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[violentkitten]

why do you people argue? its not like youre accomplishing anything

[whottt]

You know what? I think they all will be fine.

Don't know how long you have been following this argument but I have complained about Beno getting yanked also, he got yanked in Detroit..he got yanked against Houston...both we season lows in minutes played for him and both games we either lost or blew a second hald lead and faltered down the stretch.


He's just not getting it as badly as Barry is so I am complaining about Barry more...but he has been getting yanked...and so has Horry...and I have complained about it...it'd be one thing if we were still blowing out these teams when it happened...but we aren't...we are barely winning or losing these games...and I hold Pop responsible for this. And I've seen this happening for years on Spurs teams.

There is absolutely no justification for the way he managed the Houston game as the second night of a back to back...and his subs utions were what lost that game and what almost lost the Detroit game.

[ChumpDumper]

why do you people argue? its not like youre accomplishing anything

Coming from the acme of productive posters....

[ChumpDumper]

I hold Pop responsible for this

er needs to injure more opponents. Only Cato was out last game and we barely won!

[violentkitten]

you worry about being productive? its the got dam internets

[ChumpDumper]

you worry about being productive?

No actually, you're the one worried about accomplishing something.

[Slo spurs fan]

O.K. But who do you think would draft Beno if Spurs didn't had Pop?

[violentkitten]

not worried unlike yourself

[whottt]

Of course it's true.

Beno produces good play in the first half.

Barry produces meaningless play in the first half.

Given the choice, who would you give minutes in the second half?

If you choose Barry, you only go by reputation.

When we are blowing a big lead or making stupid TO's I'd go with Barry.

See that's what you guys don't get...I've ed about Beno getting yanked, I've ed about Horry getting yanked as well.

After the Houston loss I made a thread and called out Pop for the way he used all three of them.

All three of the barely played in the second half.

Beno got yanked just like Barry against Detroit and Houston...and it hurt our team.

The reason you seem to think I am only ing about Barry is because he is the one getting the most criticism and being discussed the most...he also the one getting yanked the most(although Horry is starting to get it also) .

I just don't have your either or mindset, I don't have your..."if I like this player then I have to think this player sucks" outlook.

It shouldn't be too hard to realize this...it wasn't that long ago I was defending Malik against you.

[violentkitten]

fuk yeah man you tell em

[whottt]

er needs to injure more opponents. Only Cato was out last game and we barely won!

I hate to tell you thiis...but Orlando hasn't won a road game against a team with a winning record all season...they are under 500%, and they average giving up nearly 110 points on the road.

Yet you guys act like we just bumped off the Lakers in the playoffs over this win.

See you don't get the duplicity in your own statements...

On the one hand you say the Spurs aren't as good as people think...

Yet then you turn around and defend everything Pop is doing...

So you tell me...just why aren't the Spurs as good as you think?

Let me guess...now that we are losing more games and struggling more on offense in the second half..you think we are playing better right?

[whottt]

O.K. But who do you think would draft Beno if Spurs didn't had Pop?

Your first name isn't Taruky is it?


Been there done this.

[whottt]

fuk yeah man you tell em

MB STFU.

[ChumpDumper]

When we are blowing a big lead or making stupid TO's I'd go with Barry.

Gee, we went with Beno last time and won. You are going by rep.

I just don't have your either or mindset, I don't have your..."if I like this player then I have to think this player sucks" outlook.

That's complete bull -- all you do is rag on players who aren't the ones you think should be out there. and if Barry is playing sucky, I'll say it. You can't even admit it when he does play badly and want to give him minutes based solely on reputation.

it wasn't that long ago I was defending Malik against you.

What was there to defend. I said play him or trade him. The only way he was going to play was to not suck like last year. Guess what -- he's not playing like last year so he's playing so he doesn't need to be traded. Forgive me for letting him earn his place in the rotation, and forgive me for wanting Barry to be able to do the same.

[violentkitten]

FU CKYOU.

[whottt]

Gee, we went with Beno last time and won. You are going by rep.

Barely.

That's complete bull -- all you do is rag on players who aren't the ones you think should be out there.

Like who?


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and if Barry is playing sucky, I'll say it.

No, if Pop benches them you'll say it...and when he unbenches them you won't.

I argue with you so much because you do nothing more than defend Pop. This is the closest I can get to arguing with him.

You can't even admit it when he does play badly and want to give him minutes based solely on reputation.

He's shooting badly...I defended Manu last season when he was shooting badly as well...

Why? Because he does other things. And don't act like he was playing this badly before Pop started yanking him.

What was there to defend. I said play him or trade him. The only way he was going to play was to not suck like last year.

That's just it...he didn't suck that bad last year...he had 20-20 game against the Mavs when Duncan was out...

And at the end of the season we went 5-3 or something when Duncan was injured again...all with him starting.

He didn't play that badly...and had he gotten minutes more consistently he would have played even better...and it would have been nice to have him as an option in the Laker series.

Guess what -- he's not playing like last year so he's playing so he doesn't need to be traded. Forgive me for letting him earn his place in the rotation, and forgive me for wanting Barry to be able to do the same.

It hurt the team when they beneched Malik last season...and it's hurting the team when guys like Horry and Barry are getting virtually no PT now.

You act like I am Brent Barry's biggest fan or something...I wanted Jack...I just can see the dude is being misused and it is hurting the team. All because Pop wants to play D more than be the best team the Spurs can be on both sides of the ball.

[ChumpDumper]

Barely.

You mean "Barry"

Why? Because he does other things.

Other things that Beno is doing better now. And he can shoot and isn't afraid to.

had he gotten minutes more consistently he would have played even better.

Why so you act like that is a fact? It isn't.

It hurt the team when they beneched Malik last season.

Malik played like an idiot last year -- he is doing much less of it now, but I still say when he does (Philly is a prime example).

You act like I am Brent Barry's biggest fan or something

Actually, YOU act you are his biggest fan.

You can't tell me that having Barry on the floor would've been a better idea than Beno last game, and you sure as can say that playing both at the same time woud've been a good idea. Only three guards can play at a time. Period. If Barry wants to be one -- he needs to play better. Why act like he can't?

[violentkitten]

whoa the action is intense

[violentkitten]

they are so cute when they fight

[Jimcs50]

Beno is better now for sure, because he hit the 3 to put SA up 16 when I had Spurs -13.5 tonight for $50.

I love that guy even more now.