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    Why do you keep sucking his ? If you people are whining about his PT in multiple threads, expect responses.
    This is only Malik's second season. It is natural for him to make mistakes and he will play better and correct those mistakes. Why? Because he has great upside, unlike Bogans and Mason who make the same mistakes but unfortunately have already hit their ceiling. I expect somebody of your expertise to already know this. Also your graphic comment means you know I am right.

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    As a coach, your job is to put players in a situation to succeed. If you put them in that type of situation and they fail, that is on them.

    What Pop did to Malik is not that. Putting RJ on Amare is not that. If Malik was good enough defensively to guard Nash on that possession, why was that the only time he got?
    I may be wrong on this one, but I recall Hill starting out on Nash on the out of bounds play and Hairston ending up on Nash due to switching. Hence my confusion at all the attention Hairston's getting for this one play.

    I'll agree with Jefferson on Amare being a bit of a head-scratcher, though.

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    I'd rather take 8pts, 5 boards, 1blk/steal from Hairston in 17 minutes (something he could reasonably average with how he attacks the basket and rebounds) then Bogans who rarely scores over 9 pts, has too many 0 pt nights as a starter, shoots too many 3's when he can't hit them instead of attacking the basket with starter type minutes

    Now tell me who would be better, and again Hairston hustles much more (look at the save in the Houston game) and can rebound/jump higher then Bogans.

    Plus Hairston has a better chance of getting a player/players into foul trouble with his driving ability, something Bogans can't.

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    I may be wrong on this one, but I recall Hill starting out on Nash on the out of bounds play and Hairston ending up on Nash due to switching. Hence my confusion at all the attention Hairston's getting for this one play.

    I'll agree with Jefferson on Amare being a bit of a head-scratcher, though.
    Doesn't matter who started out where though. Point is, why is Malik good enough to be in there during that part of the game and no other?

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    I'd rather take 8pts, 5 boards, 1blk/steal from Hairston in 17 minutes (something he could reasonably average with how he attacks the basket and rebounds) then Bogans who rarely scores over 9 pts, has too many 0 pt nights as a starter, shoots too many 3's when he can't hit them instead of attacking the basket with starter type minutes

    Now tell me who would be better, and again Hairston hustles much more (look at the save in the Houston game) and can rebound/jump higher then Bogans.

    Plus Hairston has a better chance of getting a player/players into foul trouble with his driving ability, something Bogans can't.
    But Hairston made a boo-boo in 45 seconds of play today, while Bogans hasn't put a foot wrong in the last 10 games. Every brick and every turnover by Bogans has high-IQ written all over it.

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    i don't see what mistake you guys are claiming hairston

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    Sorry to interrupt this latest session of 'As the Pop turns', but I do have to question the logic some posters are using in this thread.

    I have no problem questioning putting a cold shooter onto the court for crunchtime (see Dunleavy and Steve Novak), but does that neccessarily apply to subbing in a guy who's asked to defend? Is defense really as dependent on minutes and 'getting into the flow of a game' as shooting?
    Don't confuse them with clever facts like that.

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    It might have been a mistake..

    the worst part about exstatic's post isn't that he believes Hairston made a mistake and justified that Pop put him on..the worst part is that he said "that's why Hairston doesn't play", which is absolutely ridiculous..

    Not only does every player on our team make mistakes, but guys like Bogans/Mason/Finley/Bonner/McDyess/Jefferson/Blair are constantly making mistakes every game on a regular basis..

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    You're a joke. Posting clever quotes doesn't mask the fact that you haven't answered the key question:

    Why is Pop starting Bogans when Bogans hasn't done ?
    Why is Hairston's play (in 1 minute) enough to justify benching him, but Bogans' play (in 11 minutes as a starter) not enough to bench him?
    That's all the answer you're getting. If it's good enough for the author of the quote, it's good enough for me.

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    It might have been a mistake..

    the worst part about exstatic's post isn't that he believes Hairston made a mistake and justified that Pop put him on..the worst part is that he said "that's why Hairston doesn't play", which is absolutely ridiculous..

