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Splitter hasn't officially signed with Tau (yet). I'd imagine Mahinmi will be the Spurs big man rotation next year - yes, he is still learning.
They don't normally spend the MLE in one lump sum. But I guess when they signed Butler/Elson they split it up among them.
Splitter hasn't officially signed with Tau (yet). I'd imagine Mahinmi will be the Spurs big man rotation next year - yes, he is still learning.
Butler was young but useless. Elson was over 30 (granted, in very good physical condition) but clueless, and Bonner (just remembered) is young but barely plays.They don't normally spend the MLE in one lump sum. But I guess when they signed Butler/Elson they split it up among them.
2009 - the Year of the Bonner?
Kori, do you see it as a foregone conclusion that they'll use (at least most of) the MLE?
Sincerely, Allen Iverson
The key for the Spurs will be to mix young aggressive bench talent with experienced veteran bench talent...and for Pop to play them all in the regular season.
Defense can be taught. Scoring cannot. The Spurs need to find guys in the draft and free agency who can light it up.
I think it depends on what they do with their draft picks. I think they'll try to package their picks and trade up.
What's the excuse now, Holt? You're nowhere near the Lux Tax. Did you enjoy last night?
you can only expect this kind of simplistic approach from a re ed person.
so because of a bad foul the spurs lost in 06?
Get a grip.
Holy Crap!!! I think she did!! I wonder why!?!
Manu is the right piece to the puzzle.
it's really annoying that he's so injury prone and seems so easily tired.
but he's the ing right piece of the puzzle.
who can say he's not after having seen the last 5 years of spurs basketball ??
yes, he's probably overrated here with a lot of manu's groupies, but he's freaking awesome. don't touch the big three !!
the rebuilding thing is stupid. we have 3 or 4 good years of tim and manu. we don't need to waste them with very young and raw players who will need 3 years to be at the required level.
some teams build during long years to only hope making a run in the PO.
We have Tim, Tony and manu. and it makes us automatically first class contenders. all we need is to surround them well. which, i agree, is not so easy.
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o no!!1
I think the right way is trying to have better role young and athletic players instead of the Ime,Finley,Horry,Oberto,Vaughn,Stoudemire.. And then you keep the Big Four(plus maybe Kurt anb Brent).
And I'd like to see Manu develop into a REAL 6th man, not obliged to do all by himself and getting tired.
Some of you guys are just ridiculous. Quit trying to rationalize a trade for Manu solely on the basis of how he performed in the last series. He was our best player all season long, and he's a big reason we've been able to win 3 championships. He's almost unstoppable when he's healthy. Next year, hopefully he wont have to play excessive minutes during the regular season because guys get hurt. It would also be nice to have new bench guys that can help us out sufficienty enough so that opposing teams aren't able to predict our offense as much and zero in on our main guys so much. The more predictable your offense is, the harder it is to come by points. Ginobili isn't an anomally in that regard. Guy's like Iverson and even Kobe have a much easier time scoring nowadays than just a couple years ago, when they were both on teams that ran pretty predictable offenses. We need to find bench guys that can lift the load off on ALL of our main guys, not just Ginobili.
Anyobdy entertaining the thought that we should trade Manu is a clueless idiot. There's a reason he's been close to unstoppable his whole career - it's because he's that good. Unfortunately for him, the combination of an untimely injury to his ankle, excessive minutes during regular season, and not enough guys on our team to balance the offense did him in. It did us in.
Manu is still Manu, guys. While Shasha may have played great defense against Ginobili, anyobdy who thinks he'd have had the same results against a right Ginobili that didn't have to incur all the things he had to incur this season and post season is stupid. The guy was hurt in the New Orleans series and it's the reason why he wasn't himself int hat series, too. And I don't see anyone giving Mo pete any credit.
I'd give the big 3 another two years together until the end of Manu's contract. I wonder how the FO will handle that.
I'd hate to trade him, but timvp is absolutely right that the team has to find a way to rest him for the playoffs. A healthy Manu and I'm sure we would've beaten LA this year. He is our closer, and that's exactly what was missing this year.
