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    BTW, is there any credible word on whether this Butler kid actually put his high school-educated "X" on the offer sheet?
    Yeah the seven days are on and counting.

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    BTW, is there any credible word on whether this Butler kid actually put his high school-educated "X" on the offer sheet?
    I was told that he did.

    But I don't trust anyone's word until I see it in a few newspapers at the least.

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    If a player requests not to return, don't most teams respect that and allow the player to leave?
    Nah, that's worthless, as others have posted.

    The classy move is to verbally abuse the team in the press until no one wants you any more.

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    Yeah the seven days are on and counting.
    Good, at least this saga will be over in seven days. Maybe still enough time to retrieve Javtokas.

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    I hear he can dunk the living out of a volleyball.

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    Chump - Manny

    How so?

    All year long I've heard about how Butler doesn't like the Knicks when I didn't even know crap about him. Various forums all over the net have been saying this all of last season.

    He doesn't wanna play for the Knicks. For the second time.

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    How about this for a "poison pill" clause in the contract?

    Management of the team employing Mr. Butler's services will publicly acknowledge, upon his signing, that Larry Brown was the best and most worthy (and underpaid) coach in that team's history.

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    Chump - Manny

    How so?

    All year long I've heard about how Butler doesn't like the Knicks when I didn't even know crap about him. Various forums all over the net have been saying this all of last season.

    He doesn't wanna play for the Knicks. For the second time.
    Google "Marc Jackson Golden State match" and get back with me.

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    I don't give a . If Duncan gets hurt next year, we will struggle to make the playoffs.
    If either one of these guys can set a pick, that's untrue.

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    Google "Marc Jackson Golden State match" and get back with me.
    Yeah you don't seem to understand me.

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    I don't give a . If Duncan gets hurt next year, we will struggle to make the playoffs.

    well if that's the case at least we'll have a good draft pick in what's supposed to be a very good and deep draft

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    Yeah you don't seem to understand me.
    It doesn't matter if he doesn't want to play there. What part of that do you not understand?

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    Yeah, the NFL setup is to where if a team signs a RFA they must send over compensation, whereas the NBA agreement simply allows the origional team to match the offer to retain the services. I would argue that draft picks are far more important in the NFL which is why the agreements are strucutred that way but thats a totally different thread.
    actually, draft picks are far more over-valued. the players picked with compensation rarely match the production of the player who left via restricted free agency to begin with.

    it's the age old production vs. potential debate.

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    It doesn't matter if he doesn't want to play there. What part of that do you not understand?
    No Mr. Genius.

    Your point was easy to figure out. Set aside your arrogance for a hair of a second and see that all I was saying was Knicks won't match, Butler doesn't wanna play for em anyways and he'll be a Spur.

    Thanks!

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    I don't give a . If Duncan gets hurt next year, we will struggle to make the playoffs.
    Struggle to make the playoffs? No.

    Not with Tony and Manu.

    We'd finish low, very low. But we wouldn't struggle.

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    actually, draft picks are far more over-valued. the players picked with compensation rarely match the production of the player who left via restricted free agency to begin with.

    it's the age old production vs. potential debate.
    I agree with you, what I was saying was that NFL draft picks are more valuable than NBA draft picks.

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    Per 24:

    19 points, 12 rebounds, 2 blocks.

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    A couple of questions:

    Is it conceivable that the Spurs could end up with both Butler and Elson?

    Even still, could they make a run after Q Woods

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    No Mr. Genius.

    Your point was easy to figure out. Set aside your arrogance for a hair of a second and see that all I was saying was Knicks won't match, Butler doesn't wanna play for em anyways and he'll be a Spur.

    Thanks!
    Given what we were discusing, it doesn't matter much.

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    A couple of questions:

    Is it conceivable that the Spurs could end up with both Butler and Elson?

    Even still, could they make a run after Q Woods
    Yes and yes.

    In theory.

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    Is it conceivable that the Spurs could end up with both Butler and Elson?
    Yes, it is.

    Even still, could they make a run after Q Woods
    If he'd take the LLE.

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    Yes, it is.



    If he'd take the LLE.
    If not, I wonder if Isiah would be willing to take back something in a S&T for Woods. However if he chooses to Butler, perhaps the Spurs can go after him outright.

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    It seems highly unlikely to me that we get Butler. Just utterly subjectively reviewing the situation, thinking of what I know about the Knicks (I watch them perhaps more than the Spurs, living in NYC), about Isiah, and the situation, I have to think they match. Isiah isn't interested in Butler's 'peace of mind' and desire to play elsewhere. He thinks he can match and convince Butler to play well -- knowing he will. And/or trade him bundled with a crap contract.

    It's very unlikely the Spurs get this guy, sad to say.

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    How about a poll on most likely Spurs next year? My guess:

    Butler 25%

    Javtokas 20%

    Elson 55%

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    How about a poll on most likely Spurs next year? My guess:

    Butler 25%

    Javtokas 20%

    Elson 55%
    Elson 88%
    Butler 12%
    Javtokas 0%

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