This is what you come back with? Is that all you could think of?
Heh. A Dallas fan pointing to regular season evidence.
Heh heh.
This is what you come back with? Is that all you could think of?
When in doubt, bring up the "lol ringless fan talking about the regular season" argument.
He is the same player basically. A bit younger, motivated to prove himself after a trade. Not a huge a upgrade in production to get your hard about.
Ghazi did. Then your butt started to hurt.
Not really. Damp is out and doesn't give a . Haywood essentially replacing him. Butler replaces Ho's production from previous years - he still remains an ineffcient player that takes way too many longg jumpshots and couldn't get Washington anywhere despite playing with Jamison/Gilbert.
You actually think Dallas is beating Denver now because of the trade? How does this change anything.
Erica Dampier and Brenda Haywood. I'm sure the West is shaking in their Nikes.
I'm really proud of 21_dip s learning how to make trolls!
to say that there isnt hope this year is kind of ridiculous. the lakers arent as far ahead of everyone as people think. keep in mind, they were taken to 7 games by a Yao-less Rocket team last year with quite a few of their key players having no playoff experience. aside from one game this year, every game the mavs and lakers have played has been a tight game down to the final couple minutes, and this mavericks team is FAR improved from those days, and still is getting better. they most definitely can compete for a championship and even dethrone the lakers, especially after they get Dampier back. they might even be the best compe ion the Lakers have now, with the size to match up, the nightmare that Dirk always is for them, and a guy who can actually make Kobe work on both ends (Butler).
this is english but still fails to make much sense, IMHO.
If you consider it fun fawning to ponce's re ed viewpoints, you're more than welcome to do so.
Don't be daft. Haywood isn't even a top 5 center in the west. Damn good player and definitely worth his contract but not the best out west.
Not everyone, but they are far ahead of the mavs as everyone thinks.
Do you not understand the way salary cap works? Saving a few dollars in luxury tax or whatever doesn't affect the ability to pull off future trades. As long as a team is over the salary cap, which we are well over, the players salaries sent out have to match the ones coming in, or at least be within 20%. We still would have pulled off the Butler trade without giving up Humphries. I don't know what would possess you to care so much about Cuban's wallet. I'm a Mav fan not a Cuban's wallet fan.
Wow, he played one ing game. Way to pick out such a minute detail out of an entire paragraph, what a straw man. Doesn't change the fact that Cuban keeps lot's of things under raps and some of the events that have happened this season don't really add up. Just like we never knew it at the time when Josh missed a game due to a hangover, we all thought he was injured.
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How's Houston doing this year, rocketfan?
Yeah, he's the same player alright. Better hands, more of an offensive threat, more athletic, runs the floor better, better finisher at the rim, more active when challenging shots. Other than, yeah, the exact same player.
Haywood is better than Gooden, Butler is better than Howard, and Stevenson is better than both Ross and Singleton, so yeah, Dallas didn't improve at all from the trade.Not really. Damp is out and doesn't give a . Haywood essentially replacing him. Butler replaces Ho's production from previous years - he still remains an ineffcient player that takes way too many longg jumpshots and couldn't get Washington anywhere despite playing with Jamison/Gilbert.
They get two centers for 48 minutes instead of Dampier for 30 minutes and Dirk/Najera/Drew Gooden protecting the paint for the other 18 minutes. Howard had completely quit on the Mavs, whereas Butler has not. Yeah, you're right, changes nothing. I don't know if they beat Denver or not in a seven-game series, but it wasn't possible before the trade and it is now.You actually think Dallas is beating Denver now because of the trade? How does this change anything.
.Erica Dampier and Brenda Haywood. I'm sure the West is shaking in their Nikes
At least one person believes the Mavs’ impending Caron Butler/Brendan Haywood acquisition puts Dallas “on par’’ with Kobe Bryant’s Lakers.
That person? Kobe Bryant of the Lakers.
“No question,’’ Kobe said Saturday when asked whether the trade moves the Mavs to the Lakers’ level. “I hate to say it, but it's true. … Trust me, I don't like it by any stretch of the imagination. But it's a great move by (Dallas). It pains me to say it. But you guys made two great pickups.’’
Kobe had more to say: “They get length with Haywood, obviously. That's one of our strengths, but … Caron at both ends of the floor plays extremely hard, unselfishly and tough. So you know pains me to say but you guys made two great pickups.’’
Dallas isn't beating the Lakers this year, but only a dumbass would dispute that getting another 7-footer in Haywood doesn't help them deal with the Laker frontline.
What is this choad's rationale? That unless the Mavs could pick up Chris Bosh or Joe Johnson for nothing but draft picks and cap space, they should've stood pat since the Butler/Haywood acquisition doesn't vault them past the Lakers?
It faults us pretty close though TBH. This team looks more and more solid with each game played together. I can see them really gelling nicely and becoming a force. I wasn't a huge advocate for Caron Butler in the beginning, but throwing in Haywood and even Stevenson to a lesser extent really changed things. Our defense is looking badass right now.
I'd retaliate by going back and bumping every thread where Spur Fan blew his load over how awesome the Jefferson trade was, but that would take hours.
What a scrub he has become. Not helping the defense at all. I think a lot of it has to do with laziness which annoys me.
the funny thing is Haywood unlike Damp can catch passes but he pumpfakes so much that he gets the ball swatted probably more often than Damp fumbles a pass.
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