Most of the Spurs fans in this thread said Kobe was a better player than Manu. So we ALL have an inferiority complex...even those who agreed with you that Kobe was a better player?
Most of us don't give a who the team is perceived...we just want them to continue to be successful.
I like being ignored. Just makes most analysts and most fans who overlook them look like they know nothing about basketball when the time comes for them to host the trophy.
And manus basically a third option in my eyes, tp handles the ball most the time so i see him as the 2nd, and timmy is always what the offense should run through since he creates shots for others.
what manu would do on a bad team is anyones guess, but he'd most likely shine.
LOL I'm from Atlanta....
The majority by and large seem to think that Manu is on Kobe's level because he's had a good month and a half of basketball this season.
This is an interesting post.Spurs Fans!!!!!!!
Gotta love them! Can't wait till they get their asses back to the Cave they crawled out of after 1999.
Small Market Ignorance is a !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would disagree.
I honestly think that most Spurs fans care only about their team and don't give two s about Kobe or anyone else. No crime in that. Most of the people in this thread have said Kobe is the better player. If you are basing your opinion of "most Spurs fans" on this thread, I think you would be wrong. Besides, there is no way you could accurately most because you would have to know exactly how many Spurs fans there are and then determine a majority. Therefore you have an opinion, not a fact.
You definitely have an inferiority complex because you are definitely inferior.
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Ok, that was funny.
Seriously, why are lakerfans redassing about Manu's having a good run?
Enjoy your team.
Somewhere else.
I have often wondered that.
If the Spurs and their fans suck so bad, why hang out here? Unless people are just here to troll then they should turn off the computer and do their homework.
you definitively should have heard Jim Rome yesterday... Kobe has 3 rings here great... so does Manu... what about Olympic gold, Euroleagues, etc? is that good month or a HOF carrer? stfu would u?
Personally I don't care who is better individually. Its all about the team.
Bottom line is this...the only thing that matters is winning the trophy. Manu is all about that and I really believe Kobe is about that. If any fan or player is about anything else but winning a le, then they aren't worth a .
I think the most humorous thing about this thread is that the Spurs are probably the only team in the NBA right now who's SECOND best player gets threads on this site comparing him to an MVP candidate, with very little mention of our best, most dominant player. How many other teams could say, "Yeah, our 6th guy off the bench? He's as good as Kobe when he's on fire."? Simply awesome.
Yes because all Spurs fans think alike.
Now that, I will agree with.
So? Why do you care this much about what fans of a small market team think?
Lakers fans, it's not a good month. What a coincidence...if you take a look at Manu's stats in the streches where Parker is out due to an injury in all the years in the past you'll see how his numbers go up. Coincidence?
The guy wants to win, and does not care to score or be the star. If his shot is not falling he'll give it up to someone else. That's why he doesn't average 20 ppg in his carreer.
Kobe is more talented in my opinion, but for me Manu is at the same level than any other player/superstar in this league: he can score, rebound, guard, be clutch, can do it all and it's not just this month or year. He hasn't really improved anything in his game he's just been having the freedom to take more shots.
I hate when people bring up that Manu is in the same team that Duncan. Tim sure is a great passer and player but didn't make the great player that Manu is, and had absolutely nothing to do with it. Manu can create his own shot with or without him. In fact in the streches where Manu score more points is usually without Duncan on the floor.
I honestly feel as a Spurs fan that only two other players are at Duncan's level as it stands: LeBron and Kobe.
They are the three players who single-handedly can destroy another team every single night they choose to. Duncan's near quad-double might not be seen again for a decade or more. He is simply unmatched in the NBA in the way he helps a team defensively. When he gets pissed and wants to go over someone, it's either foul him or hope he misses, because you cannot slow Duncan down.
LeBron and Kobe are the same way. They have outlandish athletic ability and a great nose for making plays. Kobe has even learned to pass this year, it seems.
There is a slight drop-off to the next list of players, namely those like Paul (who isn't on first-tier simply because he hasn't done it in the playoffs yet), Manu, and the like. Some players are less consistent and can ascend a rank or two (like Wade or T-Mac) than others. Manu can be truly dominating at times, when he is on or wants to be on.
Somehow though, I doubt Manu really cares that he will statistically be inferior to Kobe when all is said and done, as long as he has more rings and gold medals at the end. Kobe really wants to be considered up with Jordan as "the best ever", and while he wants to win too, he has a horrible beast to bear on his shoulders to stand among the greatest ever.
yall crazy Manu is great but swap players and the Spurs probably going for 5 (no way he fouls Dirk) and manu would have MAYBE won MAYBE 1 or 2 probably not 3 but he would be an ALL-star every year no doubt ...
Manu would sore a lot more minus Duncan or Parker but Duncan has made the life easier for both of them ..just like SHAQ did with Kobe (and Kobe for SHAQ)
Remember TIM won BEFORE they both got there ...
D&C had a pretty good run in terms of posting. You could say he was having a good month.
After this thread, he is posting at LG.net level. Again.
And the self-pwnedge was some serious .
Saying two or three times Manu will not make the HOF because of his NBA stats
Ignorance is bliss, or so they say.
Well he might have fouled Dirk but it probably wouldn't have been called.
Exactly that's how you can tell who the transcendent players really are. Change the cast of characters and they still win. Duncan is the only one on the Spurs that fits that mold IMHO. Shaq definitely fits that mold. I believe when all is said and done Kobe will fit that mold as well.
There are certainly leadership traits and qualities that Kobe doesn't have at this point that a guy like Duncan does. I think Kobe still has a ways to go in that regard, but he's headed the right way. The next 5 years will IMHO cement Kobe's legacy in this league as one of the best to ever lace em up.
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