PG or stretch 4Lakers were a great landing spot for him tbh.
I'm sure the old man would have put him at PG or some if we ended up drafting him
Look for this pattern if you want to focus in on guys who might buck the trend -- coming up through the ranks from lesser to greater college programs, late bloomers. From way back in early February, 2024:
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post11023744
Yup but patfo rather trade 8th pick for likely future 29th pick 4 years later.
It was a no brainer tbh...
our team has bricklayer after bricklayer and zero shooters unless you count gimpy vassell who prefers to shoot 40 foot triple-teamed fadeaway jumpers...and gets injured every 3-4 games...
and there was knecht - an actual marksman- and we pass until the year 2097
Maybe I have selective memory, but I don't recall this being true at all. ST loved (and still loves) Derrick. Most folks just liked that trade because of where the organization was headed at the time. In hindsight, the Celtics actually robbed us
It gets a bit more nuancedMaybe I have selective memory, but I don't recall this being true at all. ST loved (and still loves) Derrick. Most folks just liked that trade because of where the organization was headed at the time. In hindsight, the Celtics actually robbed us
At the time the Celtics record was pretty middling- I think the pick was under 20- maybe 17, before a late run. I suspect that pick was pretty much his max market at the time.
It's amazing how perfect of a fit the Celtics and White are. Don't think he flourishes like that many places.
Still one of my favorites and very happy for him.
He was called Fat Head II and a China doll.Maybe I have selective memory, but I don't recall this being true at all. ST loved (and still loves) Derrick. Most folks just liked that trade because of where the organization was headed at the time. In hindsight, the Celtics actually robbed us
ST loved DWhite. They were begging for him and Dejounte to actually play together. But the old man refused to do so, started Bryn Forbes for 82 games and the Sniff Crew was throwing out every defense in the book for him tbh
This is what I was meaning, though said less eloquently in "path through College". Guys develop at different paces, and there will be cases where people are late bloomers, and take time to get everything together. It seems more likely that people that go to Culinary school, or Northern Colorado will fall into that category as late bloomers.
Jalen Williams is another one I was high on who was older than his peers in his draft class, would have people here pass on him just because of their teen fetish.
Acting like we’re the oddballs when 19 is WHAT THE NBA DOES.
Trying to use an exception as a norm when the actual norm is the opposite of what you believe.
He's been better than I thought, that's for sure. 4 starts and averaging 20 points and 51%÷ from 3
Haven't watched his defense to know how he's holding up there
as weak as this past draft was thought to be, it had some shooters. Risacher, Knecht, McCain, and high expectations for Sheppard and Dillingham. Ajay Mitc and Pelle Larson have small samples of over 10 attempts but so far so good and over 40%
Spurs desperately need shooting, the best they can usually do is an unreliable scrub like Champagne at 36% or Glassell's infrequent appearances of 37%
Spurs aren't serious about winning. If giving away a #8 First round pick didn't clue you, I suggest pro wrestling is the Sport for you.
What they are serious about? Who the f knows. But it ain't winning basketball games. Why anyone would buy a season ticket or support a team like this, has more to do with too much free time, than anything to do with basketball.
This ain't basketball. It's something else entirely.
We've got another one of those late-bloomers under contact now -- in the G League.
He committed to a small NAIA school then "rose up" to the Ohio Valley Conference (Morehead State). He's a three-point sniper and he's big (6'7") and old (24) like Knecht.
He's shooting 41.9% from three through six games in the G League.
He's like a poor man's Knecht and I think this team could very well use him very soon.
The Spurs didn't need a poor man's Knecht. They had the number 8 pick, right? What did they trade it for?
We've got another one of those late-bloomers under contact now -- in the G League.
He committed to a small NAIA school then "rose up" to the Ohio Valley Conference (Morehead State). He's a three-point sniper and he's big (6'7") and old (24) like Knecht.
He's shooting 41.9% from three through six games in the G League.
He's like a poor man's Knecht and I think this team could very well use him very soon.
For a pocketful of mumbles . . .
Such are promises
Kid dodged a bullet, the potential is clearly there to become one of the best shooters in the league, but he would have been held back massively with Wembanyama stealing his 3pt shots and Poop restricting his minutes.
Instead, he's developing at a fast rate on a playoff team alongside a pass first star. Good for him.
All lies and jest??
Tyreke Evan’s was the ROTY on a loaded draft… where is he now?
as a 23 year old 5th year senior, a contender that needed immediate contribution made sense. similar to jacquez on miami
i really liked tyreke. was a very good player for a long time. would have loved him as a spur.
he never quite became the star he looked like he would as a rookie, but he also had a bunch of injuries. heck, late in his career after a 3 year stretch where he played a combined 31 games, he came back, played with memphis, and put up 19/5/5 on 45/38/79 splits (of course, due to injury, only played in 52 games that year)
I was wrong on Jalen as well. He's the type of player I think of highly in general (positional size (I thought he'd be a 2, he's developed to be an absolute tank and he's doing Draymond at the 5 ), some shooting ability, some on ball ability) but I've been very wrong on do it all guys in the past, with my clear example in my head being liking Derrick Byars in the 07 draft as a do it all wing, who was 23. Didn't work out then, try not to repeat mistakes in thinking, though always possible to overcorrect to one anomaly / anecdote.
I still think, as a general process, valuing guys who performed well, and heavily adjusting for the age when they've they were in being effective is pretty ideal as close to the best drafting strategy, though there is obviously a need to balance out a stats only process (misses playing style, offensive load, skillset etc )with a details based scouting process that incorporates other variables, like shooting versatility, defensive scouting on ability to play different roles, performance at other levels / roles (e.g, taking into account HS tape for freshmen, like Castle).
I see him as a Kyle Korver ceiling Doug McDermott floor type of guy. Decent pick at 8, absolute steal at 17. His d will always be a problem. Wish him the best.
An unprotected pick, an unprotected swap, and a #1 protected swap. The unprotected swap was from the Barnes trade, but that can’t happen without trading #8, so, it’s a result of that trade.
Did some quick research in comparison to McDermott...
Knecht's last 4 consecutive games has averaged 24.25 points
The highest 4 consecutive games average in McDermott's entire career is 21
McDermott as a floor is probably underrating Knecht or overrating McDermott
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