    Not only does every player on our team make mistakes, but guys like Bogans/Mason/Finley/Bonner/McDyess/Jefferson/Blair are constantly making mistakes every game on a regular basis..
    Malik would be very happy to have someone like you to spray perfume all over his . The fact is, mistakes late in the game can cost you that game. They're magnified. That's why they call it "crunch time".

    This was a play out of a time out. You can bet YOUR ASS that Pop gave instructions to go over all picks outside or near the 3 point arc. I don't think he likes have his instructions ignored.

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    Malik would be very happy to have someone like you to spray perfume all over his . The fact is, mistakes late in the game can cost you that game. They're magnified. That's why they call it "crunch time".

    This was a play out of a time out. You can bet YOUR ASS that Pop gave instructions to go over all picks outside or near the 3 point arc. I don't think he likes have his instructions ignored.
    Did Pop give instructions before the Rockets game?

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    The time when there is no one there to feel sorry for you or to cheer for you is when a player is made.
    You're right nobody cheers for Keith Bogans

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    Did Pop give instructions before the Rockets game?
    Yes, he did, they were very precise.

    "Keith, when you're in the corner and feeding Timmy in the post, hope for the turnover. And then when you and Kevin Martin are side by side and possession goes to the Rockets, make sure that Martin easily outruns you in transition. Be sure to point for someone to pick him up even though there's nobody there while you're at least a quarter-court behind him and pull up slow while he gets the fastbreak layup. I'm counting on you, my beloved bulldog."

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    You're right nobody cheers for Keith Bogans
    That quote was a re test. You passed with flying colors.

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    That quote was a re test. You passed with flying colors.
    Keith Bogans: 10:59 0-3 0-2 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0

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    After watching the replay, it wasn't a matter of making the wrong decision at all..

    Nash crossed him over and Duncan wasn't there to help, inexplicably leaving Nash wide open when his own man(Amare) set a pick after Hairston was beat..

    The highlights are up on NBA.com, check it out..

    Hairston got crossed by Nash's hesitation move, that sucks, no shame in that..

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    Bogans should not even be in the NBA right now, but he is the starting SF for the spurs

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    The time when there is no one there to feel sorry for you or to cheer for you is when a player is made.
    and when Hairston fails and gets jeered and belittled by POop is when a player is not made.

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    Yup, it was Duncan's fault just as much as Malik's.

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    ummmm.....if that mistake is why Hairston doesn't play, then I just have one question: why was he playing?

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    ummmm.....if that mistake is why Hairston doesn't play, then I just have one question: why was he playing?
    You just blew his mind.

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    it was a tough shot either way. nash is the only one able to knock that garbage down. i have no problem with giving them that shot.

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    it was a tough shot either way. nash is the only one able to knock that garbage down. i have no problem with giving them that shot.
    I have a problem backing off him. I don't see how you go under that screen in that situation, but I have hindsight in my favor. Duncan was really far off so staying up on Nash seems like the thing to do.

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    What's the argument? Duncan should have closed out on Nash when Hairston got picked. It's basketball 101. Case closed.

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    Hairston is the better basketball player than Bogans/Mason and Finley. He may not be able to fill it up as consistently from the outside than those three but he beats them in every other category possible on both ends. (To be fair I'm willing to bet Hairston is as consistent from three than Bogans and Finley right now).

    The reason why Pop doesn't play him is the same reason why some people within the Spurs are perplexed on how Pop doesn't give Mahinmi any opportunity.

    Pop can be too stubborn with how high he holds the respect and loyalty aspect between him and the veterans, whether they get the job done or not ( Unfortunately this team is full of them at Hairston's position). He gives Bogans/ Mason/ Finley multiple chances to succeed and they all produce maybe 1 out of every 5 games in one area which is nothing to boast about.

    It took Pop a year and a half to finally put Stephen Jackson in the rotation. That was only because Steve Smith was our immobile starting shooting guard to begin the 02/03 season. If we had 3 Steve Smiths that year I doubt Stephen Jackson helps us win the le in 03' just because of how stubborn Pop is about his veterans.

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