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I guess. As far as we've struggled this year, it will be worse next if we don't get an injection of youth and talent. (I don't see Butler or White as having a future with the team - just me.)
The Spurs do most likely have Barry and Finley for the next year, so while it wouldn't be preferrable to draft a guy with the first pick just to leave him overseas, I think it's a viable option if that guy is Rudy/Marco.
I guess. As far as we've struggled this year, it will be worse next if we don't get an injection of youth and talent. (I don't see Butler or White as having a future with the team - just me.)
See Im really not sure about either, just because I havent seen them play.
I think both Butler and White get unfair criticism levied on them, but I don't know if they're with this team next year either. I think it will depend on who is brought in this offseason.
If the Spurs draft Alando Tucker, who I think compares to White but with a better inside game, then I don't see the Spurs holding on to White.
If the Spurs bring Scola AND Mahinmi over, I think Butler will get a fair shake but could be traded.
I'm not sure how likely it is that either or both of those things happen, so I'll say that Butler and White will have a chance to prove themselves in the summer league.
I'm watching Georgetown-Notre Dame right now and there's no doubt in my mind the Spurs should do whatever they can to move up and get Jeff Green. He's my guy.
Do we still have a chance to collect the Bulls pick?
Currently the Bulls are 9th overall - I noticed draftexpress.com still had Portland receiving the pick...
Also did we trade any picks in the Eric William - Melvin Ely trade?
Charlotte got a 2009 2nd round pick from us. I believe that's the one we got from Toronto and used to belong to New Orleans, so about the middle of the pack.
The Chicago pick this year is top 51 protected, so it needs to be 52 or higher. If that truly is the case, then that pick should be listed as ours on nbadraft.
Hmm ok maybe there across it then, the pick is currently 51st so the Blazers would receive it.
Go Bulls then I guess.
I went to Draft Express and checked the top rated college seniors for SFs.
I eliminated any SFs such as Thornton who were rated above #20 which got rid of Byars, Rayshawn Terry, Demetris Nichols, etc who probably won't be there when we draft although a rash of underclassmen coming out could change that some.
I also elininated anyone below 6'8" because they always wind up to be 6'6" (but with long wingspan so they play taller: where have we heard that canard before)
At #22 I found Muhamad Akubar from San Diego State (6'10") and Cartier Martin at 44(KState 6'8")
That's about it for our long 3 rookie prospects.
Does anyone know anything about these two guys. There isn't much current stuff on the site--which may tell you more than a full profile.
Every single one of those guys will still be around with our pick. They're all projected as 2nd rounders.
Edited: I just went to figure out what you were doing... Why do you think teams are only allowed to draft seniors? A number of underclassmen SFs are expected to come out. Durant, Julian Wright, maybe Thaddeus Young, Corey Brewer, and Jeff Green.
Last edited by Mr. Body; 03-10-2007 at 12:15 AM.
I qualified my post with this: "...although a rash of underclassmen coming out could change that some.
Obviously if 20 better underclassmen and Euros come into the draft, then some of these guys may drop into our range. But from what I read, Thornton is completely out of the question at our pick.
By the way, I used the Draft Express search function for a SF from 6'8' to 6'10" with athleticism, rebounder, and shooting skills who was guaranteed to be in the 2007 draft. Turned out there was no one with that profile. Overstocked with PFs for this draft.
So while the draft will be deep this year, the dreamed of long 3 might not be in the mix at our draft spot. But I hope you're right and I'm wrong.
Corey Brewer is coming out. Durant and Green probably will. Thaddeus Young and Julian Wright may. There are quite a few underclassmen at every other position who will come out, too, including two of Brewer's teammates. This won't be a 'rash of underclassmen'; like every year it will be a gout. True, some of the guys projected to come out in some mocks, like Spencer Hawes, I see as likely to stay for another year. True, Al Thornton will not be available late in the round.
Who WILL be available late in the round are the Dudleys, the Reyshawn Terrys, the Demetrius Nichols, Byars, Cartier Martin, and the guy from San Diego State. Most of them will still be available with the Milwaukee pick.
I don't think anybody expects the answer at #28. Certainly not a long, athletic, rebounding three. If they want a Jeff Green, they have to trade up to get him. If they want a TRUE, excellent replacement for Bowen, they need to trade up to get him. But what is exciting about this draft is that even failing to trade up in a substantial way, there will be some nice players still available so late. They won't fit the precise desire, but they'll at least be nice bench players and help us there.
some mocks have Rudy going ahead of Marco, others have Marco first. but all have both picked somewhere between 15 and 25.
