great image showing NO elevation in cross-section:
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http://www.deadlykatrina.com/
great link, good blog.
great image showing NO elevation in cross-section:
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Yeah but still i miss my tofu cheesesteak woman...
Reports are the uptown area of New Orleans (wherever that is, Tom?) were high and dry yesterday but after the levee break overnight are now covered with 3 feet of water.
It looks like New Orleans is slowly drowning :depressing
Here's the article that went with it...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9130254/
Details on where the levees had given way were hard to come by, but the most serious breach appeared to be "a large section of the vital 17th Street Canal levee, where it connects to the brand new 'hurricane proof' Old Hammond Highway bridge," according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune.
"The breach sent a churning sea of water from Lake Pontchartrain coursing across Lakeview and into Mid-City, Carrollton, Gentilly, City Park and neighborhoods farther south and east," the newspaper said.
The tsunami death toll probably goes up as high as 300,000.
I don't think we have 100,000 dead here, but tens of thousands dead is probable, and there are at least 1 million people homeless, and we're talking about a potential total loss of the largest port in the United States.
CNN was showing a VIPR map and I believe they showed the breach very near where your marker is -- couldn't remember if it was north or south of the highway.This is the 17th Street Canal - no clue where it broke.
Didn't someone say that New Orleans was slowly sinking before all this? Looks like mother nature is accelerating the process.
Man i love New Orleans too, they have great food and great streets
Considering the fact that New Orleans is being flooded at the moment, and they predict water will continue to rise for DAYS, I don't think you can rule out any particular death totals just yet.I don't think we have 100,000 dead here, but tens of thousands dead is probable
Keep in mind you've got the rest of La., Mississippi, and Alabama to factor in as well.
They're reporting Slidell is completely underwater, and reportedly lots of folks foolishly stayed in town to ride it out (population 13000)
It is south of the HWY
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9063708/
incredible pics in the slide show... it's a flash file so i have no idea how to snatch the pics and host them directly here...
BTW- gas is up an average of 50cents nationwide.......
We got gas last night and it was actually down by five or six cents from a few days before. I wonder if it's up at that same station today.
I havn't left the house in days so I was hoping someone here could say what the local prices are looking liek this afternoon...
"To be honest with you, people who are oppressed all their lives, man, it's an opportunity to get back at society," he said.
--- looter---
If he's lucky, he can grab a watch off The Man's dead body as it floats on by. That'll show 'em.
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shoot first ask later!
check out this site, Obiwan
www.gasbuddy.com
You can pull up all prices at various stations in your area. In my area (DC) gas is about 2.80. There are speculations that it may rise another 20 cents within the week. yikes.
This is an account of a Charlotte weatherman holed up in New Orleans. I watched his videos earlier...pretty wild. They're on the page I linked to below.
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http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/stori...2.b456bb2.html
6NEWS meteorologist Brad Panovich, who weathered Katrina inside the Hyatt Hotel across from the Superdome in New Orleans, is still in the city and tells us what it’s like the day after.
Brad Panovich said he was back at the station Tuesday after being evacuated into a conference room inside a hotel while Katrina hit the city Monday morning.
“I was able to get my first shower in almost 48 hours,” said Panovich. “Got a little bit of sleep, so its been a lot better a little more comfortable here even though we still don’t have power and communication is still pretty poor across area.”
Panovich said he was glad to get back to the station even though moving through the city was extremely slow and hazardous.
“Its been pretty bad since yesterday when we talked,” Panovich recounted. “We were able to get back here to the station. The Hyatt situation was pretty miserable. We were all crammed in that room. We couldn’t go outside the hotel because of all the damage being done to the hotel. You pretty much felt helpless and you pretty much wanted to get back here to the station.”
He said a firefighter escorted them up to their rooms to get their belongings they had left behind around 10 a.m. They has to take the stairs because the elevator shaft had been flooded by the previous days rain.
“I got into my room to get my luggage and the window was completely blown out. You could see out into the roof of the Superdome and there was glass everywhere. We got our stuff and trekked back to the station in a caravan of vans dodging the debris,” said Panovich.
