Feeling Safe in Your Own Home

[angel_luv]

Not likely that the guy is going to come back.

And I have no gun.

[Melmart1]

And I don't know that he isn't coming back, but I can't let some crackhead run me out of my house. But thanks for reminding me that he could be back, asswipe. Like I didn't know!

[ShoogarBear]

This is my rifle, this is my gun . . .

[ALVAREZ6]

No, I definitely got it Melmart, and I understand you don't want to be reminded by this or what could happen. I'm just saying that if I were in your position, I'd do anything that would help to avoid this or anything like it in the future. I never said move to another neighborhood or anything like that, but maybe leaving the rotweiler's inside would be a good idea.

[Jekka]

And you're laughing about it?



How do you know that er isn't coming back? I'd buy a gun.

What a fabulous thing to tell someone who just suffered a trauma, as if she hasn't been thinking about that already

[ALVAREZ6]

What a fabulous thing to tell someone who just suffered a trauma, as if she hasn't been thinking about that already

I know, but I hope she does something about it. I'm not saying it will happen again, but any little thing you can do to prevent something like this is worth it. Don't you?

[Melmart1]

I know, but I hope she does something about it. I'm not saying it will happen again, but any little thing you can do to prevent something like this is worth it. Don't you?

Dude, I don't get your logic AT ALL. I know he could come back. Don't you ing think I know this!?!?!?! Don't you think I have what could happen if he came back passing through my head a million times already. I think about it. I think about it ALL THE ING TIME in the last two days. But I also have to be strong and try not to think about it so much so I can move on. Monday means work work work and life goes on. I can't sit here planning all day for something that likely will never happen. That's just insane.

And my roommate and I are taking measures already, as I already said in this thread. So I don't get why you feel the need to think that your posts are helping anything.

[ZStomp]

I have 3 guns.

[braeden0613]

if you need it, take a gun safety class then buy a gun

[ALVAREZ6]

I have 3 guns.

Says the guy who also said:

Statistics show that your are more likely to get killed by a loved one or someone you know than a stranger.

So it makes sense. How often does an intruder get into your house?

How often do family members get so pissed off to the level of killing at loved ones/someone they know?

more Violence happens this way....unfortunately

[ALVAREZ6]

if you need it, take a gun safety class then buy a gun

Preferebly an AK

[ZStomp]

Says the guy who also said:

What's your point?

I don't get it.

I am in control of me and my guns.

If not, I don't think I would have been given a gun for my job.

[Clandestino]

I sorta knew this might turn into a gun debate and that's fine. But Clandestino, keep that bull in the Political Forum. I don't have the patience or peace of mind to deal with that horse right now. you and your politics.

i merely responded to others postings about legalities... i didn't start it.. anyway, go yourself

[Melmart1]

i merely responded to others postings about legalities... i didn't start it.. anyway, go yourself

NOBODY mentioned liberals, conservatives etc. YOU did cus that's all you seem to do, is find an opening to bash a liberal. YOU go yourself, asshole. This is not a political debate.

[Clandestino]

rights of criminals.. guns in homes... hmmm... seems political to me...

[Melmart1]

.. and yet nobody bashed a political part or affiliation until YOU came in...

[Clandestino]

i just made a comment... don't get your panties in a wad...

[Slomo]

I tend to agree with Ploto on this one.

Statistics show that your are more likely to get killed by a loved one or someone you know than a stranger.

So it makes sense. How often does an intruder get into your house?

How often do family members get so pissed off to the level of killing at loved ones/someone they know?

more Violence happens this way....unfortunately

Sounds logical to me, plus let's not forget the other way people get killed by guns: accidents. A lot (most?) gun owner do not handle/treat/store their weapons correctly. And even those who do will have the occasional accident.

So I tend to agree with Ploto on this one.

[Notorious H.O.P.]

When they install your alarm, make sure they leave the audible alarm on. When I activated my alarm, they disabled the speaker in the attic. Not sure why. I thought it was a mistake until I found out that they disabled a friend's speaker also. Otherwise, without an audible alarm to act as a deterrent, it's not going to help you the first few minutes if there is someone in the house.

The burglar bars will help a lot so take some comfort in that. If someone comes into your neighborhood looking to break into a house, they'll choose the easiest mark. In this case, that is not your place.

