Bob Hill deserves some credit for the the worst record in team history. The Spurs went an impessive 3-15 before pop fired his ass. Pop went 17-47.
Explain the relevance Spurm...it goes over my head.
I think you are saying that I am giving Phil too much credit and that he had talent as well...
We swept LA in 98-99...
They added Phil Jackson and the next season and won 67 games and became NBA champions...
The scoreboard reads:
Phil Jackson - 9 rings, 3 without Pippen and Jordan, 6 without Kobe and Shaq
Shaq and Kobe - 3 rings, none without Phil Jackson
Pippen and Jordan - 6 rings, none without Phil Jackson
What is overlooked is that those les all had other guys step up and hit championship swinging shots...
John Paxon
Steve Kerr
Brian Shaw
Robert Horry
Derek Fisher
And so on and so forth...Phil Jackson was the guy who made the correct call to give those guys the chance to hit those shots.
He's a great coach...his teams never lack confidence, ever.
Yes he's had talent...and yes he's done what you are supposed to do with talent...win les, every year he's had that talent except for 3 years out of 12.
Del Harris couldn't do it...Neither could Doug Collins...
I can't speak for Spurm, but maybe he's pointing out a slight inconsistency in your argument. That is, you imply that Pop is not a great coach, but then you say he's second only to Phil.
That's a pretty high compliment, if I'm reading you correctly!
Show me where I said Pop wasn't a great coach?
Being critical does not mean I think he sucks...
I just don't think he's the embodiment of perfection and beyond questioning...
I know he's not when it comes to offense. I think I understand more about offense than he does. He's not good at it...
Well, I said you implied it, but these certainly don't make Pop sound great:
Are you saying these are compliments?!?
Ahh, never mind I guess I can see these as "criticisms."
Anyway, what the are we arguing about? We both agree Pop is one of the best current coaches in the playoffs. Correct?
I also said this:
Pop the GM is a genius(I can say this inspite of my criticism of the Malik trade because Pop himself has admitted the trade was for financial reasons, not talent or to improve our le chances)Pop the coach is another thing entirely...he's probably one of the greatest defensive minds ever...
But as an offensive coach? He is a ing moron. He doesn't like or respect the offensive side of the game.
See I basically say one negative thing about him and that's what gets pounced on...
And he did coach the team to the worst record in history...I happen to think it was deliberate...if it wasn't then he sucked(and so does AJ)...pick your poison....
The thing is...if I say it happened because he sucked I get pounced...and if I say it was deliberate I get pounced on...
It's got to be one or the other...You can't have it both ways...and the refusal to acknowledge that....That's called Popsucking....he's not perfect, I think his strenghts and flaws are very obvious.
He traded Steve Kerr and it took media callouts and Tim Duncan to get him to put Kerr in the game the year we won the le.
Evidently we don't...evidently a great number of us think George Karl is better...
A great number of us seem to think that in half a season Karl can forge a team with less talent, and a worse work ethic and at ude than the Spurs, into a team capable of beating the Spurs on the road.
And if does turn out to be true then most certainly Karl>>>>>>>>>>>>Pop...and those that fear Denver will be right.
Well, hold on. Even IF the Nuggets beat us (and I've never thought they really could), then it'll be more than just Pop's fault. It will also be because Tim is hurting, Manu is tired, Tony is playing crappy, or a dozen other events i can imagine.*
Now, Pop can't be held accountable for all that, can he?
In any case, I think Avery Johnson and D'Antoni are better coaches than Karl...
*Please don't mis-understand me. I'm not saying these things WILL happen. Just imagining "worse case" scenarios.
A hurting Duncan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Melo+Camby
Manu won't be tired when the playoffs begin.Manu is tired,
Karl had 15 guys that were playing crappy and got them all turned around...that won't be a good enough excuse.Tony is playing crappy,
There's nothing wrong with us that isn't also wrong with the Nuggets...Carmelo also played international ball this summer.or a dozen other events i can imagine.*
We have the more talented and experienced team and we also have HCA.
A coach's job is to instill confidence in his team and prepare them to play...Now, Pop can't be held accountable for all that, can he?
There is no way we lose this series(with no further injuries) if Pop does his job. No way.
Pop's defensive coaching is brilliant. It's the offense I have a problem with.
If Pop could find his own Tex Winter to run the Spurs offense (I still hold out hope that we'll tap the Argentinian coaching staff for this) we'd probably win 6-7 les straight.
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