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    Hopefully Nando's nice stint tonight helped his trade value..
    He'll get more exposure tomorrow on national tv too. At least I hope he gets 10 points so Barkley or Shaq can accidentally get his last name wrong and say ''culo' on air.

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    I understand now. So there is actually no way to make that deal work then without giving up the essiential players.
    That or adding two of Baynes, Mills and Joseph.

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    One more guy the Spurs could look for is, CJ Miles of the Cavaliers. Has shown decent metrics and is an expiring contract as well. The Cavs are a mess and there is no idea which direction they might seek to go - tank & pick again from a better lottery or try to salvage something from a flawed roster through trades and try reaching the postseason in the putrid East.
    The Spurs could do worse than Miles. Decent size, athleticism and D and he's shooting the 3 well this year. Shouldn't take too much to get him either tbh.

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    The Spurs could do worse than Miles. Decent size, athleticism and D and he's shooting the 3 well this year. Shouldn't take too much to get him either tbh.
    Indeed. Only problem is that he is more of a 2.5 rather than a 3.5 which is the Spurs' immediate need.

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    Indeed. Only problem is that he is more of a 2.5 rather than a 3.5 which is the Spurs' immediate need.
    Would have agreed with that sentiment earlier this season but reviewing the current roster of the other contenters, i'm of the opinion that Spurs need a 3 that can defend 2s more than a 3 that can defend 4s tbh.

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    FO has probably deemed the team doesn't need an extra wing because Diaw can play the 3. My hunch every year as to why they keep the extra roster spot open is to sign buyout candidates for the vet min. I don't see any viable buyout candidates this year. They'll probably avert from making trades and keep signing 10 day contracts. Sad, but I think the premium on team chemistry will always take precedence over acquiring more talented players.

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    Havent seen this posted yet http://www.projectspurs.com/2014-art...ith-bulls.html
    Probably speculation more than anything.

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    Havent seen this posted yet http://www.projectspurs.com/2014-art...ith-bulls.html
    Probably speculation more than anything.
    Gibson would be awesome!

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    Havent seen this posted yet http://www.projectspurs.com/2014-art...ith-bulls.html
    Probably speculation more than anything.
    Dunleavy might happen, but there is no way the Bulls are giving up Gibson for what the Spurs have to offer. And the Spurs wouldn't touch Boozer's contract with a 10ft pole even if they could get him for spare parts, they aren't going to do it if it requires them to give up someone like Splitter.

    Best part of that article " Note: The source has not been vetted. Please take it for what it is worth."

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    Dunleavy might happen, but there is no way the Bulls are giving up Gibson for what the Spurs have to offer. And the Spurs wouldn't touch Boozer's contract with a 10ft pole even if they could get him for spare parts, they aren't going to do it if it requires them to give up someone like Splitter.

    Best part of that article " Note: The source has not been vetted. Please take it for what it is worth."
    I don't think that the Bulls give up Gibson or even Dunleavy unless they are getting equal value back which the Spurs don't have to give. Dunleavy is too versatile and Gibson is a huge part of their defensive iden y which Thibs values (and rightly so) above all else.

    And a big no to Boozer.

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    I don't think that the Bulls give up Gibson or even Dunleavy unless they are getting equal value back which the Spurs don't have to give. Dunleavy is too versatile and Gibson is a huge part of their defensive iden y which Thibs values (and rightly so) above all else.

    And a big no to Boozer.
    The reason for these trades by the bulls is not to get equal value back, rather it is the opportunity to take a run at a max FA without gutting there core. This is why they will amnesty Boozer rather than trade him (except for expirings). However, looking at their cap situation:

    Player 2014/2015
    Derrick Rose $18,862,876
    Carlos Boozer $0
    Joakim Noah $12,200,000
    Taj Gibson $8,000,000
    Mike Dunleavy $3,326,235
    Tony Snell $1,472,400
    Jimmy Butler $2,008,748
    Richard Hamilton $333,334
    Cap Holds
    Nikola Mirotic $1,075,300

    Total Salary $47,278,893


    Assuming they Amnesty Boozer, and dump their cap holds (except Mirtic - the only important one is Kirk Hinrich...) They are at $47.3 M total salary (and 8 spots filled - they need to count 3 minimum Salary fillers at ~500K apiece, and 2 first round picks - currently 15 and 17 for $2.8M between them). The NBA projects a 2014/15 Salary Cap of $62.1 M. This would give the Bulls $10.5M in salary cap space. This is not max FA territory. Moving Dunleavy would put them pretty close (for players with 1-6 years ~$14M). Moving Gibson for expirings would make a run at either Carmelo or Lebron practical (with 10+ years in league, the max is ~ $19 M).

    To summarize, the Bulls may want to pull moves to make FA space this summer, because until Rose is back on the court, they aren't actually competing for a le. And the pieces they would look to move would be Dunleavy and Gibson, as neither are really core for the Bulls...

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    Havent seen this posted yet http://www.projectspurs.com/2014-art...ith-bulls.html
    Probably speculation more than anything.
    I stopped reading after he said boozer.