I agree, that Rudy should be picked ahead of Marco, if I had the choice, I would do it.
maybe the fact, that Rudy has a contract till 2008 and likely won't be able to manage his buyout this year is the reason why he is sometimes ranked lower than Marco. (his contract status I don't know, but I didn't read about a buyout)
Marco isn't bigger than Rudy, they are almost exactly the same. Rudy has bulked up a bit. I think Rudy is the more special player with more qualities (rebounding and passing), he's the better defender and a bit more athletic.
Marco's jump shot looks better than Rudy's, but I can't find another category where I would rank him higher.
a reaso why Marco is ranked higher than some would rank him (like me) might be, that 5 years ago, when he played his first euroleague season at only 16 and showed some nice games, he was hyped as a wunderkind. (like Rubio this year). he did improve since then, but back then some thought he will be a top 5 pick when he declares. remember Rodriguez? he was also expected to be a top 5 pick when he dominated the European youth compe ions, but fell to no. 27 last draft. many 2006 mocks had him still higher, I guess they just remembered also all the hype some years back.
anyhow, I do think that Belinelli is a 1st round talent, but other than Fernandez (who I would pick he he was there), Spurs shouldn't take him if he fell to their pick. I would still prefer one of the many college SFs, who will be still on the board.
if he would fall till the Bucks 2nd rounder, he would be a no-brainer, if the Spurs have already picked the SF I was talking about.
that is not very likely, but something like this happens every year.
I don't think the Spurs should bother drafting someone with their first pick who has to stay abroad due to contract or whatever. Fernandez has a buyout, I think, but it's not too bad.
ESPN Top 100 rated Rudy ahead of Marco for the first time all year, but take that for what it's worth. They also rated Chase Budinger, Nick Young, Rodney Stuckey, Morris Almond, and Dequan Cook ahead of them both. I think there is more than enough potential talent in this draft for a guy like Fernandez to fall (especially with a buyout concern), but it will ultimately come down to which players impress which individual GMs....this draft is deep on similarly talented players.
The more I read about and see of Derrick Byars, the more I think this is the guy. 6-7 senior from Vandy, athletic, decent defender, can shoot and handle the rock. In fact, Im calling my shot right now, if he is there (which Im sure he will be), this will be our guy next year
Can we start a list of draft websites? I know of a few, just seeing if there are any other reputable ones.
I like nbadraft.net a lot
Not sure about Byars b/c I've never actually seen him play, which is odd because living in Georgia I catch alot of SEC action. Then again, I've never seen McGuire play, so I can't exactly champion one guy and dog on the other....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ4R-U65xcM
Byars highlight reel, I absolutely love this kid
I was just reading up on the TON of PF in this draft. Whether or not the Spurs snag one of these guys, they'll probably be "buy low" kind of players, or at least force some of the other 3s to drop...
Doesn't Byars project more as a SG? He's listed as 6'7", which is a tiny bit short for our needs, although it matches Bowen. I'm looking at his profiles. I know Vandy upset Florida. Strangely enough DX has him near the end of the 2nd round. Seems a bit late. Everything will change in the Tournament and their sub-bracket looks a little weak.
... uh, I just noticed he wears a headband. So, no.
We need to get gangsta Body, dont ya know?Doesn't Byars project more as a SG? He's listed as 6'7", which is a tiny bit short for our needs, although it matches Bowen. I'm looking at his profiles. I know Vandy upset Florida. Strangely enough DX has him near the end of the 2nd round. Seems a bit late. Everything will change in the Tournament and their sub-bracket looks a little weak.
... uh, I just noticed he wears a headband. So, no.
Nbadraft.net has him late in the first, but your right, many draft sites have him lower, but I still think he would be the for us.
Doesn't James White wear a headband as well? Doomed from the beginning...Doesn't Byars project more as a SG? He's listed as 6'7", which is a tiny bit short for our needs, although it matches Bowen. I'm looking at his profiles. I know Vandy upset Florida. Strangely enough DX has him near the end of the 2nd round. Seems a bit late. Everything will change in the Tournament and their sub-bracket looks a little weak.
... uh, I just noticed he wears a headband. So, no.
He's listed as the 21st SF in the draft by ESPN. Then again, alot can change in the tourney (as you said) and some of the individuals listed may not come out.Doesn't Byars project more as a SG? He's listed as 6'7", which is a tiny bit short for our needs, although it matches Bowen. I'm looking at his profiles. I know Vandy upset Florida. Strangely enough DX has him near the end of the 2nd round. Seems a bit late. Everything will change in the Tournament and their sub-bracket looks a little weak.
... uh, I just noticed he wears a headband. So, no.
Guys like Reyshawn Terry, Cartier Martin, Nichols, Dudley are all ahead of him on that list...
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