Star tracker: Manu is No. 1

[sol]

[FoxMulder]

Um...my knowledge of Argentina history, it's rises and it's declines, goes something like this...

You guys have a military.

... government?
Ask who put them as government. Ask about the Plan Condor to Henry Kissinger.

You love Soccer.

I think that sums up the totality of your problems right there. I am not kidding on the Soccer thing...every country that claims Soccer as it's favorite sport suffers from political instability.

Why is America the most powerful nation on Earth?

Because we hate ing Soccer more than any other nation on Earth.
But I disgress...

I don´t like soccer very much...
America is powerful in weapons and influence yet...
but the Euros are rising up very well... and all of them have soccer as their main sport.

Your basic contributions to the world are:
A female character in an opera and bad movie.
Manu(the best one)
Maradonna(a weak contribution at best)
That boxer that put up a great fight(for a white guy) against Muhammad Ali in the 70's...
And that reporter with the great ass that interviewed Manu his rookie year(the second best one).

That boxer was Ringo Bonavena...but he isn´t as great as Pedro Monzon was... you forgot Tennis, Science, Arts and Architecture

...Borges, Cortazar, Milstein...

and some beautiful models...

I don´t understand the "great ass" about the reporter...

you guys inherited the worst aspects of the political shcitzophrenia of Spain and Italy and you guys are the last people on earth that need to be critiquing governments of other countries....

Yep, we are the worst. North Americans never makes difference between people.... and they never have labels or sterotypes about people...
We inherited the worst aspect so i must think that Italo-NorthAmericans inherited the best...

Oh and while ya'll may be able to claim pride in your lack of racial divisions compared to dumb ass ole America(near as I can tell because you are just about all white)...Your political disputes make the Palestinian Israeli conflict look like a beach party. There are all kind of divides with humans...if they aren't racial they'll be something else...

I wouldn´t say nothing about Palestinian and Israeli matter... is out of place...
they have war and a millenial confrontation beyond ethnicity...

But something in that last phrase I feel is a lot true... major problems in South Americans aren´t racial but social and economics...

And I´m not blind Argentina isn´t the heaven of the world. We´ve got a lot of problems. And a great influence from facist governments... even today I heard a lot of people taking how bad are the jews (I don´t know where that came from maybe from the german friends of Peron) we have discrimination but not mostly by ethnicity but by social class... even today rich people has the "Cabecitas" or "Negro" nicknames for poor people (even if they are blondes with blue eyes).
Here in the south Chilean people (my mother is chilean) is discriminated as much as Bolivian or Paraguayans in main cities as La Plata, Cordoba or Buenos Aires... but because they "steal" jobs to argentinians, something similar to what many NorthAmericans think about Latinos...

I´ve said "most Americans aren´t racist, but many are..."
Isn´t that true?
And I will add "most Argentinians aren´t racist, but many are..."
But I couldn´t be so blind to say "nobody in my country is a racist" neither nobody in his country could say that...ask to

French about Africans...
Spain about Southamericans (Sudacas)
English about Frenchs...
German about Frenchs...
Corean about Japanese...
Nepalese about Chinese...
Brazilian about argentinians...

But it seems a waste of time...
After all this is a thread about the Spurs... and Basketball

And Manu deserves a lot of respect... even if he was from Mars
But he is the greatest basketball player who came from SouthAmerica...
Latino, Hispanic or whatever you want to called the people from here.

[smeagol]

ESPN is the tiest sport network there is.

Last night I put it on and they are showing a bunch of guys eating hot dogs in Coney Island. WTF? Is this supposed to be a sport?

Isn't showing (i) the strongest man in the world, (ii) drag races, (iii) NASCAR, (iv) trucks with giant tires driving over used cars, and (v) fishing and hunting enough torture for the ESPN viewers.

And whottt, seriously, ESPN Deportes is not catered to Latin America, at least not catered correctly.

[nkdlunch]

Fox Deportes >>>> ESPN Deportes

[FoxMulder]

Isn't showing (i) the strongest man in the world, (ii) drag races, (iii) NASCAR, (iv) trucks with giant tires driving over used cars, and (v) fishing and hunting enough torture for the ESPN viewers.

