People Refuse To Like Beno Udrih (BasketballAwful Article)

[freemeat]

More! This is entertaining!

[timvp]

It's uncanny how Beno is currently playing like he did when he was a rookie ... just with more minutes. If you look at his per minute numbers, they are almost the same.

Points per 40 minutes: 16.5 (now) vs. 16.4 (rookie)
Assists per 40 minutes: 5.2 (now) vs. 5.2 (rookie)
True shooting percentage: 53.5% (now) vs. 54.9% (rookie)
Turnover rate: 11.6 (now) vs. 11.7 (rookie)
Usage rate: 19.8 (now) vs. 19.8 (rookie)

It's amazing how close those numbers are. I wouldn't say that Beno is playing better, he's actually playing as well as he used to per minute but for more minutes.

[m33p0]

Beno has played 35mpg for more than one month. He is clearly in a way better shape than before the training camp.

he never had the benefit of training camp and preseason. he was injured, remember? he's playing himself into shape.

i, for one, am glad that the rockets were all too happy to get francis to realize they still needed a true point guard that they overlooked beno (not that beno is that hard to overlook). otherwise, the scene in that part of texas would have been vastly different.

[Obstructed_View]

It looks like you wouldn't know what's my mission if I'd stamp it on your forehead.

You certainly aren't capable of being forthright or honest about it. I'm sure you'd deny it later.

[sendman]

You certainly aren't capable of being forthright or honest about it. I'm sure you'd deny it later.

Interesting. Attempt of using an inverse psychology on me. Nice try!

Dude, once and for all, read again the thread carefully. If you don't get it then you'll never get it and I can only die explaining it to you. Believe me, I don't intend to.

[sendman]

It's uncanny how Beno is currently playing like he did when he was a rookie ... just with more minutes. If you look at his per minute numbers, they are almost the same.

Points per 40 minutes: 16.5 (now) vs. 16.4 (rookie)
Assists per 40 minutes: 5.2 (now) vs. 5.2 (rookie)
True shooting percentage: 53.5% (now) vs. 54.9% (rookie)
Turnover rate: 11.6 (now) vs. 11.7 (rookie)
Usage rate: 19.8 (now) vs. 19.8 (rookie)

It's amazing how close those numbers are. I wouldn't say that Beno is playing better, he's actually playing as well as he used to per minute but for more minutes.

I would call this numbers an OK numbers. Thing that they are so similar to his rookie numbers makes them even more interesting. Question is, can Beno get better, or is this as good as it gets.
For a "true PG" as he is called, I don't like his numbers for APG and A/TO ratio.
If this is because missing a training camp and gelling with the rest of the new team, then they are acceptable for the moment.

[Bruno]

he never had the benefit of training camp and preseason. he was injured, remember? he's playing himself into shape.

Udrih wasn't injured before the training camp.
Udrih wasn't in a good shape when Spurs training camp had started and that was before his finger injury.
Heavy playing time does wonders for players who have difficulties to be in great shape.

[Kibic]

Udrih wasn't injured before the training camp.
Udrih wasn't in a good shape when Spurs training camp had started and that was before his finger injury.
Heavy playing time does wonders for players who have difficulties to be in great shape.

How would you know he wasn't in good shape when Spurs camp started?

[Bruno]

How would you know he wasn't in good shape when Spurs camp started?

Spurs took pictures of him at the media session jsut before the training camp and Beno was "fat".

[Kibic]

Can we see those pictures?

[Bruno]

Can we see those pictures?

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Se...8HvsDTggAEAAA.

[Ya Vez]

Sacramento Kings 11 wins - 15 losses

your doing a heck of job there Beno..

[wildbill2u]

Spurs took pictures of him at the media session jsut before the training camp and Beno was "fat".

I went to your link and he didn't look 'fat' to me just because he had his shirt-tail out.

I don't know if he was in shape or not. I think you'd have to have some confirmation from a player or coach.

[Fillmoe]

who said beno wont produce off of the bench?

today off the bench he went 5-5, 2-2 from 3, 2-2 from the ft line, 14 points 3 assists, 2 rebs, 1 to.... in 17 mins!

[TDMVPDPOY]

beno contract year

[Texas_Ranger]

I just hope he can make those numbers night after night.

[SAGambler]

Why are we still talking about this guy?Oh, that's right - his delusional rationalizations for sucking are always entertaining.

Because he could be here putting up 8 or so a game, be a three point threat, and make sharp passes (remember when Pop said Beno was the best passer on the team)..None of these things can we ever expect out of our now backup point.. About the best thing that can be said of Vaughn is he hustles and "holds court (sometime)" during his 10 minutes on the floor.

Face it, Pop screwed the pooch on this one.

[ploto]

who said beno wont produce off of the bench?

today off the bench he went 5-5, 2-2 from 3, 2-2 from the ft line, 14 points 3 assists, 2 rebs, 1 to.... in 17 mins!

Beno played a nice game last night. Occasionally, they use Beno and Bibby together. He would have played more minutes but it was a blow out and Douby got to play some.

I am curious to see how Sacramento can play with most of their players finally back-- Artest, Bibby, Martin...

Sacramento Kings 11 wins - 15 losses

your doing a heck of job there Beno..

You realize they were without 3 starters for much of that time.

[wildbill2u]

Well, the best that can be said of our backup point guard Vaughn, according to TIMVP's analysis each game, is that it's best when he doesn't appear in the stats at all.

Now that's a quality backup!

[T Park]

Wildbill


dont understand basketball too well do ya.

[ChumpDumper]

Beno = championship

His myspace said so.

[sendman]

Wildbill


dont understand basketball too well do ya.

Look who's talking!

The guy that was so full of **it, that it had to be surgically removed.

[T Park]

ah personally insulting me to defend Beno now?

Beno would be proud.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I really hope the Kings move Bibby for my fantasy team's sake.

Beno only had 16 minutes today and did NOTHING. For good or ill, he is a guy, just like Oberto, and Boris Diaw, and name some more, who need 24+ minutes to be effective at all. I have a feeling that going back to reserve PG, he will play himself into a hole and disappear again.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Because he could be here putting up 8 or so a game, be a three point threat, and make sharp passes (remember when Pop said Beno was the best passer on the team)..None of these things can we ever expect out of our now backup point.. About the best thing that can be said of Vaughn is he hustles and "holds court (sometime)" during his 10 minutes on the floor.

Face it, Pop screwed the pooch on this one.

That's such bull . Beno had chance after chance to succeed in SA and he didn't get there - you can't blame Pop for that! He was out of shape, always injured, and dissed the team in interviews. He needed a change, and MINUTES, to perform. If he goes back to being a 10 minute player at Sacto watch him suck so badly he'll play his way out of the rotation.

As for JV, his D is great, at times his energy sparks the team, he doesn't turn the ball over, and seems to hit the open jumpers when we need them. As Tony's backup, I'm just fine with that. Manu basically runs the second team anyway, and I think we'll see more Manu-Barry-Udoka from now on as all three of them can score.