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dude you have got to get out more - maybe get laid once in a while- apparently beating your meat doesnt cut it for you. still too uptight - but i understand -- a frustrated mavs fan --- try not to let it carry over to other aspects of your life. -- the mavs are trying to make dirk a superstar and surrounding him with complimentary players -- just like the spurs - they preach team defense now -- just like the spurs -- but they will not be able to beat the spurs in a 7 game series because the focal point of their attack is still on the perimeter and they aint got nobody named jordan....
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I think the homers need to remember Bowen's reputation and status as the most dirty player in the NBA when they throw that drivel out there as a classy bunch.
5 Drobs wouldn't make up for one Artest and Bowen is undeniably WORSE.
That's not an opinion from me, Jim Rome, or Buddy Hackett.
People that go to work every day with him.
Sure, what he does is great, if he's on your team and gets away with it. Same can be said for Tonya Harding, and crazed cheerleading killer mom too. Sucks for Nancy Kerrigan and dead 16 yr old girl though.
Fact is fact.
Kori i'm especially ashamed of you. As a reporter you don't have to open minded when its personal time but you should at least be able to think neutrally and you know damn well that the spurs own there rings thanks to the whistle. If Bowen doesn't get away with what he does he doen'st even start, end of story.
lame insults... dont waste my time with lame ass insuluts like that. if you are going to insult, either make them...
A- Insulting
B- Funny
C (and most preferrably...)- Both
btw... to say that teams trying to get a superstar, building around him, and coaching defense is copying the spurs is again... ing dumb. ALL CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE DONE THAT YOU MORON. im not frustrated at all. im just amazed how in dumb and lame people can get. and you have just amazed me to another level. you really need to get your balls out of Tony Parker and Co.'s mouths.
You cant honestly believe that any of the Spurs championships are by virtue of the officials. Quit your ing crying, we play as a team, we play defense, and our superstar doesnt choke at the end of every game, regular or playoffs.
seriously... even though i happen to be a mavs fan, the spurs are babied by the league like crazy. although i dont agree that they got rings because of that, they do get away with more than enough. but then again, all championship teams do. and only a homer would say that Bowen is not dirty. im a mavs fan, and i admit that the spurs have kicked our asses for the most part the last few years. i admit that dirk is a soft defender. i admit that our toughest guy on our team is our coach. however, i still think that these pieces fit so well together, that this team can contend. and just about anyone who knows a damn about basketball agrees. the spurs are still the favorite, no doubt, but they can be beaten. so many (not all) of these spurs fans just act as if the spurs are invincible, just because they have won a few les, one of which they struggled to win. another... well im not going to comment on that. people can believe what they want to believe, and while they probably were still the best team in 99, i still cant say that they deserve full credit for that le, since endurance is one of this biggest ways to distinguish a true champion, and not many teams obviously had to prove their endurance. but i usually dont bring it up, because most spurs fans i know get so defensive about it, that they practically want to kill anyone who discredits that year even the slightest bit.
Holy !
Such a take can only come from a T-Wolves loving, sick delusional spurious mind
I halfway looked through this, and couldn't believe the amount of Bull .
Bruce Bowen is dirty!?!?
What does he do thats "dirty" please.....
And Wolkowisky has got some polish connection as I remamber correctly.Well i have the same picture because the guy who is receiving this kick plays for the argentinian national team, he is ruben wolkowisky
I don't know bout you but I realy heven't seen Bruce Bowen dirty. He is always clean. Well - in the games I've seen
Thanks for the laugh.
If Bowen is punching, spitting and hacking, why wouldn't they call it?
Stern/refs/NBA doesn't want the "small market" Spurs winning anything. So why would they ignore Bowen and hand the Spurs a championship?
Your theory sucks.
sickdsm, I though you were better than this.
Your posts in this thread wolves009-ish.
it means you are a homer.