Don´t forget about Poker World Series...

[smeagol]

Don´t forget about Poker World Series...

Watching poker on TV has become a fad in this country. Every lesser cable channel has some kind of poker show.

[FoxMulder]

oh... and cheerleaders championship... well at least something interesting

[TOP-CHERRY]

ESPN is the tiest sport network there is.

Last night I put it on and they are showing a bunch of guys eating hot dogs in Coney Island. WTF? Is this supposed to be a sport?

It is, technically a "Sport", actually.

[SWC Bonfire]

Isn't showing (i) the strongest man in the world, (ii) drag races, (iii) NASCAR, (iv) trucks with giant tires driving over used cars, and (v) fishing and hunting enough torture for the ESPN viewers.

What the is wrong with world's strongest man? Don't tell me you've never wondered how high you could throw a beer keg?

Will Ferrel even named his kid Magnus after Magnus Ver Mangnusson.

[smeagol]

It is, technically a "Sport", actually.

Well, here's a couple of ideas, which should fly with ESPN, and should entertain millions of viewer around the World:

- “How many flies can you catch in an hour?”
- “How many yards can you run with a doberman on your ass?”
- “How many times can you say the word ‘Septuagenarian’ in a minute?”
- “Can you make your bed in under a minute?”

And my personal best:

- “Through a ball and hit it with a stick”. Ooops, that boring sport already exists. Its called, baseball (or cricket or softball).

[nkdlunch]

I always wondered if the hot dog eaters puke it all out at the end. I'm sure they do or else they'd be sick for a week. This makes it disgusting in my eyes. :vomit

[TOP-CHERRY]

“Through a ball and hit it with a stick”. Ooops, that boring sport already exists. Its called, baseball (or cricket or softball).

Or chase a ball for hours unending even if you end up with a score of 0-0... Oops, that boring sport already exists...

[smeagol]

Or chase a ball for hours unending even if you end up with a score of 0-0... Oops, that boring sport already exists...

To be honest with you, I have lost a lot of interest in soccer. ever since I started following the Spurs, I can give a rats ass about what goes on with my local soccer team. I still follow my NT, though.

Nevertheless, baseball is sooooo boring it not even funny. Not to mention cricket. That goes on for days!

[TOP-CHERRY]

To be honest with you, I have lost a lot of interest in soccer. ever since I started following the Spurs, I can give a rats ass about what goes on with my local soccer team. I still follow my NT, though.

Nevertheless, baseball is sooooo boring it not even funny. Not to mention cricket. That goes on for days!

Yeah, I hate baseball also. I just don't get what's so entertaining about it. I guess I understand why it's so popular, considering the history behind it. Invented in the US, it was a way of escaping from long hours of work, and a place where you could hang out w/ friends and drink beer... So I guess that's why it's still so important to Americans.

And about soccer, I find it extremely excruciating to watch... You just watch the ball go back and forth, back and forth, with very few scoring... But I actually enjoy playing it as much as basketball. It's just the watching part that's painful.

[FoxMulder]

And about soccer, I find it extremely excruciating to watch... You just watch the ball go back and forth, back and forth, with very few scoring... But I actually enjoy playing it as much as basketball. It's just the watching part that's painful.

I´ve never play baseball and i don´t hate it... I remember a final series where I was watching the Atlanta Braves 10 years ago... but after that I lost my interest and never watch it again.

My father and brother in law enjoy to watch it... not all the time... but sometimes.

I agree with you... Soccer or Football as we said is much fun to play than to watch... but there is a passional thing about teams. Sometimes is even a State or Country matter...

Basketball is a lot more fun to watch than to play... and its because you must be in a real good shape to play it and not look ridiculous. Like me last year...

[WalterBenitez]

ESPN is the only network showing us (Latin America) NBA games.

Did I tell you I think Manu is LATINO???

[Jelly]

- “Through a ball and hit it with a stick”. Ooops, that boring sport already exists. Its called, baseball (or cricket or softball).

