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  1. #101
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    If DJ Augustin fell far enough, which is doubtful, he's another guy you'd have to take. A "future" pick rather than a "win now" but I see greatness in Augustin.

    But that's only if Avery is fired. No need to ruin a good Longhorn PG with a coach incapable of developing a PG.

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    Kevin Love has a lot of potential to be good in the NBA. He has very impressive fundamentals for a 19 year old and one of the best outlet passes I've ever seen from a center.

    Hansboro has no chance in the NBA. Slow, white, unathletic, going to get dominated by the pros just like JJ Red did when he came over.

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    I would LOVE to see Tyler Hansbrough vs. Dwight Howard one-on-one. Howard would win in a 7-0 skunk and get about 40 blocks.

  4. #104
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    Whatever happened to the Mavericks? This used to be a contender 2 years ago, pretty much with the same pieces you have now. To see you guys discuss what's the better pick in the lottery is just so strange. Not to mention that the only pick in recent years I can think of that took a team deep in the playoffs is Lebron. With Kidd and his window closing, the odds of the Mavs finding ready-now talent in the middle of the first round is very difficult at best.
    It's been argued ad-nauseam that Devin Harris was nothing special and Diop was no Duncan stopper. Coach is the same. So what happened?
    Is it Eddie Jones fault? I still don't understand how you can implode like that.

  5. #105
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    The team is soft and mentally weak. And it's not Dirk. It's Jet, Howard, Stack, the entire group around Dirk.

    The team was built up by Avery's "rah-rah" coaching but after failing miserably two years straight they gave up on Avery. I really don't think Avery is saying "hey let's not attack the basket, let's be unaggressive, let's jack up stupid jumpers, and let's try our best to play with no energy on defense".......the team is tuning him out, and while maybe that's partly Avery's fault, it's even more the fault of the team he's coaching for not even listening.

    The supporting cast around Dirk & Kidd has to be completely overhauled if they want a chance in this thing.

    I'm not even opposed to keeping Avery if they get rid of all the other dead weight on this team.

  6. #106
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    Whatever happened to the Mavericks? This used to be a contender 2 years ago, pretty much with the same pieces you have now. To see you guys discuss what's the better pick in the lottery is just so strange. Not to mention that the only pick in recent years I can think of that took a team deep in the playoffs is Lebron. With Kidd and his window closing, the odds of the Mavs finding ready-now talent in the middle of the first round is very difficult at best.
    It's been argued ad-nauseam that Devin Harris was nothing special and Diop was no Duncan stopper. Coach is the same. So what happened?
    Is it Eddie Jones fault? I still don't understand how you can implode like that.
    They're not far from being a contender now, as much of a mess it's been. They have 28 losses, New Orleans has 22 I believe. They're only 6 behind in the loss column from the best team in the conference. And I'd like to think that having Dirk for the Houston, Denver, Golden State and second half of the San Antonio games might've made a difference. This isn't a typical year in the West, so it's no shame to lose out and finish ninth when your best player wasn't available for the stretch run. And no, LeBron is not going to be available at the 14th pick, but a guy who can join the rotation at a rookie contract should be. That's probably a blessing in the long run.

    Long story short, the team has begun to tune Avery out, and some guys like Terry and Stack have begun to decline and aren't very useful anymore. They have a chance to retool this thing and be right back in the middle of things next year, but it's going to be a very pivotal summer. I just hope they don't sign a bunch of aging dinosaurs with nothing left like Juwan or Eddie Jones. Those guys gave us nothing this year.

  7. #107
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    The team is soft and mentally weak. And it's not Dirk. It's Jet, Howard, Stack, the entire group around Dirk.

    The team was built up by Avery's "rah-rah" coaching but after failing miserably two years straight they gave up on Avery. I really don't think Avery is saying "hey let's not attack the basket, let's be unaggressive, let's jack up stupid jumpers, and let's try our best to play with no energy on defense".......the team is tuning him out, and while maybe that's partly Avery's fault, it's even more the fault of the team he's coaching for not even listening.

    The supporting cast around Dirk & Kidd has to be completely overhauled if they want a chance in this thing.

    I'm not even opposed to keeping Avery if they get rid of all the other dead weight on this team.
    I'm not going to lay all of the blame at Avery's feet for this season's struggles, you have a bunch of mental midgets that don't listen to him anymore. On the other hand, Dampier gets 12 minutes last night. Why? It's a myth that he can't be effective against GS. He sure was effective earlier this year when we played them, and he's been even better at running the floor with Kidd. Kidd gets 27 minutes in a pivotal home game against the Lakers. Why? He sits out the final play against San Antonio. Why?

    Avery shouldn't have EVERYTHING put at his doorstep, but this team has underachieved, and he's made several dumbass moves, so I want to see him held accountable for what he's responsible for.

  8. #108
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    Avery shouldn't have EVERYTHING put at his doorstep, but this team has underachieved, and he's made several dumbass moves, so I want to see him held accountable for what he's responsible for.
    I'm definitely in agreement. I've been a pretty harsh critic of Avery for a while now. And I've even called for his firing and ordered myself a nice "Fire Avery" t-shirt.

    But I guess my big fear is that Cuban is going to fire Avery with no clue what his next move should be. I'd hope for Del Harris, but besides him, I don't know if there's a coach out there who can coach this team better than Avery. And I think there's a better chance of Avery learning from his mistakes and there's a better chance that his "rah-rah" style will catch on with a fresh group of guys, rather than hoping this same group of soft jump shooting pussies will change their ways with a new coach.

