VY and Leinart fans.......

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I remember the Colts were pretty bad his rookie year. I remembered him being mediocre -- 3800 yards passing, 57% completion rate, he just threw a ton of picks. I guess my point is that he showed enough as a rookie that you knew he was going to be fine. Same with Vince. I doubt he'll be as good as Manning, but he's going to have a good career.

He's definitely not going to be as good of a passer, but he is already more clutch than Manning will ever be.

I don't care that he has a ring now... other than ONE half of football (in the NE game), he has done nothing to show me that he is truly a clutch QB, or a good pressure playoff performer.

[Findog]

He's definitely not going to be as good of a passer, but he is already more clutch than Manning will ever be.

I don't care that he has a ring now... other than ONE half of football (in the NE game), he has done nothing to show me that he is truly a clutch QB, or a good pressure playoff performer.

That's all you need to win a Super Bowl, since the Bears were a formality. The first one is always the hardest. I put them on equal footing with NW now.

[J.T.]

I thought he went to UT, but I might've been mistaken there.

You didn't know that any true Aggie fan melts like the wicked witch if they ever say "UT" right?

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That's all you need to win a Super Bowl, since the Bears were a formality. The first one is always the hardest. I put them on equal footing with NW now.

I don't think Manning is going to be having anymore choke jobs. But I don't think he is going to be clutch and handle pressure the way Brady and Young does. He is just naturally a more easily rattled person.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

He is a mobile dude that throws the football as well as a 10 year old . He wins games with his feet but so did Vick and Randall Cunningham. Neither one of them ers have a ring or are great. VY is on the same path.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


And did someone bring YPC into a QB discussion?

[OldDirtMcGirt]

Leinart's RB > Young's RB

Leinart's WR's >>>>> Young's WR'S

Leinart's Defense = Young's defense

Leinart's Record < Young's Record

Young >>> Leinart

Young's O-line>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leinart's O-line

And Young had a vastly superior running game to help him out last year, not to mention a defense that basically won him a few games. Plus a kicker who can make freak 60 yards to win games, whereas Leinart's kicker choked on two game winning field goals. Nice to see Matt bounce back with a very good game this week too.

Oh, and Peyton Manning has more clutch ability in his pinky two than Vince does in his entire body. Call me when VY gets a playoff berth let alone leads one of the most prolific playoff comebacks in NFL history en route to a superbowl.

[johnsmith]

Young's O-line>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leinart's O-line

And Young had a vastly superior running game to help him out last year, not to mention a defense that basically won him a few games. Plus a kicker who can make freak 60 yards to win games, whereas Leinart's kicker choked on two game winning field goals. Nice to see Matt bounce back with a very good game this week too.

Oh, and Peyton Manning has more clutch ability in his pinky two than Vince does in his entire body. Call me when VY gets a playoff berth let alone leads one of the most prolific playoff comebacks in NFL history en route to a superbowl.

[Whisky Dog]

Young's O-line>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leinart's O-line

And Young had a vastly superior running game to help him out last year, not to mention a defense that basically won him a few games. Plus a kicker who can make freak 60 yards to win games, whereas Leinart's kicker choked on two game winning field goals. Nice to see Matt bounce back with a very good game this week too.

Oh, and Peyton Manning has more clutch ability in his pinky two than Vince does in his entire body. Call me when VY gets a playoff berth let alone leads one of the most prolific playoff comebacks in NFL history en route to a superbowl.

Just wait a couple of years.

[peewee's lovechild]

Call me when VY gets a playoff berth let alone leads one of the most prolific playoff comebacks in NFL history en route to a superbowl.

He's supposed to take a VERY young team to the playoffs in 15 starts???

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Just wait a couple of years.

Exactly the point.

[midgetonadonkey]

He's supposed to take a VERY young team to the playoffs in 15 starts???

If he is as great as everyone says, then yes.

[Findog]

Oh, and Peyton Manning has more clutch ability in his pinky two than Vince does in his entire body. Call me when VY gets a playoff berth let alone leads one of the most prolific playoff comebacks in NFL history en route to a superbowl.