There is a great difference between baseball and cricket. Just because two sports use similar equipment, does not mean they are interchangeable.
You kind of imply that it is easy to "throw a ball and hit it with a stick".
Actually, hitting a baseball is widely regarded as one of the hardest things to do in sports. Some people say it's THE hardest thing to do. It's much easier to hit a cricket ball than a baseball (and I'm not dissing cricket). In cricket, a batsman (I think that's what they're called) can expect to hit the ball on most tries. In baseball, a very good batter will hit it only 30% of the time.

Just curious...you said you were watching ESPN hot dog eating contests on TV. Aren't you in Argentina?

[TOP-CHERRY]

I´ve never play baseball and i don´t hate it... I remember a final series where I was watching the Atlanta Braves 10 years ago... but after that I lost my interest and never watch it again.

My father and brother in law enjoy to watch it... not all the time... but sometimes.

I agree with you... Soccer or Football as we said is much fun to play than to watch... but there is a passional thing about teams. Sometimes is even a State or Country matter...

Basketball is a lot more fun to watch than to play... and its because you must be in a real good shape to play it and not look ridiculous. Like me last year...

Yep... it's just culture, how you're raised, and what you're used to. I'm sure if I had spent more time in Mexico, I'd love soccer, but since I didn't, I love football and basketball... It's kinda funny.

[TOP-CHERRY]

There is a great difference between baseball and cricket. Just because two sports use similar equipment, does not mean they are interchangeable.
You kind of imply that it is easy to "throw a ball and hit it with a stick".
Actually, hitting a baseball is widely regarded as one of the hardest things to do in sports. Some people say it's THE hardest thing to do. It's much easier to hit a cricket ball than a baseball (and I'm not dissing cricket). In cricket, a batsman (I think that's what they're called) can expect to hit the ball on most tries. In baseball, a very good batter will hit it only 30% of the time.

Just curious...you said you were watching ESPN hot dog eating contests on TV. Aren't you in Argentina?

You just love looking for opportunities to get offended, don't ya?

[Jelly]

You just love looking for opportunities to get offended, don't ya?

I'm not offended. Do you see any exclamation points in that post? I'm just pointed out that baseball and cricket don't have much in common.

[FoxMulder]

Just curious...you said you were watching ESPN hot dog eating contests on TV. Aren't you in Argentina?

Yep we all see thats "sports" here on TV... correction only in ESPN

[hendrix]

By the way... great post Kori.

[smeagol]

There is a great difference between baseball and cricket. Just because two sports use similar equipment, does not mean they are interchangeable.

I never ever implied they were interchangeable. All I have “implied” is that they are both based on the same concept, a guy troughs a ball, a guy from the other team tries to hit it, and if he does, things happen.

You kind of imply that it is easy to "throw a ball and hit it with a stick".

No, I did not imply that. I was very straight forward. I said both sports (I also added a third one, softball) are boring (to me).

Actually, hitting a baseball is widely regarded as one of the hardest things to do in sports. Some people say it's THE hardest thing to do. It's much easier to hit a cricket ball than a baseball (and I'm not dissing cricket). In cricket, a batsman (I think that's what they're called) can expect to hit the ball on most tries. In baseball, a very good batter will hit it only 30% of the time.

Thanks for the additional info. I did not know all this (about hitting a baseball being one of the hardest things to do in sports). But it still does not change my view of baseball. I’ve been told by some of my American friends that there is a lot of strategy that goes into baseball, and that you need to know all the rules to learn to appreciate it.

Just curious...you said you were watching ESPN hot dog eating contests on TV. Aren't you in Argentina?

No, I’m from Argentina but have been living in the US for almost 9 years. Unfortunately, I’m stuck with the local ESPN and ESPN2 channels and the hot dog eating contests

[smeagol]

Nicolás or Nico.

And yours, mr. smeagol?

Marco, como Marco Polo.

[smeagol]

No smeagol...if was Hendrix that pissed me off. Seriously.

I thought is was me.

I need to talk to the dumper. He knows exacly how to get you started.