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No problemo ; I'm not worried by the Dallas Mavericks
look at all these spurs fans coming in here talking when suns and mavs fans are doing alright together talking about the game...hilarious...leave it to spurs fans to try and derail the convo to claim the spotlight when no one gives a about their team in this thread
No problemo ; I'm not worried by the Dallas Mavericks
I quick look at the boxscore would certainly back up my earlier claims of this Suns defense being much improved. Dallas scored 101 points on 41% shooting from the field, 5% worse than their seasonal percentage. Suns forced 18 turnovers, four more than the Mavericks 13.8 seasonal average.
Once again, the Suns loss was two-fold: Allowed too many offensive rebounds (15, which actually isn't too bad for them) and their inability to handle the Mavericks pressure defense. Suns shot 51% from the field and 64% from range, but they committed 21 turnovers, six more than their seasonal average.
Anyways... good game. These stats don't mean as much in a loss, but I am really happy with the Suns defensive effort tonight. Maybe in the long run it's not enough, but watching this game, I didn't get the sense like they weren't trying their hardest. I didn't finish the game thinking they could have won had they played any defense. It was the exact slugout of a game I'd hoped for to guage the Suns ability. Yes, they failed to win it, but in year's past, they weren't even in games like this, let alone battling it out for 40 minutes of a 48 minute game. Save for four minutes to end the first quarter and four minutes in the middle of the fourth, they played both ends and did so with great effort and effectiveness.
Next game... I hope
Anytime the Suns are outrebounded is likely a loss. They have to be at least even or close on the boards to win the game plus those turnovers don't help still it was only a 2 point loss. Tomorrow we get to play Starbury and the hapless Knicks.
That's because neither fanbase has really anything to complain about. One shot here or there... That's it. That's the difference. Home team one by a bucket.
That's what's supposed to happen when two (near)equal teams slug it out.
One bucket...
It's in Phoenix, it's probably the other way around. We'll just have to wait to find out.
this is true...hey, the mavs/suns play against each other only three times this year right?
All I want to say is that I ban Mavs fans from using FT attempts to counteract complaints by opposing teams. Suns shot 8 less FTs but had 7 more fouls than the Mavs. From now, I want do demand that posters only discuss officiating in terms of total personal fouls.
There were times tonight where Dirk/Diop went over the back to grab an offensive rebound and then got fouled, which is much more important than simple FT attempts. Fouls such as ones where Devin Harris is untouched and at the FT line for a 3-point opportunity mean more in personal fouls and changes of momentum than what can be measured in simple FT attempts. Also, cheap fouls on Marion which led to him getting 5 fouls give a nice look to Dirk for the game winner.
I'm not even going to get into specifics related to this game, but touch fouls that get Kurt Thomas 3 first quarter fouls and get Devin Harris to the line late in the game affect a lot more in the game than what is measured in the stats.
All-in-all, great game... I'm pissed... goodnight.
excuses are like.....its getting old
did the refs make Dirks last shot go into the basket?
2 more games left. One in Phoenix and one in Dallas.
its fine to be able to defend for the first three quarters. but if you cant make key defensive stops at the end of the game, how can you consider yourself a good defensive team? the Mavs made big stops, and the Suns didnt. the Suns still don't play good enough defense to win a championship. if you cant make key stops at the end of the game, you cant win a championship. thats a fact.
Explain Game 6 of the NBA Finals. Terry had a wide open 3 and missed.
you, you little ass pussy. its a ing regular season game. blame your team for not being able to make key defensive stops. not the refs you faced bas . go yourself.
Mavs fans are enough to make me hate everything about the city I live in (Dallas).
first, misses happen from time to time. but you cant count on that happening every game.
second, that has nothing to do with the fact that the Suns still dont have a good defense.
third, whoever was defending him grabbed his jersey when he shot it. he still could have made it, but it wasnt like there was absolutely no one around him or anything like that.
Spurs fans are enough to nearly make me hate humans in general for how stupid and braindead that humans are capable of being.Mavs fans are enough to make me hate everything about the city I live in (Dallas).
Spurs fans, I apologize. THIS GUY is the
BIGGEST
PUSSY
EVER!
You're a ing re - they played defense and good defense.
15 offensive rebounds - 5 of them were on over-the-back non-calls by Dallas - 3 of those led to FTs by the Mavs.
You're the ing -faced, mother ing, can't hack it, -loving, no-knowledge, pussy as that can't see past a post stating that I'm sick of Mavs fans' only defense being FT attempts when fouls (whether called or not) are the largest complain among Suns, Spurs, and Mavs fans.
Suns held your pussy ass team to 41% shooting on your home floor. They just had lapses in defense and rebounding during stretches (no pun intended on your gay-ass name) in the 1st and 4th quarters... all of which added up to a 2-point loss on a good shot and ty in-bounds play.
you, you sucking got and start reading/listening to people's arguments rather than crowning your teams champions over a game that could have gone either way.
I'll admit I was hoping for OT.
just ignore him, he acts like his team's fanbase doesn't talk , ing homer, trying to derail the thread and make us remember the spurs, they'll get theirs next friday, this thread is not about the spurs
anyways, the fact is, this was a regular season game. lets wait till the playoffs before any real trash talking occurs. it was a great, entertaining game, and the Mavs prevailed this time. the game is over, and its time to move on. its just the regular season.
What the are you talking about both sun's fan and mavs fun are having a good talk(besides stretch recently), then some spur fans come in here talking about their last three rings....Mavs fans are enough to make me hate everything about the city I live in (Dallas).
Yes I know I remember seeing Payton pulling the veteran move. The Suns defense has improved but it still needs to be more consistent. Overall I have no problem with thier defense.
Did anyone said PUSSY???
stats are great. but the stats dont matter. the win is all that matters. you are not judged by your stats. 10 years later, people dont remember stat lines for games. people remember who won. the mavs made the plays needed to win, and the won. game over. off.
AND I'M the PUSSY??? You and Ponky can go have the biggest -ass, sucking, ugly, fat, and douchiest love-child of all time and I still won't be happy.
If anyone disagrees with me in that Devin Harris got 2 3-pt opportunities on touch fouls then stop watching basketball because the sport doesn't deserve such stupidity.
Almost as much stupidity as that in-bounds play with 1.3 seconds left... Nash was WIDE OPEN!!! and they throw to Amare....
i agree. it has improved. i just havent seen them consistently make the big defensive plays and rebounds when needed, against good teams. i like the suns, and i wish them well. ive said it before, if the Mavs dont win it all, i want the Suns to win it all. i just personally dont think that their defense and rebounding is consistently strong enough to win a championship.
All you ever reference is stats - and you make up most of them. How can you not talk about stats when trying to bash the Suns' defense? So they gave up a shot to Howard and Dirk hit a tough shot? That wouldn't happen against the Pistons, who just gave up over 150 to the Knicks. Grow a brain and a sense of self, you muncher.
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