You gotta be kidding me. I always thought the not-clutch label as applied to Peyton was a little unfair, but VY has more than earned that le. I'll call you next week after Vince Young gets his 16th NFL start. Manning's only a 9-year vet.

[monosylab1k]

Oh, and Peyton Manning has more clutch ability in his pinky two than Vince does in his entire body.

[midgetonadonkey]

You gotta be kidding me. I always thought the not-clutch label as applied to Peyton was a little unfair, but VY has more than earned that le. I'll call you next week after Vince Young gets his 16th NFL start. Manning's only a 9-year vet.

Even Joey Harrington has 16 career starts. What does that matter?

[Whisky Dog]

I know he "choaddd bloaaaaded I saidddddddd" the greatest college football team of all time, but let the guy get some NFL experience and a decent team built around him before expecting him to win a SB. If you put Manning as the QB on the ans that fool would be constantly red in the face being chased around by blitzers, laying flat on his ass, and pointing and gyrating at his receivers for being ty and dropping 3rd and 4 passes. Give VY the kind of protection Manning gets along with Harrison, Wayne, and Dallas Clark and the entire NFL's CHOADDDDDDD would explode witnessing that kind of greatness.

[monosylab1k]

VY has accomplished more and been about 1000000000000000x more clutch than Peyton Manning had in the same amount of time.

Plus, in college Manning was a choking too. All VY did was take down one of the greatest juggernauts in college football history.

[monosylab1k]

I know he "choaddd bloaaaaded I saidddddddd" the greatest college football team of all time, but let the guy get some NFL experience and a decent team built around him before expecting him to win a SB. If you put Manning as the QB on the ans that fool would be constantly red in the face being chased around by blitzers, laying flat on his ass, and pointing and gyrating at his receivers for being ty and dropping 3rd and 4 passes. Give VY the kind of protection Manning gets along with Harrison, Wayne, and Dallas Clark and the entire NFL's CHOADDDDDDD would explode witnessing that kind of greatness.

[Whisky Dog]

VY's clutchness in the 2005 season alone eclipses Manning's entire career of clutch.

Manning is the Troy Aikman of the 21st Century - give him a great offensive scheme with the best O Line and receivers in football and he'll get wins. Aikman's numbers weren't as great because those teams could line up and run the ball up your ass constantly where Manning's system is more pass oriented, but either one of them on this year's ans would suck horribly.

[Whisky Dog]

I've said it once and I'll say it again - Peyton Manning is all Dungy.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I guess people forget that Manning led the Colts to a 13-3 record, had six 4th Q comebacks and led the team on a 11 game W streak in his 2nd year.

We'll see if VY can accomplish more....

[monosylab1k]

I guess people forget that Manning led the Colts to a 13-3 record, had six 4th Q comebacks and led the team on a 11 game W streak in his 2nd year.

We'll see if VY can accomplish more....

Give him Faulk & Harrison and he'd have no problem.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Faulk was a Ram in 1999.

[Whisky Dog]

I guess people forget that Manning led the Colts to a 13-3 record, had six 4th Q comebacks and led the team on a 11 game W streak in his 2nd year.

We'll see if VY can accomplish more....

He has half the team so if he accomplishes half as much it'll be even. Manning dug himself into the crater of clutch craters for the extreme amount of anti-clutchness emulating from his pores while he was in Tenn. He entered the NFL so far down in the anti-clutchness hole that he's just now starting to climb his goofy ass out.

VY achieved clutchness that hadn't been witnessed my mankind since Doolittle's men nutted up and dropped bombs over Tokyo. Manning's so far back in clutchness that Vince would need the Hubble telescope to find his ass.

[midgetonadonkey]

Give him Faulk & Harrison and he'd have no problem.

He still would. He can't throw more than 30 yards down field.

[monosylab1k]

Faulk was a Ram in 1999.

Edgerrin James then. big whoop.