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  1. #126
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    Not gonna waste my time researching links for you, don't really care enough. I asked you to ask another teams fan about roddy if you want an objective assessment. I get it, you don't believe me. So ask a blazers fan or something like that, our disagreement on the player isn't going anywhere


    im not laughing at mavfan claiming roddy has talent or that hes a solid trade asset...simply at how grossly they exaggerate both those things. goodluck with french allah though, hopefully he pans out into the franchise player u guys believe he will be.

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    Oh man, how I can't wait for Roddy to return. Very soon

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    And obviously teams think he can be a heck of a player. When a team places a price tag of "future of the franchise" on a player, teams still make their own call, bit other teams become more intrigued and want to check him out. That's how his value has risen so quickly


    So you actually believe that Dallas proclaiming him 'untouchable' increases his value around the league?

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    brah u basically said he has a combination of the tools that some of the most explosive scorers in the league have...he has talent, but to make such comparisons after 700 mins of nba time is ridiculous.
    how is it ridiculous to say he has similar skillsets? to say he is as good as them would be ridiculous, but to compare his skillsets is not ridiculous at all. its like Andrea Bargnani. He has a similar skillset to Dirk (big man who has 2-guard types of skills such as ball handling ability and shooting ability), but he isnt anywhere nearly as good as Dirk. or saying that Wade has a similar playing style to Michael Jordan, even though he definitely isn't as good as Jordan was.

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    Because fans on message boards are great sources of objective opinions.
    Yes, a fan assessing another teams player would be own objective source (at least the best source we can find through social media). Unless those teams have a rivalry of course. Do you know what objective means? Or do you happen to know a couple gm's we can speak to on the matter?

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    I disagree wholeheartedly. Whether Melo would sign an extension or not, I trade Roddy for him IN A HEARTBEAT. And I'm a huge Roddy fan.

    Roddy's ceiling is probably "solid 2nd option" and not "NBA Superstar". As far as him being the future of the franchise, he isn't. He's a nice supporting member as long as Dirk's still playing at a high level. After that, he'll be a good player on a ty team, nothing more.

    The time to win is right now, and with Carmelo, the Mavs this season have their best championship hopes since 2006. Even if he's gone after the season is over, it's worth it because as it is, this team only has another year or two anyways, with Roddy or without.

    Why hold onto Roddy? So that after Dirk gets old, you can have the 2nd coming of Michael Finley? An All-Star on a 20 win team?
    Awful idea, considering Melo doesnt promise a le. Mavs might end up being a 20-30 win team when they trade damn near their entire team for a 5 month Melo rental, and he bolts in the offseason. the only reason for any hope of the team wining more than 30 games after that is Dirk. Denver obviously is wanting way too much for Melo, and after all the pieces the Mavs may lose, they may even be worse off after the trade.

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    some people are very mad Roddy is coming back for some reason

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    Yes, a fan assessing another teams player would be own objective source (at least the best source we can find through social media). Unless those teams have a rival of course. Do you know what objective means? Or do you happen to know a couple gm's we can speak to on the matter?
    Yes, I do. Do you know that the word fan is derived from fanatic? Fans are a most unlikely source of objective opinions.

    At any rate, I didn't say a word about your little Hill/Roddy debate. I responded to your post where you opined that Roddy's value had 'skyrocketed' by virtue of Dallas proclaiming him to be untouchable.

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    some people are very mad Roddy is coming back for some reason

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    this thread is a good reminder that 98% of spurfans are mexican, because they cant read for

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    steaming mad tbh

    dirk+isiah thomas jr=death for the rest of the league

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    So you actually believe that Dallas proclaiming him 'untouchable' increases his value around the league?
    READ what I am saying......I said it raises interest... Awareness. Trying to oversell is a common tactic, heard of it? Pretty simple marketing strategy. A lot of hype is created over a movie by marketing campaigns and advertisement so people go check it out themselves, same kind of thing here. Mavericks organization and fans went crazy about roddy, created hype, people checked him out. Not a complicated concept man.

    Hype drew attention, roddy took care of the rest.

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    READ what I am saying......I said it raises interest... Awareness. Trying to oversell is a common tactic, heard of it? Pretty simple marketing strategy. A lot of hype is created over a movie by marketing campaigns and advertisement so people go check it out themselves, same kind of thing here. Mavericks organization and fans went crazy about roddy, created hype, people checked him out. Not a complicated concept man.
    ur arguing with a mexicano

    no el bueno

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    how is it ridiculous to say he has similar skillsets? to say he is as good as them would be ridiculous, but to compare his skillsets is not ridiculous at all. its like Andrea Bargnani. He has a similar skillset to Dirk (big man who has 2-guard types of skills such as ball handling ability and shooting ability), but he isnt anywhere nearly as good as Dirk. or saying that Wade has a similar playing style to Michael Jordan, even though he definitely isn't as good as Jordan was.
    saying bargnani's skillset is similar to dirk's, is different then saying...bargnani has dirk's jumpshot, ball handling, and finishing. u said the latter tbh

    roddy=parker's speed and finishing ability+rose's explosiveness and athleticism+nash's jumpshot...ur own words.

