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    Loved that article. Trading De Colo and Baynes for Dunlevy would allow Chicago to not have to worry about juggling the books, as they would have 13 players under contract. So even if they got crazy bonuses, they'd be fine. Although this implies they don't intend to move Gibson.
    Yes, no way would they move Gibson who is such a good defender and is a Thibodeau player.

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    Yes, no way would they move Gibson who is such a good defender and is a Thibodeau player.
    I bet they move him, they're not going anywhere without a first option Gibson or not, they need the room for a max contract.

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    Amnesty Boozer, gamble on Rose getting healthy again and the Bulls could get a top tier FA to add to the Noah-Rose-Gibson-Butler core.

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    I bet they move him, they're not going anywhere without a first option Gibson or not, they need the room for a max contract.
    They can trade him during the off-season easily. Boston could trade Bogans' dust chip and a couple if picks for him on draft night.

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    Amnesty Boozer, gamble on Rose getting healthy again and the Bulls could get a top tier FA to add to the Noah-Rose-Gibson-Butler core.
    They don't need a top tier FA, they need a first option, the hardest thing to get in bball but gettable if you're a big market with a strong supporting cast.

    They can trade him during the off-season easily. Boston could trade Bogans' dust chip and a couple if picks for him on draft night.
    Sure.

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    Ginobili has missed 6 times games in a little over a year because of issues at his left hamstring.

    So:
    Should Spurs just cross their fingers and hope these injuries won't happen again during a playoffs run?
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    Should Spurs consider that it is somewhat likely that Ginobili will have a 7th or 8th left hamstring injury and that this injury might happen in the playoffs?

    If Spurs pick the second option, going after another perimeter playmaker would be a smart move. Evan Turner, even if his lack of 3 point shot is a big issue, fit that bill especially that his ability to play SF makes him even more interesting.

    The level of Spurs' trust in Ginobili's hammy is one of a key factor in their trade deadline.

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    Ginobili has missed 6 times games in a little over a year because of issues at his left hamstring.

    So:
    Should Spurs just cross their fingers and hope these injuries won't happen again during a playoffs run?
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    Should Spurs consider that it is somewhat likely that Ginobili will have a 7th or 8th left hamstring injury and that this injury might happen in the playoffs?

    If Spurs pick the second option, going after another perimeter playmaker would be a smart move. Evan Turner, even if his lack of 3 point shot is a big issue, fit that bill especially that his ability to play SF makes him even more interesting.

    The level of Spurs' trust in Ginobili's hammy is one of a key factor in their trade deadline.
    Makes sense if seen that way, yes.

    Turner could be a good addition to the second lineup featuring Mills, Belinelli, Diaw & Ayres/Baynes (assuming Bonner is traded for him), if Manu is injured.

    If Manu isn't injured, he could take turns with Green, Belinelli to backup Leonard.

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    Best to lower your epectations when it comes to this front office. We went from courting AK in the off-season to siging Ayres as our 4th big. Doubt the front office makes any meaningful moves.

    As for Turner - not a fan. Decent rebounder but I'm not a fan of low-efficiency, ball-dominant wings. Seems to be another player putting up points on a bad team.

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    Got from hoopshype:

    And in the final episode of Fear Factor, we have the case of Evan Turner (another Falk client). The fourth-year swingman is having a very productive season, averaging 17.8 points, 6.0 rebounds and 3.8 assists per game. But the price for that production in his forthcoming restricted free agency (if he's extended the qualifying offer) is likely too rich for the 76ers' blood, meaning they'd rather net a first-round draft pick in return for him and continue their rebuilding efforts with a more salary-cap friendly situation. One rival executive mentioned the San Antonio Spurs and Charlotte Bobcats as possible destinations via trade, though both teams could also wait until the offseason to see if they could simply sign him then. Sixers center Spencer Hawes and Young are also frequently mentioned as trade possibilities.

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    If Manu isn't injured, he could take turns with Green, Belinelli to backup Leonard.
    If Spurs add a quality SF and stay healthy, I would expect to see them playing a lot of small ball with Kawhi at PF.

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    What's Turner going to get in free agency? 3 years, 24 million? Or is he going to get Tyreke Evans money? If the Spurs were willing give up a first round pick for him, you'd think they'd have to be considering resigning him. Would they really pay what he's going to get?

