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  1. #126
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    Why are they waving the flag of Mexico? Why wave the flag of the country you left and don't want to go back to?

    I agree with that..... Its like a PR campaign, you need to show the people you love this country and are wanting to become a citizen. Im not saying not the have the Mexican flag but you should have the American flag, thats the Flag giving you the opportunity to protest.

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    Ok so that means what to me? I am not talking about Mexican policy I am talking about American policy. Many countries also cutoff the hands of theives....Should we do the same? And How many Americans are going to Mexico illegally to get a job and survive??!

    Edit: By the way I live in SA and my Grandparents were immigrants.
    Dude you got owned... make a reply with some substance.. Come big or go home.

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    Dude WTF is owned?! Honestly if you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you because YOU don't know the real world. I wonder where you live bro...... Somewhere that obviously keeps you sheltered from reality.

    Edit: By the way.... How old are you?

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    Dude you got owned... make a reply with some substance.. Come big or go home.
    Why are you instructing people to do what you, yourself have not done?

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    Why are you instructing people to do what you, yourself have not done?


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    Just released on HBO

    http://www.hbo.com/events/walkout/index.html



    Edward James Olmos directs this HBO Films drama that tells the true but little-known story of a group of Chicano students who staged a compelling 1968 walkout to protest the injustices of the public high-school system in East Los Angeles. Starring Alexa Vega as Paula Crisostomo, an idealistic honor student who refuses to "play it safe" in a school system that clearly discriminates against Chicanos, instead banding with a group of activists to coordinate a multi- school walkout of students. Mentored by her charismatic teacher Sal Castro (Michael Peña), Paula learns that sometimes the price for progress is high -- but it's ultimately worth paying.

    This movie's gonna be crap

  7. #132
    Believe. LakerHater0823's Avatar
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    HAHA Trainwreck, you are funny.


    EDIT: Dude!! who is that chick in your avatar
    Last edited by LakerHater0823; 04-01-2006 at 11:27 AM.

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    She used to to the weather for Univsion in the AM.

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    At least the people in NYC today were waving American flags. Small props to them for that.

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    Why are they waving the flag of Mexico? Why wave the flag of the country you left and don't want to go back to?

    Ok, I keep seeing this pop up. I'm not sure why they're waving the Mexican Flag, I think if anything they should be waving them both at the sametime, this is an assumption.

    The imigration law is mainly targeting Mexicans. The majority of them work here, but visit their family (wife & kids, if they couldn't come over, afford too) (or their extended family, mom, dad, uncles, etc) whenever possible. They still love their country of origin and would stay there if they could, but can't. They're just waving the flag to show their love for their race. It has nothing to do about bad mouthing USA or the American flag.

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    Someone asked for figures. Here they are.

    This study is one of the first to estimate the total impact of illegal immigration on the federal budget. Most previous studies have focused on the state and local level and have examined only costs or tax payments, but not both. Based on Census Bureau data, this study finds that, when all taxes paid (direct and indirect) and all costs are considered, illegal households created a net fiscal deficit at the federal level of more than $10 billion in 2002. We also estimate that, if there was an amnesty for illegal aliens, the net fiscal deficit would grow to nearly $29 billion.

    Among the findings:

    Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.

    Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).

    With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.


    On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households.


    Many of the costs associated with illegals are due to their American-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth. Thus, greater efforts at barring illegals from federal programs will not reduce costs because their citizen children can continue to access them.


    If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.


    Costs increase dramatically because unskilled immigrants with legal status -- what most illegal aliens would become -- can access government programs, but still tend to make very modest tax payments.


    Although legalization would increase average tax payments by 77 percent, average costs would rise by 118 percent.


    The fact that legal immigrants with few years of schooling are a large fiscal drain does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a net drain -- many legal immigrants are highly skilled.


    The vast majority of illegals hold jobs. Thus the fiscal deficit they create for the federal government is not the result of an unwillingness to work.


    The results of this study are consistent with a 1997 study by the National Research Council, which also found that immigrants' education level is a key determinant of their fiscal impact.



    You can read the full report here:
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

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    U.S. Flag Banned Amid Racial Tensions

    LONGMONT, Colo. (April 1) - Dozens of high school students protested a temporary school policy forbidding students from displaying the U.S. flag - as well as flags from other countries - amid racial tensions following immigration rallies.

    Skyline High School Principal Tom Stumpf said American flags were brazenly waved in the faces of Hispanic students and in one case a Mexican flag was thrown into the face of another student.

    "When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it," Stumpf said. "They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism."

    Students were warned about the policy Friday and several were suspended, although Stumpf would not provide details. Then, about 100 students protested during lunch time.

    Student Dustin Carlson told Denver station KCNC-TV that he was suspended for two days.

    "I'm getting suspended for it and personally I think that's uncalled for," he said. "If this country means freedom, then why can't we fly our own flag? It's ridiculous."

    Thousands of high school students Friday in California, Texas, Nevada and other states protested the tough immigration laws proposed in the House. Some waved Mexican flags and carried signs saying "We are not criminals."

    On Monday, about 150 high school students, including some from Skyline, protested in Longmont.

    "People are taking it to a whole other level," said Laura Avitia. "I don't think they know why we were protesting."

    http://articles.news.aol.com/news/ar...00010000000001


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    Why are they waving the flag of Mexico? Why wave the flag of the country you left and don't want to go back to?
    cause they're not wee led

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    Okay lets keep it short as possible,

    the ppl who are still studying, which online resources do u usually goto get ur materials/journals for assignments???

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    ^^I saw that...too funny...and would probably be true...

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