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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Come on base! You gotta have someone to bend over in your life
    It sounded like a good idea when Louie was talking about it tbh



    Will have to try the opiate suppositories next.

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    shogun 2 total war is free right now tbqh
    Dude I got so many ing games I haven't played yet. I could never buy another game for like ten years and still not run out of that I own and still really want to play.

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    Dude I got so many ing games I haven't played yet. I could never buy another game for like ten years and still not run out of that I own and still really want to play.

    Yup,i buy new games without even finishing the old ones. Quite sad

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    Is that math right? There was a 3.6% reduction compared to the placebo group (11.6 vs. 8). Isn't that an overall 33% reduction? Or am I completely out of it?
    You said it, 3.6%... 11.6% and 8% are already overall percentages over the sample groups.

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    Fauci seems pretty excited about it

    Well of course, it's a positive development.

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    Life won't return to normal until people are no longer afraid to be in close proximity to one another. Social distancing won't do that. You need medicine - whether a proven treatment like remdesivir or a vaccine. Hopefully, we'll look back on today as the first day we turned the corner and progressed back toward normalcy.
    Unless you're one of the ST incels, tbh...

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    another dummies guide to herd immunity (helped me)

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sci...9-pandemic/amp

    herd immunity without a vaccine is basically worst case scenario.

    say 70% of population needs to be infected and say with a deathrate of .5%

    that would make it likely that we lose 1 million ppl in the process

    and thats not taking into account ppl that would die of other related causes like lack of medical care

    and also not taking into account that Covid immunity might not even last enough to achieve natural herd immunity
    Pretty much. The hospitals would be overrun.

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    TheGreatYacht I found your captain
    look at this dude acting all tough now

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    Going for herd immunity is goddamn stupid. New York is probably the best sample of infection we have in the world, especially as their demographic relates to the overall US demographic, so we can logically extrapolate NY to the rest of the country. New York did an antibody test across the state that revealed 14.9% prevalence. However, this was not a random sample and relied on volunteers exiting grocery stores, meaning self-selection (i.e. people who think they might've had it would be more likely to volunteer). That said, New York state obviously has a high infection rate. 300K confirmed. I think a fair estimate is that there's probably 10x that amount of actual cases, or 3 million across the state.

    So currently we can estimate they have 3 million infected with 23400 deaths. Word is you need 60 percent of the population infected to reach herd immunity. That translates into 12 million infected and nearly 100K deaths, just in New York. The per capita rate is 4000 deaths for every million. So, if we went for herd immunity across the entire country, we're looking at 180 some million infections and around 800K deaths and millions of hospitalizations and people suffering at home (many "mild" cases aren't some head cold. Week long fevers, terrible chest congestion, severe body aches, chronic dry cough). That situation would crash the economy much more than a lockdown ever would.

    Now it could be argued that the New York (and East Coast situation) might not happen in other regions, especially the sunnier areas in the country, even if you let the virus run its course. There's some studies showing that Vitamin D deficiency leads to more severe cases. And perhaps the R0 in these less densely populated sunnier regions is considerably slower than it is New York (New York experiences about 7.5x the amount of flu infections every season vs. CA, TX), that it would take a few years to infect 60 percent of the population, which would spread those deaths out over those few years. But then you'll have a situation where you're battling flu/covid seasons for multiple years. And we still don't know how long prior infections are immune for.

    Accelerating herd immunity is a dangerous strategy. Carl Bergstrom has said that infections just won't magically stop at 60 percent prevalence and you'll overshoot that number by a good margin, which means herd immunity will probably cost over 1 million lives.

    The solution really is to just to mitigate death through social distancing, test and trace, good hygiene, mask wearing, and getting yourself in better health (obesity, beetus, big factors here) until a vaccine and antivirals are developed. Or maybe the virus mutates into a less severe strain, which many viruses tend to do. For the economy, we'll probably just have to oscillate between openings and closures as the situation demands it.

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    New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

    Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.

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    New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

    Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.
    tbh, wonder if we're going to hit 100,000 on 4th of July...

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    New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

    Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.
    Jesus what a nightmare.

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    New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/

    Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.
    You mean we won't magically hit 74k and flatline until August like the WH model says?

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    Jesus what a nightmare.
    Trash's "defense" is scapegoating China (they lied) and WHO (defunded). I expect that defense to be major thrust for his campaign.

