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    Sports Illustrated asked 248 players, ``Who is the dirtiest player in the NBA?''

    The runaway pick was Seattle's Danny Fortson, with 27 percent of the vote, followed by San Antonio's Bruce Bowen, 16 percent, and Seattle's Reggie Evans and Sacramento's Ron Artest with 9 percent each.

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    Most of them voted for Kerry Too, so you have to take their opinion with a grain of salt.


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    Most of them voted for Kerry Too, so you have to take their opinion with a grain of salt.

    thats dumb. they play the game. we dont. they know what they are talking about MUCH more than any of us will EVER know.

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    ray allen ,vc,



    I doubt kobe voted for bowen
    I respect kobe for that

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    Damn 36% coming from one team... we all know that already, after last years 2nd round of the playoffs

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    GET OVER IT PEOPLE. Stockton was dirty, and so was Malone. Manu leads with his knees and his "bows, now too.

    Bowen cheats, and he cheats well. I don't think he intends to really permanently maim anyone, but he puts alittle hurt into the game when he can get away with it. Having a bruiser is an integral component to playing elite-level defense. Think Rodman wasn't considered dirty? Think Jordan didn't get away with slapping people when stealing the ball, that Reggie didn't throw guys into the stands when trying to get free for the last second shot?

    The Bruce knows angles, and knows what the ref's will let him do. He is not great because he is dirty, but he is allowed to get away with some stuff because he is a great defender.

    sidenote: I'm not sure who is the "dirtiest" piston, maybe sheed. Who do you think is the dirtiest piston now, if any?

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    GET OVER IT PEOPLE. Stockton was dirty, and so was Malone. Manu leads with his knees and his "bows, now too.

    Bowen cheats, and he cheats well. I don't think he intends to really permanently maim anyone, but he puts alittle hurt into the game when he can get away with it. Having a bruiser is an integral component to playing elite-level defense. Think Rodman wasn't considered dirty? Think Jordan didn't get away with slapping people when stealing the ball, that Reggie didn't throw guys into the stands when trying to get free for the last second shot?

    The Bruce knows angles, and knows what the ref's will let him do. He is not great because he is dirty, but he is allowed to get away with some stuff because he is a great defender.

    sidenote: I'm not sure who is the "dirtiest" piston, maybe sheed. Who do you think is the dirtiest piston now, if any?
    Karl Malone= Dirtiest Player in NBA history

    Even if he didnt knock Dave out...I would still think this

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    Bowen and Artest on the list. The two players widely considered to be the best perimeter defenders. Maybe they're on to something.

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    I'm glad Bowen was voted in the top. To me it says that the guys who were asked let Bowen get inside their heads.

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    What makes Bruce Bowen himself on defense is just those iffy, semi-dirty moves.

    Otherwise he's just Hassell, Ariza, or Pietrus on defense.


    Remember that the next time you about the refs.

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    Whole results

    Who is the dirtiest player in the NBA?

    Danny Fortson, Sonics.....27%
    Bruce Bowen, Spurs.....16%
    Reggie Evans, Sonics.....9%
    Ron Artest, Kings.....9%
    Andres Nucioni, Bulls.....6%
    Matt Harpring, Jazz.....5%
    Dikembe Mutombo, Rockets.....3%
    Raja Bell, Suns.....3%
    Mark Madsen, Timberwolves.....2%
    Kobe Bryant, Lakers.....1%

    underrated/overrated

    Who's the most underrated player in the NBA?

    Chauncey Billups, Pistons.....14%
    Elton Brand, Clippers.....12%
    Chris Bosh, Raptors.....5%
    Gilbert Arenas, Wizards.....3%
    Tayshaun Prince, Pistons.....3%
    Ricky Davis, Timberwolves.....2%
    Rashard Lewis, Sonics.....2%
    Earl Boykins, Nuggests.....2%
    Josh Howard, Mavericks.....2%
    Tony Parker, Spurs....2%

    The most overrated?

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    Stephon Marbury, Knicks.....12%
    Yao Ming, Rockets.....10%
    Steve Francis, Magic.....9%
    Carmello Anthony, Nuggets.....5%
    Tracy McGrady, Rockets.....4%
    Michael Olowokandi, Celtics.....4%
    Kobe Bryant, Lakers.....3%
    Paul Pierce, Celtics.....3%
    Kenyon Martin, Nuggets.....3%
    Jermaine O'Neal, Pacers.....3%

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    just love when he kicks players in the face like he did with that Wally hahahaha

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    Maybe they just mean he needs to shower

    Quit being so whiny sickDsm.

    The league is full of prima donnas, and the last thing prima donnas like is someone playing defense. Hence, Bowen and Artest in the top 5.

    Remember this the next time you whine about Bowen - we own you.

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    all the results are pretty interesting. Especially the most overrated category.

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    I think it's awesome that everyone knows exactly what his name is.



    It means he made an impression.

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    all the results are pretty interesting. Especially the most overrated category.

    Yeah....we have those threads all of the time, but it's kind of funny seeing that the players feel that way about them, too.

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    Who's the most underrated player in the NBA?

    Chauncey Billups, Pistons.....14%
    Elton Brand, Clippers.....12%
    Chris Bosh, Raptors.....5%
    Gilbert Arenas, Wizards.....3%
    Tayshaun Prince, Pistons.....3%
    Ricky Davis, Timberwolves.....2%
    Rashard Lewis, Sonics.....2%
    Earl Boykins, Nuggests.....2%
    Josh Howard, Mavericks.....2%
    Tony Parker, Spurs....2%

    The most overrated?