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    READ what I am saying......I said it raises interest... Awareness.
    I did read what you said. I quoted what you said. This is what you said:

    Not just saying this as a Mavs fan, but Roddy's trade value is through the roof. All the "untouchable" and "future of the franchise" talk has really sky rocketed his value.... coupled with a few flashes of brilliance by Roddy himself.
    Now I would suggest that you READ what you are saying.

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    saying bargnani's skillset is similar to dirk's, is different then saying...bargnani has dirk's jumpshot, ball handling, and finishing. u said the latter tbh

    roddy=parker's speed and finishing ability+rose's explosiveness and athleticism+nash's jumpshot
    yes, roddy has components of their various skills. but there is a different between having talent, and putting it to use. ive already acknowledged that roddy hasnt put his talents to use, and there is no guarantee that he ever will. just that he most definitely has shown he has talents comparable to those players. pretty simply concept to understand tbh

    unfortunately its a lot easier to just not use your brain and retort with something like "roddy = MJ 4.8 "

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    this thread is a good reminder that 98% of spurfans are mexican, because they cant read for

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    Yes, I do. Do you know that the word fan is derived from fanatic? Fans are a most unlikely source of objective opinions.

    At any rate, I didn't say a word about your little Hill/Roddy debate. I responded to your post where you opined that Roddy's value had 'skyrocketed' by virtue of Dallas proclaiming him to be untouchable.
    Yes... Fanatics for their team. That's why you get a Yankees fan to evaluate a braves player, you get a more objective opinion then asking a braves fan obviously. Fans are the only objective sources we have available.... Unfortunately

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    Yes... Fanatics about their team. That's why you get a Yankees fan to evaluate a braves player, you get a more objective opinion then asking a braves fan obviously. Fans are the only objective sources we have available.... Unfortunately
    Well, they're the sources of alternate opinions.

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    yes, roddy has components of their various skills. but there is a different between having talent, and putting it to use. ive already acknowledged that roddy hasnt put his talents to use, and there is no guarantee that he ever will. just that he most definitely has shown he has talents comparable to those players. pretty simply concept to understand tbh

    unfortunately its a lot easier to just not use your brain and retort with something like "roddy = MJ 4.8 "
    how can u even conclude that he has that level of skill, and that he simply has to put it to use...after 700 mins of nba play? you dont compare his skillset to some of the most explosive scorers in the league based on glimpses

    im not even blaming mavfan for being excited about roddy or saying that he doesnt have potential...but come on son, be alittle realistic with your comparisons.

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    I did read what you said. I quoted what you said. This is what you said:



    Now I would suggest that you READ what you are saying.
    Sorry it has HELPED sky rocket his value.... If roddy hadn't been hyped so much he wouldn't have garnered nearly as much attention, and that attention has raised his value because he's also preformed well. That's all I'm saying, I don't understand what there is to argue over really... That's all true

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    Some fat s hatin cuz Roddy finna be hittin that south dallas swag on they ass
    Lol, spurs fans are clearly getting worried here. Worried that roddy's going to school parker and hill again like he did in game 6

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    Sorry it has HELPED sky rocket his value....
    Better. Still far-fetched, but better.

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    Roddy could land Stephen Jackson or maybe Gerald Wallace, he could prob land T. Prince and numerous other players as well. Those are the teams the Mavs have been in discussions with and they have all asked for Roddy B in retrun along with butler's contract. Ask some Bobcat fans......a lot of them would do a Butler/Roddy package. You don't have to believe me, but Roddy has a lot of trade value around the league... a lot of people (outside of spurs nation) consider him a special young talent.

    Listen to your friend Ditty, he's speaking the truth.
    Roddy doesn't land the Bobcats pair. He would just be the icing on the cake (combined with Butler's contract) for taking their long term (overpaid) contracts off MJ's hands.

    With Prince, again you have give up the expiring deal of equal value.

    You misunderstand that when teams are considering making these deals, it's the expiring contract that's of greatest value to them, adding an unknown high ceiling (but far from proven) talent is just the topper.

    You couldn't combine Roddy with Haywood's contract in a deal and expect anything in return.

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    how can u even conclude that he has that level of skill, and that he simply has to put it to use...after 700 mins of nba play? you dont compare his skillset to some of the most explosive scorers in the league based on glimpses

    im not even blaming mavfan for being excited about roddy or saying that he doesnt have potential...but come on son, be alittle realistic with your comparisons.
    how is it not realistic? does he not have speed and finishing ability like Parker? dude finishes very well around the rim, and has extreme speed.

    is he not an explosive jumper, capable of getting quite high and finishing with dunks, like Derrick Rose does?

    has he not proven to be a fantastic shooter, by not only shooting a high % on jumpers, but hitting mulitple types of jumpshots, whether it is set up, pull-ups, or fade-aways, similar to what Nash does?

    I'm not saying he is as strong as any of those guys in any of those areas. Just that those are all big strengths that those individual players have, and he has those kinds of strengths as well. but he still has to put it all together, and i dont know if you are just choosing to be ignorant to the fact that I have said that multiple times, but its certainly looking like you just see the comparisons, and base your stupid-ass replies off of those, instead of seeing the fact that im also saying hes not as good as any of them, and has a LOT to prove and a LOT to work on as well.

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