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Crazy proposal that might just work due to cap issues and free agency
SAS out Bonner, Ayres, De Colo, SAS First 2016 - top 8 protected
CHI out Gibson, Dunleavy
Who would you rather have out of those 2?
Crazy proposal that might just work due to cap issues and free agency
SAS out Bonner, Ayres, De Colo, SAS First 2016 - top 8 protected
CHI out Gibson, Dunleavy
turnr
What about Granger?
Why would we give up a 1st round pick for a half a season rental?
Because if that ''half a season rental'' helps win us that fifth le, then who cares about the 30th pick in a draft people are already starting to say is decent but overrated? And what's to stop the acquired player from sticking with the team next season, when we'll have some money freed up? The point is moot anyways because the FO won't budge by the deadline.
Last edited by SpurPadre; 02-07-2014 at 09:41 PM.
idk, just throwing out there.
nice if we could swing that. thet dumped deng for peanuts so why not.
Neither. Turner is a high volume shooter, most of his teams have been better off when he isn't on the floor.
Hawes is too slow to be a very good defender but can shoot a bit. Phili has been a rumored trade partner for a while.
Massive Contract. Have to move Splitter to help get in trade range.
Granger
For
Splitter
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mdry58w
or
Granger
for
Diaw
Bonner
De Colo
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=pfzxs5h
those would be the two easiest ways but it wouldn't be worth it. Maybe if a third team were added but it seems to be too much work for a player who is still working his way back after a season worth of injuries.
Granger has been one of the worst rotation players in the league this season, tbh..
Yeah. I think people are remembering back to his 25 a game run 7 or so seasons ago. He missed basically all of last season and a chunk of this season. There is plenty of rust and not alot of minutes to go around with Lan and Paul playing his positions. They'd be better keeping him and hope he can become useful in the post season.
Jeremy Evans be a decent back up SF. Pretty athletic could also get Gobert in the the deal.
Turner is a RFA, if i'm not mistaken. Hawes is an UFA. Neither move the meter in terms of making the Spurs better so I wouldn't. I just posted the qoute because Phili has been rumored to be a seller come deadline.
Both are projects. Neither can contribute now. Golbert is a walking ladder though.
I'd like this one
Washington Gets
Bonner
Ayres
De Colo
Spurs Get
Rice Jr.
Vessley
Webster
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lbm9lk4
Vessley -A long, athletic big man (7'0) who can run the floor. He is free agent after this season. The Spurs could use the remaining couple of months prior to the playoffs to try him out. He has potential to be a nice rotation player down the road and could be had on the cheap now, given he is only playing 15 mpg.
Rice Jr-Freakish athlete (40 inch max vert), 6'5 with a 6'9 wingspan. Spent last season in the D-league instead of college. Averaged 14.5 ppg on 49%. According to DX he is an efficient offensive player and primarily plays SF. Could be a nice prospect for the future as well.
Webster- A lengthy SF. (6'6, 6'11 wing span) lethal 3pt shoot (40% on 5 3PA). One of the best 3pt shooters last season. Could be a passable backup to Kawhi.
A little dated (back from '08 when he was drafted) but from DX...
"Shows some signs on the defensive end, but not consistently. Not a bad one-on-one defender, but lacks the lateral quickness to consistently defend more athletic players. Will get beat off the dribble from time to time. Reaches a little bit too frequently. Doesn’t come up with many steals or blocks regardless. Has the size to contest shots and does a decent job getting a hand up when his man pulls up.
Lacks some experience and savvy on this end. Will try and close out shooters and block their shots, leaving himself out of position for long rebounds. Cleans the glass at a solid rate for a wing. Makes a nice effort defensively, but still needs to develop better anticipation and fundamentals."
Washington has shortened the rotation. Vessley and Rice Jr. are already out of it. Moving Webster would save them $11 million over the next two seasons. Even including Ayers $1.8 million in 14-15, they'd save $3.5 million and open up playing time for top pick Otto Porter next year.
Sam Amick again -
"Philadelphia 76ers (15-35)And in the final episode of Fear Factor, we have the case of Evan Turner (another Falk client). The fourth-year swingman is having a very productive season, averaging 17.8 points, 6.0 rebounds and 3.8 assists per game. But the price for that production in his forthcoming restricted free agency (if he's extended the qualifying offer) is likely too rich for the 76ers' blood, meaning they'd rather net a first-round draft pick in return for him and continue their rebuilding efforts with a more salary-cap friendly situation. One rival executive mentioned the San Antonio Spurs and Charlotte Bobcats as possible destinations via trade, though both teams could also wait until the offseason to see if they could simply sign him then. Sixers center Spencer Hawes and Young are also frequently mentioned as trade possibilities."
Link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...rondo/5295879/
I doubt they move Webster. He's been awesome this season, and he played down the stretch instead of Beal against the Spurs. The Wizards will lose a wing next season, and it depends on if they want to keep Ariza. If they keep him, Porter could be moved. If Trevor walks, Porter slides into the SL and Webster remains sixth man.
If Ginobili were going to miss the season, I could kind of see it. But unless Beli is moved, there's no room for a wing making that much money. He'd be a poor fit for Charlotte since they have no spacing, but it's never a bad deal to acquire a fine young player for cheap.
And there's no way the Spurs sign him in free agency unless his stock plummets. Utah might.
I agree.
Turner is a tweener who doesn't shoot the 3, favours the mid range jump shot, isn't someone who plays well without the ball and needs to be the primary orchestrator. Unless, Manu retires, there is no scenario where the Spurs would prefer to have him this season or the next.
That also said, he is a restricted free agent at the end of this season and carries a large cap hold till he is extended a qualifying offer. Besides, I am not sure how the Sixers would like a package of a late first round pick (most likely 2015 and not 2014) and Spurs' expirings now. Charlotte with its surfeit of First Round picks this and next year are more likely to be a better trade partner and even though he won't necessarily be useful as a wing spacing-wise, his infusion will lift their abysmal talent levels.
What about Ben Gordon as a buyout candidate? I don't want a PG anymore than anyone else, but he's a proven scorer who can puy up needed points in the right situation. Stuckey and Freddette are candidates as well. Jimmer has the added benefit of being an RFA next season if he's bought out and signs with a new club this season.
Redundant... Gordon's corpse is a wasted one, these days with zero offense to go with pathetic defense. Stuckey could be decent, but is redundant for the Spurs and Fredette's defense is worse than Gary Neal's.
I can't imagine much better after the deadline with such a weak FA class and the East still being wide open. Maybe they could get luckyw with Jordan Hamilton if he gets bought out or if the Nuggets are interested in De Colo. Jordan would also be an RFA if he were bought out. He has great size and is a decent shooter.
And this excellent post by Mark Deeks at shamsports suggests why Taj Gibson should continue to excel for the Spurs' sake (in order to land Dunleavy from the skinflint Bulls who are using a stream of 10 day contracts to avoid paying their luxury tax) - http://www.shamsports.com/2014/02/ho...aj-gibson.html
Loved that article. Trading De Colo and Baynes for Dunlevy would allow Chicago to not have to worry about juggling the books, as they would have 13 players under contract. So even if they got crazy bonuses, they'd be fine. Although this implies they don't intend to move Gibson.
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