    He certainly can't run on jobs or the economy or simplistically on the stock market.

    meaning of course "total authority/no responsibility" Trash is totally innocent, was screwed up, lied to by foreigners, pandering to his racist/xenophobic White/Christian Nationalists cult mob

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    New model. Carl Bergstrom likes this one the best and the creator has gone back to prior dates and illustrated his model has been pretty on predicting deaths. https://covid19-projections.com/
    This model is about the best, most realistic, I've seen based on the current situation, which assumes we will continue on the downward curve like Italy & Spain. A couple of outbreaks in cities like Atlanta or Miami could throw it into chaos.

    Median projection is 166K by August. You can scroll down and see the probabilities per number. He gives it a 50% chance of 150K by August 1. My instinct tells me we'll be around the 125K (71% chance), because I think the NY/NJ situations will die down (as they are, per their daily infection rate) and Summer will slow transmission.
    I agree with the model on the 125k by mid-June but think we'll be slightly above the 166k by August, probably closer to 175k.

    This assumes the current situation isn't upended by unforeseen outbreaks due to re-opening of course.

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    more (unending) evidence that conservatives value Capital over human life.

    If you aren't producing for Capital income, and esp if you are net consumer of wealth (retired, social safety net, etc) you worse the worthless.

    Evidence from one of y'all's favorite psychopaths

    Ben Shapiro Suggests Older People Dying Of COVID-19 Is ‘Tragic,’ But Also Not So Bad

    an 81-year-old dying of the coronavirus “is not the same thing”

    as a younger person dying from it.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ben-s...wsltushpmgnews

    ... BS is stating the overwhelming truth that Capitalism places no value on human or any other life or the environment


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    look at this dude acting all tough now
    Should be interesting, de Blasio takes action to prevent Hassidics from gathering, Barr steps in and takes deBlasio to court forcing Jew’s right to assembly, NYC death count goes screaming back up.

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    Dude I got so many ing games I haven't played yet. I could never buy another game for like ten years and still not run out of that I own and still really want to play.
    Everybody has to have a life goal.

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    Jesus.

    - During World War II, we taxed the rich at 96 percent on earnings over 200K to help fund the war effort.
    - Today, we give the rich 500 billion to "help" the war effort.

    , Yeah without that preserving jobs stipulation, it's really going to "trickle down." I expect this cash to be used mostly for stock buybacks in a last ditch effort to save some of the quarterly report.

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    Jesus.

    - During World War II, we taxed the rich at 96 percent on earnings over 200K to help fund the war effort.
    - Today, we give the rich 500 billion to "help" the war effort.

    , Yeah without that preserving jobs stipulation, it's really going to "trickle down." I expect this cash to be used mostly for stock buybacks in a last ditch effort to save some of the quarterly report.
    Trash gotta get them PAC contributions.

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    The Oxford lab leading the race for a coronavirus vaccine says it hopes to get an idea of whether it works on humans in mid-June

    https://www.businessinsider.com/oxfo...s ute-2020-4

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    Presently, there is no scientifically proven basis for governments to suggest that having acquired antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2 virus guarantees immunity to reinfection, nor should it serve as a basis for an “immunity passport.” This was stated most clearly by the World Health Organization last Friday, “There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection.”

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    last Thursday by New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who claimed that about one in five people in New York City and nearly 14 percent of the population of his state may have antibodies to the coronavirus.

    However, given the reported specificity of their antibody test, Dr. Anisha Jha of Harvard’s Global Health Ins ute pointed out on Twitter that the real rate of infections in New York could be as low as seven percent, and possibly half of those testing positive may actually be designated as “false positives” and not really carrying protective antibodies, and therefore are susceptible to contracting and possibly dying from the disease.

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    However, reports of early reinfections in Japan, as well as concerns over dozens of individuals in South Korea who tested positive after a do ented COVID-19 infection, have health authorities and scientists perplexed. According to the spokesman for the South Korean health and welfare minister, Son Young-rae, these positive results occurred between two days and two weeks after patients were released from quarantine. Some had developed fevers and respiratory symptoms as well. They were placed back into isolation. Data from China on patients discharged from a Wuhan hospital corroborates these unusual developments, with approximately 5-10 percent of patients who had been pronounced “recovered” have tested positive for the virus again.

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