"If Bowen is punching, spitting and hacking, why wouldn't they call it?"
the same reason they didnt call Michael Jordan for pushing off, John Stockton for stratching, Shaq for using his elbow to push, and Kobe for taking 5 extra steps every time he drives. they either dont see it, or are just ignorant.
From a Hoophypes article last year.
Bruce Bowen played solid at both ends of the court. He has emerged from this postseason looking a whole lot better than his critics. I’ve seen nothing that would merit calling him a “dirty” player. Also, one of his critics, Ray Allen, has lost all credibility by his failure to condemn the vicious cheap shots his teammates directed at Ginobili. In the Finals, Richard Hamilton did his share of whining, but replays showed that, if anything, he did more grabbing, bumping and yapping than Bowen.
Rip's a quick study.
http://www.hoopshype.com/columns/finals_hans3.htm
I think now we're back to the point of all of this: fans of other teams coming in here and whining about the Spurs getting favorable treatment from the league and from officials. Aside from being disrespectful to what the Spurs have accomplished, it's just plain wrong. I understand that fans see it that way, but its equally homerism on that side to contend that the principle reason or a major reason or even a partial reason for the Spurs' successes has been officiating and some league-ins uted vendetta to ensure that the Spurs win les.
That whining manifests itself in all sorts of ways other than direct complaints about officiating -- calls that Bowen is dirty or that Parker and Manu are overrated would be among them -- but all of that is just a mask for the underlying frustration that stems from: (1) losing consistently to a team; and (2) refusing to give that team credit for its successes. The "I think the Spurs are the favorites, but . . . . " is a cop-out when that "but" has to do with anything other than the quality of an opponent. And, so far, in this thread, the "but" has nothing to do with that and everything to do with the excuse-making.
What really bugs me about it is that the complaint is inherently duplicitous. If or when Fan A's team wins a le, he'll find that the fans of a defeated foe will come around and complain about how dirty or overrated the players on Fan A's team are, or how jaundiced the officiating is in favor of Fan A's team. Then Fan A will be left to defend the mindless accusations of fans that won't give his team any credit or respect for its accomplishment.
The fact that the Pistons fans around here have, for the most part, avoided that and have accorded the same respect to the Spurs that we've accorded to the Pistons is, I think, part of the reason that so many of those Pistons fans have become valued posters and friends to many in this forum.
Very well said FWD, and agree 100%.
The Maverick fans sound like bitter, jealous little es quite frankly.
It wasn't that long ago that a lot of Spurs fans sounded the same way to Lakers fans -- and Jazz fans.
you know what though? if i am asked a question, i will answer it. i didnt come here just to start bashing the spurs. someone asked me about my thoughts on the spurs, and i said i personally think parker and ginobili are somewhat overrated at times. i was asked about Bowen, i personally think he is somewhat dirty. someone brought up about whether or not the spurs won because of poor officiating. i didnt agree with that one, but i do agree that they get away with a little bit more than other teams, which happens to be the case with ALL championship teams. so dont try and twist up like i just came in here exploding about the Spurs, because that is NOT true at all, and you KNOW it.
Well, quite frankly, we dont give a what you think about us. At least we havent been blaming losses on officiating, the way es like you do.
Bruce isn't the best he could be, he should have got #1.
If he is in the heads of that many players, more power to him.
Flagrant Fouls, Tech's, Personal Fouls...Does Bruce lead the league in any of these categories? Better yet, is he even close? Don't tell me the refs just "don't see it." They hear about it all the time, if there was a problem, they would see it/call it.
You mistakenly assume that I'm somehow referring to you and only you. You have no problem generalizing about Spurs fans. I'm equally generalizing about fans of other teams (there are, of course, exceptions).
Your defensive response to my generalization, however, is interesting to me.
again, you cannot read. i never made a generalization about spurs fans. show me where i made a generalization about spurs fans. otherwise, kindly shut the up.
Explain yourself... I don't get you.
In the first matchup this year, Labron was 7/16 for 20 points and 3 TO's. I would certainly consider that Bowen keeping Labron in check. Especially considering the Spurs won in a landslide.
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