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    matt bonner is MVP of spurs

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    If the Spurs won this game, everyone would forget that missed 3 in overtime and praise Bonner for hitting that clutch 3 that got the Spurs a 94-93 lead. Seriously, how many people still remember that? But Dice still needs more minutes though.

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    See, this is where we differ. When you say situationally, then you're admitting to the fact, that at that time, it's essential. To me it's just another tool that Pop has in his quiver. This time, it didn't work, but it almost did. Had the team been able to execute, or had they just had a modi of fair calls, we all know the outcome would have been different. THEMS THE BREAKS.
    I'm admitting to the fact that it can be helpful sometimes, sure. In certain situations...however, even if the concept does have situational merit, it's pretty much useless in a pressure situation if Bonner is playing an integral role. He doesn't hit the shots he needs to in those situations, hardly ever. And the better the team we are playing, the lower his success rate.


    We aren't going to do anything if this team is reliant upon Bonner hitting big shots, open or not.


    Simple as that.

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    Too much Bonner killed the Spurs tonite. I was at the game and I saw Ian workout for 15 minutes. This guy was balling. He basically wasn't missing. He looked like he was warming up to actually play. Then Manu came out, followed by Bonner. Bonner hardly warmed up. Between Bonner and Ian, Bonner got all the PT, while we absolutely got killed in the paint. I saw it with my own eyes, Pop doesn't have a clue as to what Ian can do, because there is no way he would have watched what I saw and still played Bonner and Blair when he was getting killed on the glass.

    Pop is done. The Spurs were embarrassed at the Highlight Factory. We should have won this game.

    Manu is alright with me, he even took time to sign my kid's basketball, not a bad deal.
    +1

    Pop still doesn't get it.. Once again, athleticism and lack of defensive rebounding killed the spurs tonight. I am 100% convinced that Hairston and Mahinmi would help solve alot of those problems, EVEN NOW considering they haven't played much this year. And even if they they aren't quite ready, who the cares? They are the future so get them experience NOW. It's not like the spurs are expecting a championship this year.

    Hairston and Mahinmi should be getting ALL of Bogans/Bonner's minutes NOW and should have BEEN even much earlier in the year. Sad thing is, Hairston easily could have been our starting SG now and ripping up, while Bogans would probably be bricking 3's somewhere over in Greece about now. And Bonner should be riding the pine in favor of Ian's development. Bonner is a SITUATIONAL player, not an everyday 25-30 minute guy. He is a 3pt shooting big who plays little defense. Ian should be getting 1/2 of his minutes NOW and 2/3 of his minutes once he has experience.

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    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
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    I am pretty sure that you are not sober/on crack while you are watching the games.

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    Why is Soft getting a pass in the blame for this loss?

    Beyond pathetic failure to box out. If i knew how to stream i'd post it.

    To the OP, Bonner was bad yes but also hit some good threes. As pointed out, Bonner should be a situational player, not a staple. And of course Ian should have got some decent burn. Pops done. He's been done since 2006 _allas.

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    Too much Bonner killed the Spurs tonite. I was at the game and I saw Ian workout for 15 minutes. This guy was balling. He basically wasn't missing. He looked like he was warming up to actually play. Then Manu came out, followed by Bonner. Bonner hardly warmed up. Between Bonner and Ian, Bonner got all the PT, while we absolutely got killed in the paint. I saw it with my own eyes, Pop doesn't have a clue as to what Ian can do, because there is no way he would have watched what I saw and still played Bonner and Blair when he was getting killed on the glass.

    Pop is done. The Spurs were embarrassed at the Highlight Factory. We should have won this game.

    Manu is alright with me, he even took time to sign my kid's basketball, not a bad deal.
    cool

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    Had almost the exact same thoughts...wtf is Bonner doing out there with the game on the line? We know he's the an hesis of "clutch" and he got absolutely owned on the boards.

    Put this loss directly on the shoulders of Pop. The frustrating part is that even without Parker this looked like a winnable game. Not mad at any of the other players, although Georgie could've stood to hit at least one of the five corner threes he took!

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    I said out loud in OT when bonner missed that three " Matt those are the one's we NEED!" I miss Big Shot Rob...

