Udrih > Parker

[tlongII]

Sorry guys, but it's the truth! This really isn't about how bad Parker is, but rather how good Udrih is. I had no idea who this dude was before this year!

This kid can play. He is the type of point guard that I would like on my team as he gets the ball upcourt in a hurry by not holding on to it. He makes decisions quickly and gets the ball out of his hands and up the court. He sticks the open jumper too. It basically sickens me that the Spurs would find a guy like this, but what the .

[texbumTHElife]

Being able to come off the bench and being a spark for the team is much different than being the starting point guard and having to perform well in big minutes night in and night out. I used to really get down on parker because he was so inconsistent and got stupid fouls.

This year however to this point has been different for some reason. I can actually see the progression in Tony parker this season. He looks much more fluid and confident. I have seen far fewer of the stupid pouty fouls and he has been more agressive on both defense and offense.

The only thing I would like to see more of this season so far is for him to be even more agressive on offense. Take the open shots more often and put the ball up around the rim more often. He looks a little bit like Steve Nash did last year. He gets down in the lane and circles around but never put the ball up. I know he is a midget among the trees but thats why we have Duncan down there to clean up.

Anyway the point of all this is that as well as Udrih has looked at times I still think he is best served as a roll player while TP is close to breaking into super star status.

[ducks]

remind me on what speedy is doing as a starter?

[texbumTHElife]

Speedy Claxton: 12ppg 5apg 1spg while starting 19/21 games.

[Solid D]

As mentioned in another thread, Beno and Parker are two entirely different guards. They each have their pluses and minuses. Parker is a jet and a playmaker with a 2-guard mentality. Beno is a true PG with a smooth stroke who needs help keeping up with and defending quicker opposing ball-handlers.

[Rick Von Braun]

It is very nice to have both TP and Beno. No need to pick one over the other one.

As I said in another thread... if these two continue progressing, the Spurs will compete with Sacramento for the best pair of PGs in the league. Our guys are younger and will probably get better.

Good Times

[texbumTHElife]

If only parker was 3-4 inches taller....

[violentkitten]

48 minutes of quality point guard play a night. Negele who?

[Nikos]

It is very nice to have both TP and Beno. No need to pick one over the other one.

As I said in another thread... if these two continue progressing, the Spurs will compete with Sacramento for the best pair of PGs in the league. Our guys are younger and will probably get better.

Good Times

Well the difference is Beno will have a hard time getting 20mpg+ like Bobby Jackson does because Sacto has a three man rotation at the 1-2 spots, much like the Spurs three man (er 4) rotation at the 2-3 spots.

But yes, great overall potential PG play is very good.

[BigVee]

As mentioned in another thread, Beno and Parker are two entirely different guards. They each have their pluses and minuses. Parker is a jet and a playmaker with a 2-guard mentality. Beno is a true PG with a smooth stroke who needs help keeping up with and defending quicker opposing ball-handlers.

Exactly right. Great to have them both.

[boutons]

I was surprised and glad that Pop let Beno close out the 4th, in fact play the entire 4th, as Tony apparently was physically able and having a good game. Beno deserved it, and he needs experience doing it, for when Tony is hurt or having an horrible game.

[exstatic]

Pop left in the lineup that got them back into the game, period. Both guards have their strengths and their weaknesses. Tony is a jet that no one can stay in front of, one of the fastest guards in the league down the court with his dribble, and an ultra quick defender. Beno threads the needle with passes in the halfcourt, and is a monster shooter. I think the most important line is

48 mins 8-20FG 4-73G 2-2FT 8reb 10ast 21pts

That's the combined PG line from last nights game.

[boutons]

"48 mins 8-20FG 4-73G 2-2FT 8reb 10ast 21pts

That's the combined PG line from last nights game"

Looks like an uncombined PG line for Steve Nash.

The PG matchups on 28 Dec will be fascinating: Tony/Beno vs Steve/Leandro

[T Park]

as Tony apparently was physically able

Coach Bud said the groin tightened up a little, so they wanted to be precautious on the injury.

[wildbill2u]

They bring such different skills to the game it's hard to decide which one will have the edge when Beno is a veteran.

With Parker you give up outside shooting (face it, he's never gonna be consistent and apparently won't develop a pull-up jumper off the drive) for speed.

With Beno, you give up speed on defense for BB IQ, passing and some outside shooting ability.

When both are matured, we won't have the luxury of keeping them because both will be starter material.

IMHO

[Jimcs50]

Nice problem to have.

I think Beno is much more fun to watch, and I do not yell "Nooooooooo" at the tv when he shoots a 3 pt shot either.

[Jimcs50]

Beno and Brown could win almost any 2 on 2 game in the NBA.

[boutons]

Enjoy him while we can. Like Speedy, Beno will get offered a starter's job/big contract somewhere else in a couple years. Fair enough, Spurs get a couple of years of excellent PG depth, and Beno learns the NBA ropes in the cleanest, winningest, family-est NBA franchise, and maybe wins a ring or two.

[Jimcs50]

Enjoy him while we can. Like Speedy, Beno will get offered a starter's job/big contract somewhere else in a couple years. Fair enough, Spurs get a couple of years of excellent PG depth, and Beno learns the NBA ropes in the cleanest, winningest, family-est NBA franchise, and maybe wins a ring or two.

, if Beno keeps getting better like I think he will, I say trade TP in two yrs, when we can still get something good for him.

[TheWriter]

Enjoy him while we can. Like Speedy, Beno will get offered a starter's job/big contract somewhere else in a couple years. Fair enough, Spurs get a couple of years of excellent PG depth, and Beno learns the NBA ropes in the cleanest, winningest, family-est NBA franchise, and maybe wins a ring or two.

Um... his rookie contract doesn't end for another four seasons including this one.

We have him for longer than a "couple" of years. And you're right, he is going to leave, just like David was and Tim and Manu.

[Manu20]

Beno has impressed me a lot I honestly did not think that he was this good. He runs the offense good and he is great shooter the only things he needs to improve is his defense.

[boutons]

"David was and Tim and Manu."

... were starters. Beno, and Speedy, backups.

Teams will want Beno in trades before his 4-year contract is up, and Beno will want to start.

[IceColdBrewski]

, if Beno keeps getting better like I think he will, I say trade TP in two yrs, when we can still get something good for him.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner.

[T Park]

haha,

yes, because, Tony Parker wont improve either in two years, right?

[Jimcs50]

haha,

yes, because, Tony Parker wont improve either in two years, right?

um, no. You should be at your peak by your 4th-5th year.