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    I hope CP3 does sign with Dallas. He'll get torched and played off the court by any of Fox, Castle or rookie Harper.

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    I wish him well. He was a pro, for his assists
    Milestone as a Spur, and had some bad luck with Pop/Wemby health issues he didn’t expect when he signed. Godspeed PointGod.

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    With Fox, Castle, and Harper, there just isn't many guard minutes to go around. Even if he wants to return, I don't think it makes sense given how little he'd play.
    I'd argue Castle played most of his minutes at the 3 last year as he spent most of his time on the court with both Paul and Vassell. I actually think there's more of a logjam on the wing between Castle, Vassell, Keldon, and Champagnie. Assuming we add Harper, I'd slot him in that mix too, at least for his rookie season. Having a rookie as the backup point guard makes no sense if this team is trying to compete next season. I guess they could have Castle be the backup PG and start Champ, but I'd much rather just have Paul there. I think there's more room for Paul than there is for Keldon and Champ.

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    Tbh we could still use him as a backup or 3 rd string point guard. Paul only came here because we overpaid and I suspect they aren’t prepared to pay up this year.

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    Tbh we could still use him as a backup or 3 rd string point guard. Paul only came here because we overpaid and I suspect they aren’t prepared to pay up this year.
    We don’t have much actual cap room, so why not? Wemby is still cheap.

    I’m not so much sold on needing him as much as keeping him away from Dallas, who are in desperate need of a PG. those guys.

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    I'm terribly unlearned as to the CBA and rules around trades, etc.

    Is there a scenario where we can trade CP3 for PJ Washington? That would be some real value. Getting Paul's mentorship was huge last season, adding Washington would toughen us up and add that thing that I've forgotten. It starts with and S. Shooting! Yeah, shooting might be good.

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    We don’t have much actual cap room, so why not? Wemby is still cheap.

    I’m not so much sold on needing him as much as keeping him away from Dallas, who are in desperate need of a PG. those guys.
    I see your point. I think both parties see where they are at come late free agency and go from there.

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    I'm guilty of creating my own narrative here, but I kind of want CP3 involved with our upcoming season because getting the Fox-Castle-Harper is a unique and large undertaking, and I think bringing him back for one more season as Chief Shepard is a good idea - think about how much Mitch Johnson has on his plate right now. I envision minimal usage under normal cir stances (maybe 15 minutes a game, say 50 games - just enough to work through things, if needed).

    I'm sure I've mentioned this previously too and sound like a broken record, but realistically I see a shot at at ring by 2027, and I think CP3 might too. If he asks to come back for this reason with minimal impact on salary cap, does PATFO say, "nah."?

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    He just wants to hoop.

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    yup.... assistant coaches make like 1 million a year. If he was ready to start coaching, I'd keep him on the roster so he could get paid more (while coaching Harper like he did Castle). But if he wants to just play, there's no opportunity for that here.

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    He can bookend his career at New Orleans yelling at Zion to get back on defense. Dejounte’s injury opens up a guard spot for him. I still think it’s Dal or LAL.

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    I'm terribly unlearned as to the CBA and rules around trades, etc.

    Is there a scenario where we can trade CP3 for PJ Washington? That would be some real value. Getting Paul's mentorship was huge last season, adding Washington would toughen us up and add that thing that I've forgotten. It starts with and S. Shooting! Yeah, shooting might be good.
    Yeah, a sign and trade of CP3 for PJ Washington would work. Washington will be on the last year of his contract so it's possible that Nico might value 3 years of CP3 more than 1 of him. He's a hard player to figure out his value since his counting and advanced stats are nothing special, but his on-off is pretty good. On top of that, he's not a particularly good shooter, and I know lots of Spurs fans are clamoring for more shooting.

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    I have a hard time believing that any team is going to want to have CP3 under contract for 3 years.

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    This is a fair concern. But I'm not sure how much that info can help the Mavs(or anyone else), assuming they have a competent advance scouting department. Those guys have so many hours of footage on Vic and Steph to breakdown and figure out what their weaknesses are.

    We fans, not just you in particular, tend to overlook how much really goes on behind the scenes with these pro teams. For example below is an excerpt from a very insightful Shane Battier article..



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    https://www.interbasket.net/news/nba...aknesses/1062/
    Thanks for the link. Can't remember if it was you that mentioned it before within the past week about Shane Battier saying Manu has no imbalance in his game.

    Also, stnick2261, is $1M an actual number for assistant coaches? I would have thought they'd make around 500K and the head coach is the one that gets $1M+

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    Thanks for the link. Can't remember if it was you that mentioned it before within the past week about Shane Battier saying Manu has no imbalance in his game.

    Also, stnick2261, is $1M an actual number for assistant coaches? I would have thought they'd make around 500K and the head coach is the one that gets $1M+
    2nd row asst coaches prolly a bit less than $1m, asst coaches on the bench are mostly $1m+. Head coaches way more for the most part, even the cheap ones these days.

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    Thanks for the link. Can't remember if it was you that mentioned it before within the past week about Shane Battier saying Manu has no imbalance in his game.

    Also, stnick2261, is $1M an actual number for assistant coaches? I would have thought they'd make around 500K and the head coach is the one that gets $1M+
    I wasn't sure, but I had read of a particular assistant coach making $1M... but I just googled it and it looks like the salary range is pretty wide, from $100k to $1M (for lead assistants). Steve Kerr and Pop both made $17M+ this past year as head coaches. Chris Paul on a veteran minimum contract would be $3M+ which is much more than even the highest paid assistant coaches would make (and even higher than some head coaches).

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    I have a hard time believing that any team is going to want to have CP3 under contract for 3 years.
    From what I read, a S&T contract has to be 3 or 4 years but only the first year has to be guaranteed. I don't know how the over-38 rule interacts with that.

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    I'd argue Castle played most of his minutes at the 3 last year as he spent most of his time on the court with both Paul and Vassell. I actually think there's more of a logjam on the wing between Castle, Vassell, Keldon, and Champagnie. Assuming we add Harper, I'd slot him in that mix too, at least for his rookie season. Having a rookie as the backup point guard makes no sense if this team is trying to compete next season. I guess they could have Castle be the backup PG and start Champ, but I'd much rather just have Paul there. I think there's more room for Paul than there is for Keldon and Champ.
    I don't think playing Harper at the three makes sense when they could just have him share the floor with Fox or Castle as the backup for each. He wouldn't be the only playmaker on the floor in that situation. Even so, unless the Spurs plan on having Sochan play second-unit center again this season, there is still going to be a minute's crunch for Champ and KJ on the wing.

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    I wasn't a huge fan when he signed here and thought he might even be a problem in the locker room but I was wrong. CP3 did a great job while he was here, was zero problems in the locker room and delivered way above what I expected. As long as he doesnt burn us in some game in the future I say thank you Chris and wish you well down the road.

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    Goodbye sweet prince


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    Thanks, CP3.

    He should retire as a Clipper. That feels right.

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    Thanks for your services CP3. I’m happy for him and his family but good-luck sharing ball handling minutes with Harden

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    Thanks for your services CP3. I’m happy for him and his family but good-luck sharing ball handling minutes with Harden
    Didn’t they already clash in Houston, with Harden making them trade CP? And then Harden forced his own way out a year or so later?

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    Goodbye sweet prince


    Going to play with Harden who already snaked him on Houston

    Must have offered more than other teams were

    Assuming their were other teams.

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