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    What's Turner going to get in free agency? 3 years, 24 million? Or is he going to get Tyreke Evans money? If the Spurs were willing give up a first round pick for him, you'd think they'd have to be considering resigning him. Would they really pay what he's going to get?
    If they feel he can replace Ginobili as sixth man after next year, anything shy of $10 Million would be all right. But he's not really worth much as a starter, as he can't play with Leonard. I just don't like him, and I wouldn't wamt him for anything more than the MLE.

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    If they feel he can replace Ginobili as sixth man after next year, anything shy of $10 Million would be all right. But he's not really worth much as a starter, as he can't play with Leonard. I just don't like him, and I wouldn't wamt him for anything more than the MLE.
    I agree that without much of a three point shot, Turner isn't ideal. On the other hand, I do think he would improve the team. There aren't a lot of players out there available for what the Spurs have to offer that I could say the same for (assuming he's actually available for expiring contracts and a pick). I can't imagine the Spurs being willing to pay him $10 million this summer. Still, I think this is a year when the Spurs should take a risk.

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    Spurs need a thad young more then a turner tbh

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    Turner is going to get paid by someone...he is already making $6.7 mil...with a qualifying offer of $8.7 mil next year.....even with a minimum raise he's gonna get a bump....I would be shocked if he takes anything less than $10mil to $11mil.

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    Yeah, someone will give him 4 years at 10 mil per. Probably the Bucks. They are so stupid with their money.

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    Spurs need a thad young more then a turner tbh
    Thats true, but unfortunately they will end up with neither one of them or a super poor mans version.

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    I agree that without much of a three point shot, Turner isn't ideal. On the other hand, I do think he would improve the team. There aren't a lot of players out there available for what the Spurs have to offer that I could say the same for (assuming he's actually available for expiring contracts and a pick). I can't imagine the Spurs being willing to pay him $10 million this summer. Still, I think this is a year when the Spurs should take a risk.
    He's not a $10 Million player, so that shouldn't concern you too much. He'd have to play really well to even get what DeRozan got from Toronto. I was just saying that an elite sixth man in his prime is worth eight figures, especially if he has the size to play three positions.

    I would have been in favor of trading for him last off-season before the team got Beli. Now, I don't really see Turner as a plus player in the second unit because he needs the ball in his hands and he wouldn't get it enough. He's also inefficient and a poor defender. His overall value is much less than that of a guy like Wilson Chandler, or even Thad Young.

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    Bonner + Beli for Dudley + 2014 first

    I really want another first at this point.

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    Turner is going to get paid by someone...he is already making $6.7 mil...with a qualifying offer of $8.7 mil next year.....even with a minimum raise he's gonna get a bump....I would be shocked if he takes anything less than $10mil to $11mil.
    I think he's getting a one-year deal around his QO or a long-term deal at about the full MLE. He's no where near the class of Evans or Holliday.

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    Turner is going to get paid by someone...he is already making $6.7 mil...with a qualifying offer of $8.7 mil next year.....even with a minimum raise he's gonna get a bump....I would be shocked if he takes anything less than $10mil to $11mil.
    I think he's getting a one-year deal around his QO or a long-term deal at about the full MLE. He's no where near the class of Evans or Holliday.

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    Turner sucks on D and doesn't space the floor, I don't see how he would help at all, rather take Eric Gordon if we're going for a dynamic scorer to replace Manu, at least he can shoot it.

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    His overall value is much less than that of a guy like Wilson Chandler, or even Thad Young.
    I agree. I just question whether the Spurs actually have a shot at Chandler or Young offering expiring contracts and a pick. If they don't, I'd be okay with trying for Turner.

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    Another idea :

    Beli + Bonner + one of Mills/Cojo for Porter + Vesely

    Fills basically all the needs of the Wizz who are struggling to get over .500 in an year where they went all-in by trading their first rounder... A stretch 4 Wall has been asking forever, a dynamic 2 who is much needed with Beal struggling and a good backup PG so that Wall doesn't have to play 48min...

    Vesely is only there to make the numbers work (and because I'm kinda obsessed with this scrub yes)

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    "team President Flip Saunders is well aware that missing the playoffs for a seventh consecutive season would certainly not help his campaign to keep him in town. Translation: The T'wolves should be on the personnel prowl. Among their players thought to be available are point guard J.J. Barea, forward Dante Cunningham and guard Alexey Shved."

    -USA Today

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...rondo/5295879/

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