Mitt Romney's Faith Speech

[Nbadan]

Square peg, meet round hole...

..and one you folks in Iowa, New Hampshire and beyond can expect to see and hear more about in TV ads, mail pieces and emails very, very soon.

National Review, the flagship journal of the conservative movement*, has decided to get behind Romney.

The whole piece is worth reading, but in short it came down to Romney's fulfilling NR's two main criteria: they believe he's "the most conservative viable canddiate."

The full endorsement isn't entirely glowing, as the editors acknowlege some of his shortcomings. But there is an important and robust defense therein that could not come at a better, more critical time for Team Mitt.

Politico

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Look at that chin! Look at his whiteness! His ability to entice the christian right!

That man was born to be MY president!

[JoeChalupa]

Mormon or not, I do have to admit that Romney is one presidential looking mofo. That grey hair is classic.

[boutons_]

Yep, Willard has that generic look of a president from central casting, sorta like the prez in the ty movie Independence Day.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Mormon or not, I do have to admit that Romney is one presidential looking mofo. That grey hair is classic.

The fact that he looks presidential in itself does not offend me, but the fact that during the "Dark horse" phase of his campaign THATS ALL THE ING NEOCONS MENTIONED ABOUT THIS ER, on paper AND tv pisses me off to no end (however it makes sense, grab the stupidest of the cons uency first)

Back when the common marriott did not know who the this guy was, we were introduced to him not by his standings, voting records, values, etc, but by:

"Look how presidential he looks" "Look at that chin" "Look how he's perfectly aged and white he is"

It's complete and utter bull .

Now he's actually trying to pull the, "Well my professed faith doesn't allow non-adherents inside its temples, but I'm also religious, therefore I'm a good candidate and the christian right should like me even though I flipflopped on abortion" (makes sense, trying to grab the next level of stupid, after his pretty face is already imprinted on their minds)
GMAFB
Its all so predictable....and the neocons who are stupid enough to be fooled by this guy should be strapped to a rocket and sent into the sun.

[jochhejaam]

In America, we're pretty certain that pretty much everybody goes to because we think in very black & white, yes-or-no, A-therefore-B-therefore-C linear terms,

Could you expound on your personal belief regarding that statement Stout?
To a high degree Matthew 7; 13-14 would seem to substantiate that reasoning, although "few make it", and "many don't make" sounds less extreme than your "pretty much everybody goes to ".

[JoeChalupa]

The fact that he looks presidential in itself does not offend me, but the fact that during the "Dark horse" phase of his campaign THATS ALL THE ING NEOCONS MENTIONED ABOUT THIS ER, on paper AND tv pisses me off to no end (however it makes sense, grab the stupidest of the cons uency first)

Back when the common marriott did not know who the this guy was, we were introduced to him not by his standings, voting records, values, etc, but by:

"Look how presidential he looks" "Look at that chin" "Look how he's perfectly aged and white he is"

It's complete and utter bull .

Now he's actually trying to pull the, "Well my professed faith doesn't allow non-adherents inside its temples, but I'm also religious, therefore I'm a good candidate and the christian right should like me even though I flipflopped on abortion" (makes sense, trying to grab the next level of stupid, after his pretty face is already imprinted on their minds)
GMAFB
Its all so predictable....and the neocons who are stupid enough to be fooled by this guy should be strapped to a rocket and sent into the sun.

Well, whether I like to admit it or not, in our era how one performs on TV or on the web does make a difference. Perhaps not much but it does effect people even if they do not know it. We all make perceptions of people, however slight, on how they appear to us.
Kukinich suffers from this, IMO. He simply doesn't look presidential.
Then again Bush can easily blow up my theory.
I'd vote for John McCain before any of the other republican candidates. I also get a feelign that Mitt Romney is a straight forward kind of man and I don't care what his religion is. He does impress me though but I still like McCain.

[Extra Stout]

Could you expound on your personal belief regarding that statement Stout?
To a high degree Matthew 7; 13-14 would seem to substantiate that reasoning, although "few make it", and "many don't make" sounds less extreme than your "pretty much everybody goes to ".

I don't know what happens to people who never hear the gospel. The Bible makes it clear that given the choice, few actually will choose true faith (as opposed to the cultural, nominal kind), and it exhorts believers to spread the gospel, but it never makes clear what happens to people who don't actually hear it.

You have your verse, and I have one in Romans that says people are held accountable for what they know.

One cannot say that it is an obvious or easy question, or else why would very smart people who are completely orthodox in their thinking have grappled with it for two millenia?

On the other hand, Calvinism has an easy answer: they go to . And not only do they go to , but God created them for the express purpose of sending them to , and made sure they never heard the gospel, because somehow that glorifies him.

And that fits very nicely into the American idiom of turning theology into an equation.

[jochhejaam]

You have your verse, and I have one in Romans that says people are held accountable for what they know.

Agreed, and I would assume that those that are held accountable for what they know are a segment of the “few” that are referred to in Matt.


(FWIW - I think it's safe to assume that the "few" refers to a small percentage, but when you consider that billions have lived since the beginning of creation, that "few" would still be quite a large crowd)