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Your point?
I hope your right.If the Spurs can get Nocioni, it becomes the 07/08 plan.
It just doesn't jive with the way they are setting everything up though.
Having ALOT of cap room for next summer.
I refuse to get my hopes up for a thousandth summer in a row.
Your point?
why are bringing up age?
I'll take that bet. What's it going to be? Year's supply of cotton candy?
This is such an urban legend. The Spurs won't have a ton of cap room next summer anyway.
About BYC :
Nocioni last year salary was $3.95M.
If Nocioni first year salary is below $4.74M, Nocioni won't be a BYC player.
If Nocioni first year salary is between $4.74M and $7.9M, Nocioni will be BYC and his BYC value will be $3.95M.
If Nocioni first year salary is above $7.9M, Nocioni will be BYC and his BYC value will the half of the first year salary.
The rule in a trade for teams above the cap is that outgoing salaries can't be higher than 125%+$100K of incoming salaries.
To check if a trade is legit you compute outgoing and incoming salaries for each team and you see if the rule is respected for each team.
When a BYC player is traded from team A to team B, his value in team A outgoing salaries is his BYC value but his value in team B incoming salaries is the first year salary of his new contract.
If Nocioni deal start at $8M, his BYC value will be $4M. Bulls can't absorb more than 125%+100k of $4M ($5.1M) and Spurs should send at least $6.4M to take Nocioni $8M salary. A trade is impossible.
A way to solve this is to add players. If you add Duhon who has a $3.2M salary to the trade, Bulls can absorb 125%+100k of $7.2M ($9.1M) and Spurs must send more than $8.9M to absorb Nocioni and Duhon Salaries ($11.2M). A trade is possible if Spurs send $9M in salaries to Bulls.
For Nocioni, it won't be a big problem because the starting salary of hsi new contract shouldn't be too far from his last year salary.
Exactly, if the Spurs resign Oberto & sign a FA or 2 with the MLE, and/or S&T for another player, there wont be much if any cap room left.
I was on the Nocioni bandwagon getting him to SA since I learned he was a FA this summer.
Hes the big SF that ya need vs Lebron, vs carmello, and can play the PF in small ball too.
Nocioni makes so much sense its sickening.
So that means, the Spurs wont get him.
the 08 plan isn't set in stone.
don't forget the Spurs offered Przybilla close to 5-6 million a year for 4 years.
Only after getting turned down did they go with the 08 friendly contracts of Elson and Butler.
Umm, about the amount of money that he wants in his supposed new contract, is 6-7 mil a starting salary number of his 1st yr in the contract or the average of its sum ?
the 08 plan isn't set in stone.
don't forget the Spurs offered Przybilla close to 5-6 million a year for 4 years.
Only after getting turned down did they go with the 08 friendly contracts of Elson and Butler.
I hope your right.
I hope the Spurs are interested.
I just don't think they are.
Let's not get carried away. What makes Nocioni worth than many players? His stats aren't overwhelming.
If he's that good, wouldn't he be playing first team instead of on the bench?
Well, he's not better than Luol Deng i suppose, and Skiles doesn't want to implement small ball lineup as his starting 5.
watch the game and not the stats.Let's not get carried away. What makes Nocioni worth than many players? His stats aren't overwhelming.
If he's that good, wouldn't he be playing first team instead of on the bench
He doesnt mean ALL of those players. A combo of ANY OF THOSE players.
What exactly makes you think that the Spurs are not interested?
The chances of the Spurs landing Nocioni are about as good as the Mavs landing jermaine o neal for JET and Damp.
And you are?
Ken Loomis
Because they are the Spurs, and are on some sort of money cap saving plan.What exactly makes you think that the Spurs are not interested?
Ken Loomis
Are you some insider or something?
Hes a troll, ignore him.
Gotcha.
Go eat a jelly donut.
Insider for TCU RTVF courses.
I would do this in a less than a heartbeat. We would be losing very little and be gaining a great contributor that can play and help immediately. Let me be GM for the day and I would do it if the Bulls agree.... give 'em Beno too....not sure why he was not included in this thread anyways.Luis Scola, Melvin Ely (sign and trade), Brent Barry (for salary matching purposes) and a picks (Spurs and Raptors 2008 second rounders?) for Andres Nocioni?
Make it happen.
yeah throw in Beno.
Im sure the Spurs wouldn't do that cause then they would be losing too many "Ball handlers"
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