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    The spurs have not won a game Eva has attended

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    you put tp with the lakers
    and tp's assist would go up or dallas
    not only that, the lakers would actually be contenders.

    There is no question Parker is an offensive force, the problem I think is he doesnt fit in with the current team we have now. The current team we have now requires the ball constantly moving around.

    IMO Pop is a ing idiot.

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    I´d really like to know how many players outside Barbosa can create his own shot on the Suns´s team without Nash ?
    I think that it would be difficult to trade Parker with any other team 1on1 .
    Parker is not a franchise player and I would do anything to move him and get Billups next year

    I would trade Parker for Billups in a heartbeat. Billups is so much better than Parker that it is not even a comparison. Billups is super clutch, amazing 3 pt. range, mentally tough as nails, totally clutch, tough defender, can post-up most guards, can penetrate, great foul shooter, great passer, and a LEADER.

    There is simply no comparison. If Detroit FO was on drugs and offered Spurs Billups for Parker, straight up, Spurs would take Billups in two seconds and may even throw in a 1st round draft next year to cement the deal. Unfortunately, Billups will not be traded by Detroit this year or any time in the near future.

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    You put him on ANY team that doesn't run motion, and his assists go up.

    I've seen a team's fans hate on a player before, but I don't think I recall it being an All Star, certainly never an All Star on the Spurs...until now.
    No it wouldn't.....because Kobe will have the ball mos of the times, not Parker.

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    People need to quit bashing Parker, The Spurs are lucky to have a point guard as good as he is.
    He is good.....but not that good....and not good enough for Spurs to win it all unless Manu and Tim play out of their minds in the playoffs and take over.

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    I wonder if the same fans would bash nash, kidd, chauncy the first five seasons of his nba career
    This notion that Parker is still young and learning is bull ......look at Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc....these guys are REAL POINT GUARDS. Do you not understand what PG's are supposed to do? They are supposed to direct the traffic, probe, facilitate, and make everyone better. Parker does not know how to do this. He is a SCORING guard who happens have the ball most of the time and dissappears in the 4th. That is what I am complaining about. Spurs need a real PG who can quaterback the offense and use Parker as a slasher/SG, and forget about relying on Parker to close out the games in the 4th qtr. He doesn't have the mental toughness or the court vision or the passing/probing skills to do this. Let him be the last resort (when plays break down) and he can penetrate when nothing opens up....until then, he should stand aside and let a real PG direct the offense. Just a thought.

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    This notion that Parker is still young and learning is bull ......look at Chris Paul, Deron Williams, etc....these guys are REAL POINT GUARDS. Do you not understand what PG's are supposed to do? They are supposed to direct the traffic, probe, facilitate, and make everyone better. Parker does not know how to do this. He is a SCORING guard who happens have the ball most of the time and dissappears in the 4th. That is what I am complaining about. Spurs need a real PG who can quaterback the offense and use Parker as a slasher/SG, and forget about relying on Parker to close out the games in the 4th qtr. He doesn't have the mental toughness or the court vision or the passing/probing skills to do this. Let him be the last resort (when plays break down) and he can penetrate when nothing opens up....until then, he should stand aside and let a real PG direct the offense. Just a thought.
    So you've done a great job pointing out the problem...what's the real world solution? If you think Tony should get the AI/Snow treatment...who is the "Snow"? And does having an offensively inept distributor in the starting five really increase the Spurs chances of winning a championship?

    You mention Chris Paul, Deron Williams....both extremely talented lottery picks that the Spurs have no chance of getting, without sacraficing Parker. Are you saying you want to get rid of Parker? So again, what's your answer?

    Either the Spurs get an "Eric Snow" or they trade Parker to get your "Jason Kidd"....can't have it both ways.

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    So you've done a great job pointing out the problem...what's the real world solution? If you think Tony should get the AI/Snow treatment...who is the "Snow"? And does having an offensively inept distributor in the starting five really increase the Spurs chances of winning a championship?

    You mention Chris Paul, Deron Williams....both extremely talented lottery picks that the Spurs have no chance of getting, without sacraficing Parker. Are you saying you want to get rid of Parker? So again, what's your answer?

    Either the Spurs get an "Eric Snow" or they trade Parker to get your "Jason Kidd"....can't have it both ways.

    ARe you kidding me? Aside from salary problem, I would dump Parker for Kidd almost as fast as I would for Billups. There are lot of young PG's that I would trade for right now for Parker. I think we can get a very good young PG for Parker and maybe even a draft pick. Trading Parker right now could be a great move for today and future if Spurs FO has the guts to make such a big move, assuming they can get a good deal. , I would even trade Parker for Hinrich if Chicago throws in a first rounder. Don't know about Eric Snow however.....