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    I don't think that the Bulls give up Gibson or even Dunleavy unless they are getting equal value back which the Spurs don't have to give. Dunleavy is too versatile and Gibson is a huge part of their defensive iden y which Thibs values (and rightly so) above all else.

    And a big no to Boozer.
    Dunleavy is a non essential player and is under contract for next season at $3 million. Bonner for Dunleavy works and it saves them $3 million

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    Chris Grant fired by the Cavs

    I'd expect a fire sale maybe they call time on the season and tank (intentionally this time)

    I'd assume anyone not named Kyrie could be fair game (maybe they keep Thompson)

    Varejao would be a major upgrade to our front line. Makes $9.1 this season, with a team option for $9.8 next season. I'm not sure what they'd want back for him, whether it be expiring contracts or picks.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k2cavyx
    Bonner
    De Colo
    Ayers
    1st round pick

    For

    Varejao
    Felix
    Dellavedova

    (Last two players are trade filler, Cleveland has 15 players currently. Neither of them are under contract next season)

    While it would certainly be nice to add a defender on who can guard on the wing, Varajao is a very good defender and rebounder giving us a deep four man rotation at the 4 & 5. Though it would be interesting to see how much burn he gets in the post season with GSW, & OKC tending to go small late.

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    Knowing that a lot of SA fans like Taj Gibson, here it is:

    Interesting article by deeks concerning the Bulls situation about Taj Gibson and the lux tax.

    http://www.shamsports.com/2014/02/ho...bson.html#more

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    What is everyone's reaction to Taj Gibson? Obviously a long shot but jw what people would think of a move involving him coming here.

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    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=k2cavyx
    Bonner
    De Colo
    Ayers
    1st round pick

    For

    Varejao
    Felix
    Dellavedova

    (Last two players are trade filler, Cleveland has 15 players currently. Neither of them are under contract next season)
    I like it , I think we're missing scoring at the 4 and 5 and that allows OKC to have an easier time shutting down our guards...

    Caldwell Pope has been relegated to the bench in the last game, I'd trade for him in an heartbeat, something like :
    Bonner + Beli + DeColo for Villanueva + Caldwell Pope
    we probably have to give up our first but I'd hate parting with it, maybe send Livio or/and Bertans instead...

    I know Villanueva sucks but it's hard to come up with realistic trades that fit our two needs at once and he'd still be an upgrade.

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    Varejao or Gibson would be fan-freaking-tastic!! But doubt it happens...

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    Gibson's trade value is way too high for the Spurs IMO..he has legit potential to be a very good #2 big on a good team, tbh, which means that some NBA team could easily over-value him and mistake him for a future #1 big..

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    I'm skeptical Spurs will do something big at the trade deadline. A trade like De Colo and Baynes for Dunleavy sounds way more likely.

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    Gibson's trade value is way too high for the Spurs IMO..he has legit potential to be a very good #2 big on a good team, tbh, which means that some NBA team could easily over-value him and mistake him for a future #1 big..
    Agreed. The Bulls can do far better than expirings and a really late first-rounder for Gibson. They would definitely listen if you throw in Kawhi, but the Spurs can't afford to lose their only SF. Adding in Dunleavy at least leaves the Spurs with a SF on the roster, but him starting at SF would likely be a defensive disaster against guys like Durant and LeBron. Though a Parker/Green/Dunleavy/Gibson/Duncan starting lineup is quite intriguing, and closing with Manu instead of Dunleavy could be a good counter to smallball lineups from the Thunder, Warriors, or Heat.

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    Agreed. The Bulls can do far better than expirings and a really late first-rounder for Gibson. They would definitely listen if you throw in Kawhi, but the Spurs can't afford to lose their only SF. Adding in Dunleavy at least leaves the Spurs with a SF on the roster, but him starting at SF would likely be a defensive disaster against guys like Durant and LeBron. Though a Parker/Green/Dunleavy/Gibson/Duncan starting lineup is quite intriguing, and closing with Manu instead of Dunleavy could be a good counter to smallball lineups from the Thunder, Warriors, or Heat.
    Don't talk about trading Whi-whi!

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    Gibson's trade value is way too high for the Spurs IMO..he has legit potential to be a very good #2 big on a good team, tbh, which means that some NBA team could easily over-value him and mistake him for a future #1 big..
    I found it odd that he was even mentioned to be available. They have a legit starting PF on a relatively cheap deal can score and defend as well. They can just cut Boozer and go with Noah and Gibson.

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    Don't talk about trading Whi-whi!
    I had thought about a deal of Deng/Gibson/Dunleavy (maybe) for Splitter/Kawhi/spare parts. If the Bulls still had Deng, that would save them a boatload of future money, and I'd challenge any team in the league to consistently score on a Parker/Green/Deng/Gibson/Duncan lineup.

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    "The Sixers, sources say, continue to hold out hope that they can acquire a future first-round pick for either forward Evan Turner or center Spencer Hawes before the Feb. 20 trade deadline. Both players become free agents in July"-Marc Stein

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