well, whatever happens, at 15 the Spurs would be in another dimension taking about possibilities. I agree that the best Sfs will likely be gone, but there is a small chance for a Danny Granger scenario involving Jeff Green or Corey Brewer.
(especially if some of the bigs impress ot the workouts. like Smith and McRoberts.)
but even if there wasn't one of the mentioned, why focus on getting a SF. just get the best player available and either put him on the team, or use him as the kind of trade bait we usually lack.(for getting a SF)
btw. I would give Scola + the #28 pick for the #15 pick.
For me, it depends on who's still there.
If Green is still there, yes. Whatever it takes. If Brewer is still there, OMG DON'T WAIT, DO IT.
But I see only an outside chance Green tumbles a bit. If they could get him - and IF Detroit wants Scola - I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm not sure Detroit wouldn't take Green first.
1st off yi will not be around by #9 and are the bulls going to wait 2-3 years for hawes to possibly develop into a pro type big man. Scola has experience playing in a professional league and has seperated himself as one of league's best inside players. If the bulls got him and/or butler at #9 and used the Spurs #28 pick on say aaron gray I would say that this would improve there inside game. No way Hawes is that much better gray.
green or brewer are only dreams for us i think
the question is'nt wich team will look at scola or someone else on our roster but if the spurs will do something to have a better first round pick ???
from what we saw in the past years they don't trade a lot of times for rookies but i know this draft is deep
So i don't see a lot of teams trading away their pick between the first and the 15-20 choices except for a very good player like Z-Bo but not for Scola
Yes, it's not worth discussing Green or esp. Brewer.green or brewer are only dreams for us i think
the question is'nt wich team will look at scola or someone else on our roster but if the spurs will do something to have a better first round pick ???
from what we saw in the past years they don't trade a lot of times for rookies but i know this draft is deep
So i don't see a lot of teams trading away their pick between the first and the 15-20 choices except for a very good player like Z-Bo but not for Scola
But all things considered, I'd rather have Scola than Zach Randolph. Randolph is overpaid for too many years, has character issues, and has put up stats on a weak team (they'll go down once next to Oden). He also appears to have little effect on wins vs. losses, i.e. he just puts up stats, that's it.
I was wondering who had gotten the first pick in the 2029 draft yet.
My figuring is that will be the year that Tim's son will be eligible, if he hasn't signed by now...
I got dibs on being his agent, so all inquiries regarding the signing of that fetus should be directed to me.
so hypothetically, what Spurs assets would Greg Oden be worth. excluding the big 3?
I'm not talking about a trade here just a comparing of values, put Oden on one side of the scale, and what do you think it would take from the Spurs to balance it out?
its still a long time till game 1 so I started pondering this
I would say he's worth at least the rights to all of our foreign players + 7 future first round picks, top 3 protected.
mmmmmm twin towers 2.0
I think hes worth at least Duncan right now. Why? Because on draft night every player is a potential star. And Oden has had that working in his favor for a long time before draft night. People are already sold on him. People believe that Oden will bring a championship to wherever he goes. Of course, Duncan is the same way...just older. But he has already proven his pedigree.
I would certainly take a trade of #28 and Scola upwards for #15. Even if gree/brewer weren't available. McRoberts almost assuredly would be, and I think it would be worth it. I have stated before, that I would be very happy with a trade up for McRoberts; I think he is almost the ideal complimentary big next to Tim. I would also look at trades with Washington, (#16 I believe), NJ (#17). Both those teams are likely looking for PF help; Scola is much more developed than a college player, and will therefore provide immediate help (which both teams might be looking for, NJ and WAS want to win now; I am not so sure about Detroit - they might decide to fully rebuild).
Upon reflection, I can't imagine Detroit gives up the #15, especially if Acie Law is there.
I don't see teams with 4 PFs like Detroit (Wallace, McDyess, Maxiell and Johnson) or Washington (Jamison, Songaila, Blatche, Pecherov) being interested in Scola.
McDyess could be on the way out. Scola would be better than one or both of Maxiell/Johnson, Rasheed is not a post player.