    Stephon Marbury, Knicks.....12%
    Yao Ming, Rockets.....10%
    Steve Francis, Magic.....9%
    Carmello Anthony, Nuggets.....5%
    Tracy McGrady, Rockets.....4%
    Michael Olowokandi, Celtics.....4%
    Kobe Bryant, Lakers.....3%
    Paul Pierce, Celtics.....3%
    Kenyon Martin, Nuggets.....3%
    Jermaine O'Neal, Pacers.....3%
    Don't show these latter results to Mavs' fan -- many of them are quite convinced that Parker and Ginobili are horribly overrated.

    That NBA players -- those who would know more about it than us -- would disagree, we'd miss them for the 3 hours they took trying to devise a retort. NBA players think Tony Parker is underrated? Manu isn't atop the overrated list? What, what, what? How is that possible!?!?!?!

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    If Bruce is so dirty, why is it that he almost never fouls out of games?

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    Don't show these latter results to Mavs' fan -- many of them are quite convinced that Parker and Ginobili are horribly overrated.

    That NBA players -- those who would know more about it than us -- would disagree, we'd miss them for the 3 hours they took trying to devise a retort. NBA players think Tony Parker is underrated? Manu isn't atop the overrated list? What, what, what? How is that possible!?!?!?!
    haha. its quite funny how you twist words so much. i never said "horribly" overrated. just IMO, they are overrated by many analysts. i could be wrong. however, having ONE great year does NOT make you a superstar. people that say they are superstars are overrating them. that is a fact.

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    If Bruce is so dirty, why is it that he almost never fouls out of games?
    EXACTLY. Bowen is the only player on the list of "dirty" players who doesn't get technicals all the time, or foul out of games. Bowen can play his game and not get a single foul called, or he can get 4-5 fouls called. Never does he foul out. He has NEVER been called for a flagrant foul, unlike Fortson or Evans or Artest...

    Bowen is the best defender in the league because he plays on the perimeter, he guards each team's best scorer and most of the time shuts him down, and because he does it all without becoming nasty or mean.

    But the players who filled out this survey are obviously having nightmares about Bowen. He's in their head. Hahaha. I love it.

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    The dirtiest player of the nba is without a doubt Ron artest, bruce just try to do his job, but i dont think he have ever wanted to hurt someone and that´s something fortson or artest could do. Because they dont care the other people they just love being in trouble. Nevertheless, i am not saying bruce didnt have had a dirty play but i personally think he never seeks to hurt anybody.

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    EXACTLY. Bowen is the only player on the list of "dirty" players who doesn't get technicals all the time, or foul out of games. Bowen can play his game and not get a single foul called, or he can get 4-5 fouls called. Never does he foul out. He has NEVER been called for a flagrant foul, unlike Fortson or Evans or Artest...

    Bowen is the best defender in the league because he plays on the perimeter, he guards each team's best scorer and most of the time shuts him down, and because he does it all without becoming nasty or mean.

    But the players who filled out this survey are obviously having nightmares about Bowen. He's in their head. Hahaha. I love it.
    NEVER gotten a flagrant foul? i would LOVE for you to show me proof of that. that is VERY hard to believe. i cant recall 100%, but they may have given him a flagrant-1 after elbowing finley. i think the league reviewed it, and added a flagrant-1, along with a fine. i could be wrong, but im still gunna say that to say he NEVER has gotten a flagrant foul is bull .

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    GET OVER IT PEOPLE. Stockton was dirty, and so was Malone. Manu leads with his knees and his "bows, now too.

    Bowen cheats, and he cheats well. I don't think he intends to really permanently maim anyone, but he puts alittle hurt into the game when he can get away with it. Having a bruiser is an integral component to playing elite-level defense. Think Rodman wasn't considered dirty? Think Jordan didn't get away with slapping people when stealing the ball, that Reggie didn't throw guys into the stands when trying to get free for the last second shot?

    The Bruce knows angles, and knows what the ref's will let him do. He is not great because he is dirty, but he is allowed to get away with some stuff because he is a great defender.

    sidenote: I'm not sure who is the "dirtiest" piston, maybe sheed. Who do you think is the dirtiest piston now, if any?

    Couple things... who cares if Bowen is dirty?? I'm not being sarcastic when I say this, but if you need to play "dirty" to help your team, then that's what you have to do. You do what it takes to help your team. Period. So I respect that. I wouldn't want to be on the end of the flying foot like Wally-World, but I don't have to be, so I can talk like this.
    Second up about the dirtiest Piston, that's a good question. We don't have anybody like Rodman or Laimbeer or Mahorn, so I don't know if you can really call any of them "dirty", per se. My vote as of this moment is Carlos Delfino, as he seemed to be the only Piston capable of fouling Shaq hard enough to keep him from getting a good shot off on Sunday...
    Gotta love Delfino, or I suppose now Pistons fans can call him Carlos, since Arroyo is off to Disneyland.....


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    Bowen got a flagrant for his Bruce Lee kick to Wally's grill.

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    just love when he kicks players in the face like he did with that Wally hahahaha
    OK now i have to post my signature again!

    enjoy fellas!

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