the Las Vegas Summer League on July 15. [/email]

    While Cuban is a POS in his own right, I think the bull Nellie is pulling isn't a of alot better. It ticks me off when coaches (and players) play this silly game. Time and again they hold the organization hostage while they decide if they're going to jump ship or not (see Larry Brown). It's times like these that I (once again) thank Pop, RC, Peter Holt and the rest of the organization for having some class.

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    Cuban is a pansy, and this claim is just asinine.

    But from a legal perspective, I think Cuban loses this one because he clearly was aware that Nellie was taking a job that, in theory at least, violated this purported non-compete provision. Cuban technically had 2 years to bring an action for breach of contract, but I'm fairly certain that equity requires that he seek to enjoin violations of the non-compete clause as soon as reasonably possible. Waiting an entire basketball season in which it was readily-apparent to Cuban that Nellie was (in Cuban's estimation, anyway) in violation of the provision will, I think, ultimately preclude Cuban from prevailing on this ridiculous claim.

    Mark Cuban gives s a bad name.

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    The only thing possible you can say in Cuban's defense is that this is Nellie's lawyer's version of events. It's possible that his counter-claims are merely that Nellie broke a no-compete clause in his consulting contract and Nellie is spinning the "confidential info" "trade secrets" thing to make Cuban look bad. If it's true, Cuban is the biggest sore loser around.

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    I'm still a bit befuddled by this. If he was gonna call-out a "non-compliance" clause, wouldn't the proper time have been last off-season?

    This just smacks of sour grapes.

    I will give him props though, he is pretty up-front why he's doing it. It's all about the money. Wonder how those new business ventures of his are panning?

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    I'm still a bit befuddled by this. If he was gonna call-out a "non-compliance" clause, wouldn't the proper time have been last off-season?

    This just smacks of sour grapes.

    I will give him props though, he is pretty up-front why he's doing it. It's all about the money. Wonder how those new business ventures of his are panning?
    IF Nellie's lawyer isn't just spinning and is actually telling the truth about Cuban's counter-claims to the lawsuit. The non-compliance thing might just be manuevering for a more favorable settlement of Nellie's claims against the Mavericks. It's the "insider info", "trade secrets," "confidential info" stuff that makes Cuban a huge if true.

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    And people wonder why Cuban is hated

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    And people wonder why Cuban is hated
    um..not really

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