He said it took a very long time to get back to the station due to the mess the storm had left behind. He said at every intersection the lights were down, the trees were down, and you had to swerve around it.
“Three of our vans actually got flat tires because of all the debris we had to drive over,” said Panovich.
He said they finally got back to the station and got the generator back up and running. The worked to get the station back in working order and were back on the air by 4 p.m. They stayed on the air until 11 p.m. to take a break and get some sleep but were back on the air by 8 a.m. Tuesday.
“The thing was once we got back to the station and we got out and tried to do some reporting we really started to see the devastation in the city. The amount of water was just unbelievable,” said Panovich.
Many of the windows of the Hyatt were blown out during the storm.
He said the center part of the city was dry, but everything around that part of the city was under water. He said it wasn’t the worst scenario imaginable, but you don’t need to stray far to find heavy flooding in every direction.
“That’s sort of limiting us too because we’re kind of stuck in an island right now,” explained Panovich.
He said for much of the day they were out of communication with their crew in Mississippi and they didn’t have much information. When they finally did find out that the area to the east had been harder hit it was hard to comprehend.
“Its hard for us to imagine how bad it is there because it’s so bad here, and we just got brushed, we didn’t actually get the direct hit,” said Panovich.
Panovich said the big story today is the lack of supplies needed for basic survival.
He said people are still trapped in the Superdome and in their homes. The Superdome, which served as a shelter for the city for people who were unable to evacuate, suffered from a roof collapse Monday. Panovich said they moved the people up into the upper seats away from the middle of the field where rain and debris were coming into the stadium.
“They don’t really have anywhere else to send them and because it’s so bad they’re really not allowed to leave,” said Panovich.
He also said water cannot be drunk unless it has been boiled, but with electricity out, there is no way for many to get drinking water.
“Most of the perishable food has either gone bad or been eaten. Already food and water are becoming a big concern right now for folks in shelters and folks trapped in their homes in the Metro area,” said Panovich.
Panovich said that he knows aid is on the way but it will be hard to get into the city. He said the causeway bridge from the north has been destroyed. Also I-10, which runs from Florida to Arizona and the eastern artery into the city, has also been wiped out.
“Basically they’ve got to come in from the west and even there is water. Probably the only way you could come in is by air, and that may be the way these supplies will have to come in,” he said.
That lack of supplies has also led to some people giving in to darker instincts. Some people have been looting stores taking what they need.
Some of the wreckage the crew saw on the way back to the station.
“That was probably the scariest moment yesterday as we were driving back we saw some men at the Winn Dixie not to far from the station looting. Police came pretty quickly and busted that up but when we got back to the station you’d see groups of men in pickup trucks. You’d see these guys driving around in pickup trucks and they’re just driving around looking for opportunities to take advantage of the situation,” Panovich recalled.
He said there was even a situation where one looter shot another and officials were unable to get him help because the hospital couldn’t treat him because of the conditions from the aftermath of the storm.
“After sunset it got dark, and that’s when it got rally scary because you would look out at this major U.S. city and not a light was on. For the first time since I’ve ever been here I could look up and see every star in the sky. It was that dark,” said Panovich. That’s when it was kind of scary because our station, I know this sounds kind of weird, but we were kind of like a Christmas tree because we were the only ones with power and people knew that and we have some supplies here.”
He said security was a big issue overnight and they had to lock down the station to make sure people wouldn’t try and break in.
“It’s almost that sort of ‘Lord of the Flies’ thing where people are looking for what you have and they don’t,” said Panovich.
2.35 at the local diamond shamrock as of 6:55 this morning.....down 3 cents from yesterday.
damn CNN/FOX/NBC....... propganda crap.
Has anyone heard if the Pontchartrain Causeway held up ok? I think that is the world's longest suspension bridge or something.
count yourself lucky. Gas prices in my hood...
2.88 Exxon Chevy Chase Tue
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Connecticut & Nebraska
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