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    Too much Bonner killed the Spurs tonite. I was at the game and I saw Ian workout for 15 minutes. This guy was balling. He basically wasn't missing. He looked like he was warming up to actually play. Then Manu came out, followed by Bonner. Bonner hardly warmed up. Between Bonner and Ian, Bonner got all the PT, while we absolutely got killed in the paint. I saw it with my own eyes, Pop doesn't have a clue as to what Ian can do, because there is no way he would have watched what I saw and still played Bonner and Blair when he was getting killed on the glass.

    Pop is done. The Spurs were embarrassed at the Highlight Factory. We should have won this game.

    Manu is alright with me, he even took time to sign my kid's basketball, not a bad deal.
    I'd love for Ian to play but I'm not sure that warmups are the best indicator for what he can or can't do in a game time situation. I agree that we needed rebounding at end of the game. Wasn't surprising to see Bonner shrink. I still recall people pissing on themselves in excitement when Bonner was tearing it up in the first exhibition game. He does well for lower pressure situations during the regular season, but for crunch situations he shouldn't be playing. This should be obvious.

    It's maddening that once Pop gets a notion stuck in his head he won't change. Brilliant people often do idiotic things based on instinct and emotions. Countless military leaders have become a victim of their own success.

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    This is not the year of the hairston!!maybe next season, it is bogans time..get over it

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    Tonight Bonner -11 McDyess +13.. please pop... please!!

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    But that's not the case tonight...IS IT?

    No McDyess late to get rebounds, but yet the Spurs won. Could it be because they were able to execute? Yeah, that's it. That's all it ever is.

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    But that's not the case tonight...IS IT?

    No McDyess late to get rebounds, but yet the Spurs won. Could it be because they were able to execute? Yeah, that's it. That's all it ever is.
    Or becouse Manu got a HUGE RB that wasn't meant to be in his hands. Or couse they blew an open 3...

    Execution? Manu to TD in p'n'r, TD getting blocked. Execution was Ok there. So?
    Your post is pointless.

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    Or becouse Manu got a HUGE RB that wasn't meant to be in his hands.
    WTF does that mean? Rebounds is hard work, he came up with the ball because he put in the work to get there. You called 1 play that ended up bad, but why didn't you call out the good plays, like the steals, the assist that led to a Jefferson dunk? That's right because some of you biatches are weak sauce. If you look at an overall body of work, the Spurs aren't playing like a team that is destined for lottery. THIS IS A PLAYOFF TEAM. The rest of this is naught but complaints and pure disdain.

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    Dice absolutely needs to start closing games. It's not like he was playing bad or anything.
    A paperweight gives us more presence than Bonner in crunch time.

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    Yeah, Bonner shouldn't be ge ng more than 10-15 mpg tops. Dice, can be inconsistent, but his defense and rebounding shows up a lot more than Bonner's streaky shooting.

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    Stupid coach

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    king of plus/minus (ie, our savior according to lord popo ) has been horrible against good teams. who could have predicted this!? it's not like we had an entire season and playoffs series to indicate that he's a pussy that will wet his pants when the pressure's on.

    at least we know that lord popovich doesn't give out minutes based on ability or performance. thank popovich that our savior, the disproportionately-armed, red headed one-trick pony will continue to lead our team to defeat.

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    im fine with bonner getting playing time and takin those open threes, but dyess definitely should be in there during crunch time... at least have him and bonner going in and out according to offense/defense

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    I'd love for Ian to play but I'm not sure that warmups are the best indicator for what he can or can't do in a game time situation. I agree that we needed rebounding at end of the game. Wasn't surprising to see Bonner shrink. I still recall people pissing on themselves in excitement when Bonner was tearing it up in the first exhibition game. He does well for lower pressure situations during the regular season, but for crunch situations he shouldn't be playing. This should be obvious.
    Bonner doesn't possess a single clutch gene in his body. That is more than obvious to everyone - except Pop. In fact, his shrinkage in clutch situations has been exposed more ever since Horry retired and his playing time increased.
    It's maddening that once Pop gets a notion stuck in his head he won't change. Brilliant people often do idiotic things based on instinct and emotions. Countless military leaders have become a victim of their own success.
    Amen. As maddening as it is that Pop has Ian rotting away on the bench, it's even more maddening that OKC has a kid (Ibaka), who is even more raw and unpolished than Mahinmi, yet he gets court time and is flourishing because of it. I would've loved to have seen Ian go up head-to-head with Ibaka. If nothing else, but to give the OKC another look along the frontline and provide the Spurs and Duncan with some rebounding and shotblocking help.

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