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    ARe you kidding me? Aside from salary problem, I would dump Parker for Kidd almost as fast as I would for Billups. There are lot of young PG's that I would trade for right now for Parker. I think we can get a very good young PG for Parker and maybe even a draft pick. Trading Parker right now could be a great move for today and future if Spurs FO has the guts to make such a big move, assuming they can get a good deal. , I would even trade Parker for Hinrich if Chicago throws in a first rounder. Don't know about Eric Snow however.....

    I remember recently when Parker got lot of assists (over 10 for sure) and had only 15 points.....that was a blow out win. Parker played like a PG in that game and got everyone involved. Unfortunately, this happens once in a blue moon. I am not sure why Parker cannot learn to be more of a PG because he has all the tools. Also, I can't remember if it was this year or last year when Parker missed a game and Spurs played great and won huge with something like 30 assists......everyone scored.....there was something like 5 players with 10+ pts....does anyone remember the game I am talking about? I think it was also on the road....

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    Don't know about Eric Snow however.....
    Your uncertainty about Eric Snow speaks volumes.

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    Chris Paul for TP? I'd do it.. I'd also trade TP for Chauncy Billups or Mike Bibby..

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    Chris Paul for TP? I'd do it.. I'd also trade TP for Chauncy Billups or Mike Bibby..
    @ Mike Bibby

    You lost it.

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    TP for Smush Parker.

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    Tony - 19.3p, 5.3a, 54%FG (3pt - 48%)
    Bibby - 17.9p, 5.6a, 38%FG (3pt - 29%)

    Last playoffs vs Kings
    Tony - 22/5/51%
    Bibby - 17/5/42%

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    @ Mike Bibby

    You lost it.

    I'd like to see what others think about TP for Bibby.. at least Bibby can knock down jumpshots on a regular basis. he can also pay for teams backing off him or doubling off him..with TP you collapse the lane and the Spurs offense remains in nuetral..with Bibby he would space the floor better..

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    BTW, those of you that are critical of Parker should step up to the plate with a list of point guards you would rather have on this team.
    overall?
    Nash
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    CP
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    Hinrich

    available?
    none, that's why ppl shouldn't so much about Parker

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    Tony Parker is one of the best PG's in the game. You guys would be fools to trade him. What you need is a solid true PG to back him up.

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    Tony - 19.3p, 5.3a, 54%FG (3pt - 48%)
    Bibby - 17.9p, 5.6a, 38%FG (3pt - 29%)

    Last playoffs vs Kings
    Tony - 22/5/51%
    Bibby - 17/5/42%

    yes but Bibby's stats are without Tim Duncan on his side. I think we can both assume that TP's numbers would suffer a bit without Tim Duncan.. have you seen parker's offense when Duncan is not on the floor?

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    yes but Bibby's stats are without Tim Duncan on his side. I think we can both assume that TP's numbers would suffer a bit without Tim Duncan.. have you seen parker's offense when Duncan is not on the floor?
    Okay, you think Bibby's FG% would go up 16% in San Antonio to equal Tony's? You are nuts.

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    Okay, you think Bibby's FG% would go up 16% in San Antonio to equal Tony's? You are nuts.

    Well he would have more open jump shots and yes I think his field goal% would improve. Bibby is a far superior shooter than TP is..

    will you acknowledge the obvious and admit TP's game benefits with TD and would suffer without it? Again I'm nuts because I don't towe the party line..

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    FG is not everything. Probably Bibby would involve the teamates more,more of an option in crunch time,etc, but I still wouldn't trade for Bibby.

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    Well he would have more open jump shots and yes I think his field goal% would improve. Bibby is a far superior shooter than TP is..

    will you acknowledge the obvious and admit TP's game benefits with TD and would suffer without it? Again I'm nuts because I don't towe the party line..
    I would guess you have watched Bibby in quite some time. His shooting sucks these days. I'd guess if you check their jumpshot percentages, Tony's is higher.

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    FG is not everything. Probably Bibby would involve the teamates more,more of an option in crunch time,etc, but I still wouldn't trade for Bibby.

    he would involve his teamates more and be a better crunch time option.. yet you'd keep the guy that does not bring those?

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    TP for Starbury

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    I would guess you have watched Bibby in quite some time. His shooting sucks these days. I'd guess if you check their jumpshot percentages, Tony's is higher.


    I admit have not watched Bibby in a while it just seems like when that guy is on he's lights out. I have the impression of Bibby that he does not have to rely soley on athletic ability to score..

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