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    Reports this morning from London are that Israel may escalate the current conflict and bomb Syria...

    The London-based Arabic language newspaper Al-Hayat reported Saturday that “Washington has information according to which Israel gave Damascus 72 hours to stop Hizbullah’s activity along the Lebanon-Israel border and bring about the release the two kidnapped IDF soldiers or it would launch an offensive with disastrous consequences.”

    The report said “a senior Pentagon source warned that should the Arab world and international community fail in the efforts to convince
    Syria to pressure Hizbullah into releasing the soldiers and halt the current escalation Israel may attack targets in the country.”

    Al-Hayat quoted the source as saying that “the US cannot rule out the possibility of an Israeli strike in Syria,” this despite the fact that the Bush administration has asked Israel to “refrain from any military activity that may result in civilian casualties.”
    YNET NEWS


    Not sure about the reliability of this source, but the demands on Syria seem to fall in line with what Israeli PM Olmert said earlier today would end the conflict.

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    Iran warns Israel not to attack Syria (Reuters)

    TEHRAN, July 13 (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Thursday an Israeli strike on Syria would be considered an attack on the whole Islamic world that would bring a "fierce response", state television reported.

    "If the Zionist regime commits another stupid move and attacks Syria, this will be considered like attacking the whole Islamic world and this regime will receive a very fierce response," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying in a telephone conversation with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

    The president made the comments after Israel struck Beirut airport and military airbases and blockaded Lebanese ports in reprisals that have killed 55 civilians in Lebanon since Hizbollah guerrillas captured two Israeli soldiers a day earlier.
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    Yesterday, Hezbollah launched an Iranian-made ballistic missle at the Israeli city of Haifa. It was probably operated by Iranians. The war is on.

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    Hezbollah may have many of these mobile launchers along Israel's border

    In early 2001 it was reported that Hezbollah had set up a belt of mobile Multiple rocket launchers and truck-mounted missiles along Israel’s northern flank ready to go off the moment Israel launched a large-scale military offensive against Lebanon. The Japanese-made Isuzu truck launchers carry Fajr-3 (Arabic for dawn-3) projectiles, a third generation of Katyusha rockets with a 60-kilometer range manufactured by Iran's air force industry.
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    Don't look to the Democratic Party for any sanity in this conflict...

    The House Democratic leadership strongly condemns the seizure of Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah terrorists operating from Lebanon... Countries with influence over Hezbollah, particularly Syria and Iran, must move quickly to bring about the return of the soldiers and the end of rocket attacks on Israeli civilians from Hezbollah positions in Lebanon. The Palestinian Authority, and countries with influence over Hamas, must take similar action in Gaza.

    "Those who finance, direct, or otherwise support acts like these need to understand that they have produced an extremely dangerous situation and that they are responsible for the consequences. Israel has an inherent right to defend itself, and the United States supports our ally."
    Rush Limpballs? Nope. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (CA) and House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (MD)(7/12/06):

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    Israel is overreacting. This is the same kind of overkill nazis used in ww2 to fight what they called "bandits" (i suspect they would be terrorists in today's lingo) and we called Liberation Front.
    Overracting?!? That's laughable velik. I assume it's safe to say that your not a Jew living in Israel.
    What does Iran, hezbulla, Hamas the PLO and many Muslim terrorists have in common with Nazi Germany? The elimination or extermination of Israel and/or the Jewish race.
    Once again the Jews are facing rogue Nations and groups of terrorists whose agenda is to wipe them off the face of the earth and you say they're overracting?
    The main difference in their goal is one of Muslim supremacy instead of Aryan supremacy.

    They're not overracting, they're fighting for the very survival of their Nation!

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    Don't look to the Democratic Party for any sanity in this conflict...

    Rush Limpballs? Nope. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (CA) and House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer (MD)(7/12/06):
    Looks as if you and those that want to wipe out Israel are the only sane people left on Planet Earth dan.

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    Just in is a report that 100 Iranian troops helped hezbullah launch the attack on the Israeli warship.

    Live news broadcast, no link yet.

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    Yes, its sooooo easy to just bundle everyone who criticizes Israel foreign policy into one nice hate-filled package. Get real.

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    Just in is a report that 100 Iranian troops helped hezbullah launch the attack on the Israeli warship.

    Live news broadcast, no link yet.
    I've already said this.

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    Yesterday, Hezbollah launched an Iranian-made ballistic missle at the Israeli city of Haifa. It was probably operated by Iranians. The war is on.

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    Overracting?!? That's laughable velik. I assume it's safe to say that your not a Jew living in Israel.
    What does Iran, hezbulla, Hamas the PLO and many Muslim terrorists have in common with Nazi Germany? The elimination or extermination of Israel and/or the Jewish race.
    Once again the Jews are facing rogue Nations and groups of terrorists whose agenda is to wipe them off the face of the earth and you say they're overracting?
    The main difference in their goal is one of Muslim supremacy instead of Aryan supremacy.