    So I'm all for firing Avery as long as Cuban has some sort of ace in the hole as far as a new coach goes. But if not, it would work a lot better to just get rid of the dead weight and let Avery preach to a new group of players.

  9. #109
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    Yeah, if you're calling for Avery's dismissal, then you also have to call for new personnel, because the blame for this season doesn't strictly fall at one end of the spectrum.

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    why does everyone want to dump howard?

    you think he's damaged goods?

    you think he can't be salvaged?

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    why does everyone want to dump howard?

    you think he's damaged goods?

    you think he can't be salvaged?
    1) He doesn't want to be here.

    2) He has a low basketball IQ.

    3) He rarely if ever plays a full 48 minutes or shows up after halftime.

    He should be a #3 guy on an elite team, not the #2 guy he is for us.

  12. #112
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    why does everyone want to dump howard?

    you think he's damaged goods?

    you think he can't be salvaged?
    You're satisfied with him going thru the motions every 2nd half of every game? That "I really don't give a " look he always has on his face, whether they're up by 3 or down by 25? The fact that, now that he's a well paid All-Star, he can't do dirty work like he used to?

    The guy's ego has inflated well beyond what his talent should allow, he only plays for half the game, and he looks like there's about 1000 other places he'd rather be than on the court with the Mavericks.

    Get rid of him.

  13. #113
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    1) He doesn't want to be here.

    2) He has a low basketball IQ.

    3) He rarely if ever plays a full 48 minutes or shows up after halftime.

    He should be a #3 guy on an elite team, not the #2 guy he is for us.
    he doesn't want to be a mav? can you expand on that? i live in cali, and i hadn't heard that.

  14. #114
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    he doesn't want to be a mav? can you expand on that? i live in cali, and i hadn't heard that.
    yeah i hadn't heard him actually state it, so that would be interesting to know more about.

    but his body language sure screams it.

  15. #115
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    he doesn't want to be a mav? can you expand on that? i live in cali, and i hadn't heard that.
    Apparently he has issues with Cuban and wouldn't mind a trade to the Bobcats and being back in NC. If that's the case, ship his ass out for Gerald Wallace. Wallace is two years younger, isn't in love with his jumpshot, and goes all out for 48 minutes a game on both ends of the court. Wallace hasn't fallen in love with himself after getting his money.

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    issues with cuban? how can you have issues with a guy that try's everything to win? has cuban been openly critical of howards game ? or what?

  17. #117
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    the team is a bunch of pussy es. it's alot easier to point the finger at the coach & owner than it is to point the finger at themselves.

    everyone but Dirk & Kidd should be fair game. And Howard/Stack/Jet all have to be off this team next year. I don't care if we get 50 cents on the dollar in a trade, but Howard/Jet/Stack absolutely have to go.

  18. #118
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    The positions that I see that are weaknesses on this team are shooting guard, backup center, backup power forward, and backup SF. The scrubs that need to go are Stackhouse (too old), George (too horrible on offense), Bass (too poor defensively and rebounding), and Malik Allen (also to poor in those categories).
    So I'll put question marks around the positions I want changed on this team. Coach change is also wanted.
    C Dampier
    PF Nowitzki
    SF Howard
    SG ?
    PG Kidd
    backup C ?
    backup PF ?
    backup SF ?
    backup SG Wright
    backup PG Terry

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    you're a ing idiot if you think Brandon Bass needs to go. if there's a good trade to get a big time player, let him go, but otherwise he's been great for this team.

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    Bass (too poor defensively and rebounding)

  21. #121
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    you're a ing idiot if you think Brandon Bass needs to go. if there's a good trade to get a big time player, let him go, but otherwise he's been great for this team.
    agreed. bass is the only guy that wants the paint, outside of damp.

    "outside of damp". i never thought i'd be saying like this. damp is now a player.

  22. #122
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    If DJ Augustin fell far enough, which is doubtful, he's another guy you'd have to take. A "future" pick rather than a "win now" but I see greatness in Augustin.

    But that's only if Avery is fired. No need to ruin a good Longhorn PG with a coach incapable of developing a PG.
    I love Augustin, that dude is awesome. But after his poor performance against Memphis, his stock may take a small hit, possibly dropping him just enough. But i still doubt it.

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    i would like to see wright get more minutes. try to develop him as much as possible for next season. the dude has skills. him and bass both.

    whoever things we need to get rid of bass is a moron though.

  24. #124
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    Actually, Mavs might want to consider trading Bass and getting something for him while they can.

    He is on a two-year contract and becomes a free agent in the summer of 2009. Unfortunately, at that point, due to CBA limits the Mavs will only have the ability to offer him a deal that starts at Mid-Level (MLE) money using what is known as the Early Bird cap exception for players with 2 years of consecutive service. The MLE will likely be around $6M, meaning a team with more cap room than that could outbid the Mavs for his ongoing services.

    Perhaps a multi-year deal starting at $6M (and raises) will be enough. Or perhaps he would sign a one-year deal for that $6M, getting the Mavs to 3 years of service and the ability to then offer in the summer of 2010 any contractual amount using the full Bird rights that kick in after 3 years.

    But the better he gets, the harder it may be to keep him.

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    I've never seen a team eat their own like mavs fans. Then again, cowgirls of irving fans do it, too, so it must be a Dal thing.

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