Jamison is a SF/PF tweener, Blatche is nothing, Pecherov is not on the team.
That said, I don't see Wash. pulling for Scola, nor do I really see Detroit, either.
Jamison plays mainly PF.
Blatche is a good prospect.
Pecherov will sign with Washington this summer.
McDyess isn't gone for the moment.
Maxiell has been quite good.
Detroit is really high on Johnson.
I see the sixers and the bobcats being real possibilities as well!!both have mutliple picks in the 1st..
I don't think a single guy you mentioned is a post player. They're all jump-shooters.
Jamison plays mainly PF.
Blatche is a good prospect.
Pecherov will sign with Washington this summer.
McDyess isn't gone for the moment.
Maxiell has been quite good.
Detroit is really high on Johnson.
And please on Blatche and Pecherov. Especially Blatche.
I've long thought of Philadelphia, but I don't think they've discovered foreign players yet. They think Dalembert is from down south somewhere.
Jamison is def. a SF and jump shooter. Not sure about the other 2
First : all teams don't want to have a low post scoring PF. NBA's MVP is a jump shooting PF.
Second : Jamison and Wallace are good low post scorer. Maxiell isn't at all a jump shooter.
Blatche is a very good prospect, great upside. Even if you remove Blatche and Pecherov, Wizards have 2 quality PFs with Jamison and Songaila : it's way enough.
Again, I don't think Detroit or Washington want him, but Jamison is more of a perimeter player, as is Wallace, although they will post from time to time (Wallace unsuccessfully against Cleveland).
Talking about Blatche and Pecherov is overstating the case, and we need to see if Songaila can get healthy.
Talking about Blatche and Pecherov isn't overstating.
Do you know a lot of tems with 4 starting level PFs ?
Both Detroit and Washington have :
- A good starting PF.
- A good backup PF.
- good third string PFs.
They don't need at all a PF. I can even see them trading one.
And Songaila has been heathly since February.
Detroit might be blowing up that frontline a bit this summer. The Wiz could get another good big man with their first rounder.
Measurements and combine results :
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindbla...%20Results.xls
the question is wich team will give you a mid first round for scola ?? probably any
this draft will be huge so i don't see a team trading a high pick except for others good picks or very good player
Randolph is just an example he have more value than scola now ........and he put good numbers last year so some teams may want him
We're sitting here talking about who we think the Spurs will draft while not fully fleshing out some of the more obvious details. Obviously the players that we pick will be dependent on how many roster spots we have available. The notable players that will likely be moved are obviously Barry, Udrih and Elson. But how will we move them?
I have been looking at several teams that could be in the market and I've been trying to figure out how to discard multiple players without taking much back in return.
Obviously we could probably deal Udrih for a future second round pick without too much difficulty. Especially to a team like the Clippers or Bobcats that could be in the market for a backup PG and (in the Bobcats case) are under the cap and nurturing youth. Udrih will likely be included in a larger deal though that will include either Elson or Barry (or both).
Barry could be sent to a team like the Clippers that are craving 3 point shooting as well as PG play. Obviously the Barry/Beno for Maggette trade should at least be revisited...but its likely dead. Hes a good vet on an expiring deal which gives him reasonable value. Another team that might have some interest is the Nuggets or Jazz. Utah is hurting for 3 point shooting and quality play at the 2 guard. The Nuggets are in the same position, but they are also trying to trim payroll. An expiring deal like Barry's would make sense for them.
Elson could be sent to a team looking for frontcourt help an especially one in need of athleticism. Also, Elson's deal is an expiring one, which gives him added value. Elson and Barry could be coupled much like Erik Williams and Matt Bonner were to acquire one more highly paid vet while the other team is mostly buying cap relief in a year. An ironic trade would send Barry and Elson to the Nuggets for Camby. However...I don't see that one flying in Denver. The teams off the top of my head that need frontcourt help include the Wizards and Nets, although I'm not sure if they have interest in Elson.
Any bright ideas?
So Jared Jordan can't jump and has alligator arms but is quite quick.
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