    They're not overracting, they're fighting for the very survival of their Nation!
    yeah, they are just securing their "lebensraum". Their existance is endangered by barbaric masses that souround them and their elimination is the only solution. And all they have is state of the art army and nukes to defend themselfs.

    you don't think it's overreaction to start a full scale war over one kidnapped soldier?

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    Here's the call

    Missile, not drone, hit Israeli warship 24 minutes ago

    JERUSALEM - A missile fired by Hezbollah, not an unmanned drone laden with explosives, damaged an Israeli warship off Lebanon, the army said Saturday.

    The attack late Friday alarmed Israel because initial information indicated the guerrillas had used a drone for the first time to attack Israeli forces.

    But the army's investigation showed that Hezbollah had fired an Iranian-made missile at the vessel from the shores of Lebanon, said Brig. Gen. Ido Nehushtan.

    "We can confirm that it was hit by an Iranian-made missile launched by Hezbollah. We see this as very profound fingerprint of Iranian involvement in Hezbollah," Nehushtan said in an interview with The Associated Press.
    yahoo

    Not sure where Joch is getting the 100 Iranian troops story from? FAUX NEWS??

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    I've already said this.
    Well, it was breaking news to me because I took a break from the forum to get some sleep.

    sorry dan

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    Well, it was breaking news to me because I took a break from the forum to get some sleep.

    sorry dan
    It doesn't take much sophistication to fire either a Fajr-3 or a Fajr-5 missile. The missile that supposedly has struck two Israeli cities now.

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    you don't think it's overreaction to start a full scale war over one kidnapped soldier?
    You don't really think that what's going on in the Middle East is because of that single incident, do you?

    (saying no will keep you out of the certifiable category)

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    Your right, it is about more than about one incident

    "Gaza, itself, the latest phase, began on June 24. It was when Israel abducted two Gaza civilians, a doctor and his brother. We don't know their names. You don’t know the names of victims. They were taken to Israel, presumably, and nobody knows their fate. The next day, something happened, which we do know about, a lot. Militants in Gaza, probably Islamic Jihad, abducted an Israeli soldier across the border. That’s Corporal Gilad Shalit. And that's well known; first abduction is not. Then followed the escalation of Israeli attacks on Gaza, which I don’t have to repeat. It’s reported on adequately."

    So basically by not reporting about the Gaza abductions but about the kidnapped IDF soldiers, the media is saying this: Israel has the "Right to defend herself" but the Palestinians DO NOT.
    Democracy Now

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    Not sure where Joch is getting the 100 Iranian troops story from? FAUX NEWS??

    Not Faux nNews dan, I don't do CNN. It was reported on Fox.

    The missle that hit the warship is reported to have been a CAO2 chinese made, laser-guided missle with 300 lbs of explosives.

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    Israeli troops amassing along the Lebanese border...

    BEHIND a protective canopy of trees an Israeli 155mm artillery battery fills the valley with gunsmoke and decibels, blasting 100lb s s northwards toward invisible targets across the Lebanon border.

    A few miles away, another unit huddles beneath foliage, guarding hundreds of 4.5m (15ft) Texan-manufactured Haz rockets being readied to blow something or someone into pieces.

    Artillery, rockets, tanks and Humvees are massing on Lebanon’s southern border as Israel reveals the true extent of its ambitions. It is determined not merely to punish Hezbollah, but to destroy it once and for all as a military threat.
    Times Online

    Looks like we could have ourselves a ground war.

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    Your right, it is about more than about one incident

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    "Gaza, itself, the latest phase, began on June 24. It was when Israel abducted two Gaza civilians, a doctor and his brother.
    Oh, okay, 2 incidents. And of course you do have information that the Israeli abductions were without previous provacation, yes? (I'm betting no)

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    ...and your saying foreign state abductions without any due process are OK? What if France considered you a possible threat and kidnapped you? What if the US just let it happen?

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    Here's the call



    yahoo

    Not sure where Joch is getting the 100 Iranian troops story from? FAUX NEWS??
    Maybe he got it from... the link you just posted. Have you ever read an entire news article? Or do you just glance over the heavily edited versions you scurry over here to post?

    The intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information, said about 100 Iranian soldiers are in Lebanon and helped fire the Iranian-made, radar-guided C-102 at the ship late Friday.

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    ...and your saying foreign state abductions without any due process are OK? What if France considered you a possible threat and kidnapped you? What if the US just let it happen?
    The Gaza Strip isn't a "foreign state". It's not a State at all.

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    Maybe he got it from... the link you just posted. Have you ever read an entire news article? Or do you just glance over the heavily edited versions you scurry over here to post?
    So the primary source is an Israeli intelligence official. No bias there.

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    The Gaza Strip isn't a "foreign state". It's not a State at all.
    Only because Israel refuses to recognize it. Which is a whole 'nother discussion.

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    So the primary source is an Israeli intelligence official. No bias there.
    You're the one that sourced the article. I guess you'd better stick with articles from the Democratic Underground so you don't have to deal with any of those pesky 'facts' that torture you so.

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