OK, then let's do it and see who will come up when needed.
And the fact is that this trio has brought in 3 les and competed for a le every year they've been here.
We rebuild around them like we did in 04 and 06. What this team really needs and has needed for some team is a solid inside player who can rebound and score. Tim needs help his monster numbers were awesome but there was no DRob, Malik, or the 07 version of Oberto to help him this year, when Tim was out or in foul trouble it was a layup drill on our defensive end of our court. And this problem was all season long.
DO NOT TOUCH MANU!! He is part of what makes the Spurs a great team along with Tim, Tony and Bruce. Truth be told, the Spurs are so blessed to have a player like Manu. Great at ude, clutch, a compe or, an ego-healthy guy, his will is awesome and the best team player ever. Every elimination game this playoff, Manu showed up (even with that injury) to keep us from getting eliminated, and that includes game 3 against the Lakers. He is a phenomenal player. A winner everwhere he plays.
If your wanting to trade Manu because of the injuries and stuff and the so unlike him playoff play, think again, the injuries and fatigue was caused by the injury drama which came upon the Spurs midway the season. He had to carry the entire team when T&T got injured. Nobody else really stepped up to help him. And then February came and it was Manu and TD who had to again double their efforts to just win. Then Fin can't really produce well, the team had trouble winning, so he had to be yo-yoed back and forth to the bench. So basically, Manu has to and had filled every half empty cup of coffee throughout the season. And as for Manu having no gas come playoff time, its because he had done more than his part. Picked and twicked every broken and loose screw we had just to get to the playoffs. Don't put this loss on him. Others must also step up and be the star of some wins if we don't want this situation to happen again.
Lay off. Give him a rest. Manu deserves it. Respect for him!
Probably the worst time to suggest a Manu trade.
He was just exposed in that series as being an inconsistent shooter and overall player when he doesn't have his quickness. What we saw in Ginobili was the player he is likely to become in three to four years, unless he continues to improve his jumpshooting ability.
Bottom Line: Manu is a fierce compe or and a great player, but his injuries made him an average player in that series....and it would be poor strategy on the Spurs' part if they tried to trade him now.
Man I keep reading here and this is about to become an epic re ed thread with several re ed people posting on it. Thank God none of those idiots are running the SPurs FO or the whole team would be dead by now.
Concern yourself with Odom, he sux and he was healthy. What was his excuse for his crappy games, out of 5 games he had 2 good ones against OBerto and Horry. So, him and you for not worrying about the crappiness that is the Quakers
Exposed, exposed, why because he admitted to being hurt. Odom wasnt hurt and he had several subpar games. What was his excuse? Oh wait a minute he was subpar all year long. Isnt that why Kobe wanted to leave LA? Cuz all of yalls players except for 1 was not to his liking. Manu wasnt exposed; the hornets, suns and a hurt ankle had more to do with his not doing well then the lakers ever wished. The Lakers are garbage, Manu would have torched them just like he did the previous 2 rounds.
Why the Spurs don't just trade Parker? guy is heartless and a pussy.
Or Why they don't trade TD? he is getting old and soft, he whines to much too.
Or why Pop don't fire himself and hire Sean E , who is a better coach.
Or why the Spurs move to a bigger market?
MAN, I HATE THE SPURSFANS EVEN YEARS SUMMER MELTDOWN.
Just a yr ago your beloved MVP, hated bein in your city because he said all but 1 of your players suck including "the machine"
I have really mixed feelings about trading Manu. On one hand he's done so much for this franchise. But at the same time his style of play will wear him down drastically the next couple of years. I haven't looked into all the detail of the manu + scrub for carmelo trade laker fan suggested but I think it would be very appealing if possible (which i seriously doubt it is). I also see people throwing the idea of Artest around. That wouldn't be bad at all.
Overall I have to say I want to keep Manu around. However, I won't rule out the possibility that there is something better available. Being too scared to depart from the past can set a franchise back for a long time.
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