yes...but hey...noone can offer him even close to what he wants...why pay a guy 5 years for 50 mill...the Lakers offered him 30 mill for 3 years....isnt that fair enough? What is there to argue about?!
No you get into long and pointless arguments with everyone. You never shutup.No not really, it is just fun to needle him like always. He is the only one I really go after. Just like when I say second place is the first loser
The only time I get into long arguments really is with him (except with Allanon, but at least those are usually basketball related)
By the word "we're" do you mean YOU are?
also in Miami there is no taxes
Exactly. We are trying to explain why his argument is so myopic.
I think that was fair. But I guess Lamar does not. But the argument was about letting the market set the value, which is not always true, especially in this crazy economy.
That would be you. This is called a discussion. Not like I am talking to myself. Evidently you keep responding and so do others, so the market has decided my comments have value. Let the market decide the value. If people respond (like you...) then the market will prevail!
Lakers need to pony up if they want to have a chance next year, the cheap-ass and thrifty Spurs are paying like $14 mill for their fourth option...why cant the godly Lakers pay $10 mill or add another year at $9 mill?
Lets be honest here Laker fans, without Odom the Lakers bench is trash...Vujabtch, Farmar, and Walton have all fallen on their face. And guys like Powe and Mbenga are just trash. Lakers would have to play the starters 45 mpg in the playoffs to stand a chance against the top contenders. Who is this Drew guy btw, that supposedly is ready to be an all-star and who will take some of Odom's minutes if he comes back?
With RJ in San Antonio...There will be alot more 4 to 1 ass pounding.
Neither do you...
you're right but it's still a non sense, it's like putting emotion while playing poker it's stupid.
I think what people are missing here is that the reason LO is holding out for more money is because players of lesser to equal caliber are getting 5 yr 50 mil deals.
Let's be honest if varejao and turkgolu was getting 7 mil 4 years, we all know odom wouldn't be complaining and would jump at 4 year 36 easy.
Basically, there is no policy, no formula on deciding the worth of a player other than market comparison, and Odom and his agent did exactly that, they probably compared stats, impact in game, and the fact that he is in his prime PLUS compared him and other players similar players and the contract or pay they were getting.
BUSS on the other hand, expects LO and his agent to cover up for his pass contract mistakes, namely walton, sasha and morrison and probably didn't really consider LO's true worth.
In the end it's a test of wills, Buss wanting to be a badass to prove a point, and to show that he's not going to overpay anyone not named bynum anymore, and LO wanting to show that for his contributions and his skills, he should be paying more.
I guarantee if miami had 10 mil to throw aroudn, they would offer that to LO in a heartbeat without bothering to renegotiate.
Also another thing, we all know Bynum's going to be a buss, i mean bust, so it's almost an inevitability that Odom is going to be playing more mins than bynum for the whole season.
I think Lamar like Miami though, Pat, Wade and the entire family.
Its simple...
Wade is a better teammate than Kobe.
Odom already has a ring.
The Heat are a classier organization.
Odom is tired of being Phil's whipping boy. He is a ing moron sometimes and would rather be on a team with no expectations so that he won't be mentally scolded for his passivity.
i love it....conclusion.....odom has a ring and rather lose now to have a better teammate.
The Lakers potentially lose two of their top contributors for the championship run to other teams for equal or less money and the players are the dumb ones?
News flash: You should have just paid Shaq.
When will everyone realize that playing with Kobe sucks balls? When will everyone realize that LA is a smog-choked -hole filled with Hollywood d-bags and plastic women that's not a great place to play? D-wade and company would welcome Odom with open arms and APPRECIATE what he has to offer. Add in the lower tax-rate (and no state income tax), lower cost of living, and it makes good sense. The Heat could then go after another quality forward and they are right back in the le conversation. Laker fans and FO should start to look inward. Obviously there is something wrong with your overly-dramatic franchise. LOL, you get Ron-Ron and lose Odom(hypothetically) and Ariza. Ronny will probably be beating some woman by the All-star break, or neglecting/abusing his animals, or smoking crack in an alleyway on Hollywood boulevard. Luke Walton will be getting another y tattoo while Farmar is picking up Chinese AM stations with those ears.Your coach is an overrated prima-donna. Artest will blow away any vestiges of team chemistry while throwing up 30 footers 4 seconds into the shot clock, thereby pissing off Kobe. Bynum will inevitably get hurt again, leaving Gasol/Bryant as the only real reliable players. Vujacic will be busy fluffing/teasing his hair. Without Odom your bench is , and so is your season. You Laker fans better get down on your knees...Wait, you already are. You Laker fans better start praying that he comes back because your season is over without him.
Some NBA players that once an NBA le has been won feel like that is a huge accomplishment and chose to move on. Perhaps Ariza and Odom have that feeling of satisfaction and are looking to sign elsewhere. Who knows.
Not all NBA players are monstrous hungry pitbulls like Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, those guys wanted the championship every year and were driven.
Some players are happy winning it all once.
dude STFU. Yes Kobe is selfish with the ball. Yes he tries to due everything. BUT AT TIMES HE CAN!!! KOBE IS A TOP 15 (prob top 10, can't be bothered to really think it out) PLAYER ALL TIME.
Is playing with Kobe the best thing in the league? no. Is it a bad thing? no because he gives you a chance to win every game.
he might as well sign with cleveland now and have a shot at a ring
miami aint going anywhere
Dude, I saw someone win 500K on Poker Stars in like 2 hours. It was crazy. It was a room of pro's in the real money room. I do not think it was staged or anything. It was 500/1000 limit poker or something crazy.
Point is losing Ariza will probably not hurt because no question Artest is the better player, especially for the same money. There are some question marks with regards to fit, but should not be a problem with the Lakers talent.
Odom is a different story because as things stand now, there is no one that can make up the difference. Odom gave the Lakers sick depth.
But none of this makes enough sense to see LO leaving, unless there were some inside problems to begin with.
I know what u mean. I lost 5K because of emotion one year ago, a guy begun a trash talking work, I was so pissed that next hand I go wild and put an all in with AK just to shut up the guy, of course he won the hand (2 Q).
Its no secret that Lamar Odom got the most and flack from Phil Jackson out of anyone else on the Lakers squad (google the Jimmy Kimmel interview with the Lakers, Kobe said it).
That probably had to do something with him moving on not to mention that he's got his ring now.
I said this a long time ago.
Lamar Odom is coming back to Miami.
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