And if you do at some point decide to consider a gun (as unlikely as it is), consider the same thing regarding audible deterrents. First, you can announce you have a gun (although this might prompt a criminal to get ready to use his if he has one). And next or instead, you can put a shot into a wall or floor. If the guy is smart, he runs. If he is an idiot and still comes in after you, then pulling the trigger once already in a panic situation makes it less likely you'll freeze up in case you have to pull the trigger a second time if they try to come into your room.

[ploto]

Any stats you find will be biased- of course- but here goes:

Numerous surveys over the last 40+ years have found that almost half of all households have at least one gun owner.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactShe...ad.aspx?ID=126


In the New England Journal of Medicine article "Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home" by authors Arthur L. Kellermann, Frederick P. Rivara, Norman B. Rushforth, Joyce G. Banton, Donald T. Reay, Jerry T. Francisco, Ana B. Locci, Janice Prodzinski, Bela B. Hackman, and Grant Somes, the conclusions of the published article are

"Rather than confer protection, guns kept in the home are associated with an increase in the risk of homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance." [11]
http://www.answers.com/topic/gun-pol...-united-states

For every time a gun is used in a "home" in a legally-justifiable shooting [note that every self-defense is legally justifiable] there are 22 criminal, unintentional, and suicide-related shootings. [Kellermann AL, Somes G, Rivara FP, et al. "Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home." The Journal of Trauma. 1998;45:263-267]

The presence of a gun in the "home" triples the risk of homicide in the "home". [Kellermann, AL, Rivara, FP, Rushforth NB, et al. "Gun ownership as a risk factor for homicide in the home." N Engl J Med. 1993;329:1084-1091.]

The presence of a gun in the "home" increases the risk of suicide fivefold.[Kellermann, AL Rivara FP, Somes G, et al. "Suicide in the home in relation to gun ownership." N Engl J Med. 1992;327:467-472.]

[JoeChalupa]

Glad to hear you are okay. I've thought about having a gun but with two young daughters in the house..no way. I know there are safety courses and all that but I've decided against it. I do have my trusty combat knife at the ready though. I know it can't match up against an intruder with a gun but it is my weapon of choice.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Damn! Sorry to get here late, but I'm glad you're okay Mel. This guy clearly wasn't a criminal mastermind so take comfort in the fact that it's just a matter of time before either the police or simple Darwinism catches up with him. Sounds like you're taking all the right steps to make your place safer. Things will get back to normal for you, it's just going to take a little time.

If it'll make you feel any better I'll beat down any bald, hispanic males I see today. This guy probably isn't hiding out in Houston but why take chances?

[MannyIsGod]

Any stats you find will be biased- of course- but here goes:

Numerous surveys over the last 40+ years have found that almost half of all households have at least one gun owner.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactShe...ad.aspx?ID=126


In the New England Journal of Medicine article "Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home" by authors Arthur L. Kellermann, Frederick P. Rivara, Norman B. Rushforth, Joyce G. Banton, Donald T. Reay, Jerry T. Francisco, Ana B. Locci, Janice Prodzinski, Bela B. Hackman, and Grant Somes, the conclusions of the published article are

"Rather than confer protection, guns kept in the home are associated with an increase in the risk of homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance." [11]
http://www.answers.com/topic/gun-pol...-united-states

For every time a gun is used in a "home" in a legally-justifiable shooting [note that every self-defense is legally justifiable] there are 22 criminal, unintentional, and suicide-related shootings. [Kellermann AL, Somes G, Rivara FP, et al. "Injuries and deaths due to firearms in the home." The Journal of Trauma. 1998;45:263-267]

The presence of a gun in the "home" triples the risk of homicide in the "home". [Kellermann, AL, Rivara, FP, Rushforth NB, et al. "Gun ownership as a risk factor for homicide in the home." N Engl J Med. 1993;329:1084-1091.]

The presence of a gun in the "home" increases the risk of suicide fivefold.[Kellermann, AL Rivara FP, Somes G, et al. "Suicide in the home in relation to gun ownership." N Engl J Med. 1992;327:467-472.]

Thank you for responding Ploto. Thats pretty interesting evidence. The latter 2 are not suprising to me, because introducing a lethal weapon will lead to further death but I believe in those 2 stories there are further cir stances that make them extraordinary especialy when dealing with the suicide stats.

The first study really peaks my curiosity though. I wonder how the study was conducted. I may look for more studies that look at the situation because thats not what I expected at all.