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Aww come on, Kevin has been VERY durable, with the exception being the 98-99 season....
Plus, he's a 31 year old superstar who started playing NBA ball at 19. So he has the mileage of a 34/35 year old.
Aww come on, Kevin has been VERY durable, with the exception being the 98-99 season....
Nah KG is fine he will be great for another 3 or 4 years which is the window they need to get a le with Nash being 33.
Honestly, I think that odds are that KG is still a T-Wolf. But I'm hoping that he's a Sun.
I'm not saying he's broken down. I'm just saying it's not that horrible for the Wolves to get rid of him. He's been playing 40 mpg for 12 years straight. That's a lot of NBA miles and it's not horrible for the Wolves to try to get younger and build.
Well Bucher said that he thinks the Haws deal will happen but it sure sounds like the Suns really are conflicted about giving up Amare for KG. The brass is probably fighting about it like crazy as we speak. They were i am sure all giddy at the prospect of Ainge being so dumb he would take just Marion for the 5th pick and help you guys get KG without losing Amare. Looks like even Ainge is not that dumb.
I think they're holding up for something else like Foye or number seven if they give up Amare.
Wait they want KG and the 7th pick for Amare. No way in you said it yourself KG is better than Amare.
Exactly. I don't think that Ker wants to trade Amare (who is immensely popular), without getting a sweet deal.
You are getting back a better player, that sounds like a pipe dream for the Suns. You give up an inferior player, get back a better one and get a top 10 pick. Throw Marion in there for the pick and we'll talk otherwise no chance.
I know that it's a fair trade. But that's just what I think the Suns are holding out for.
Why? Phoenix as it was proposed was the only team to match salaries? They give 20 million, receive 22 million. Works! I suppose if the Suns sent Jones or, preferably, Banks, then they'd still work, but Atlanta is the team really screwing this deal up. They are a few million under the CAP, but, as far as I can tell, not so far that they can absorb an extra five to six million.
Well they just said on ESPN that according to the Suns they are not trading Amare so i guess that is it on the KG front.
I believe that Atlanta is around $4.7 Million under the cap
I believe I read they are $5M under the cap.
NBA 07 Cap was $53.175
Atlanta total salary right now is at $48,421,832
ric bucher on espn just said talks are still going on. apparently, phoenix wasnt in on the original talks, which rather strange to me.
The move obviously put them over the CAP, which is how Belkin was able to veto.
Maybe it would have worked, maybe not. Fact is, the Suns weren't trading their two centers and a 2008 1st that could be a top-10 pick for just Garnett.
think you misunderstood me. the talks are allegedly continuing. the deal is not dead, apparently.
What do they have to give to the Wolves if they are not trading Amare and Marion is going nowhere? The Suns are not getting KG and keeping Amare i think this whole Hawks debacle proves that. Of course they were in on the talks they were ready to ship Marion to Boston as of yesterday to get KG.
Frankly, I'd be shocked if this deal gets carried out.
Hawks front office is too busy bickering with each other.
I've heard from people I trust, that this deal was never considered by Phoenix. They aren't trading Amare to Atlanta, and they certainly aren't parting with Amare, Thomas and 2008's Atlanta pick for Garnett alone. No way.
Kerr isn't stupid. He's not going to get hosed like that. If he trades Amare, it'll be to Boston in a three-way trade. No way they help out the Hawks nor trade that much for just Garnett. I'm baffled why this is still an issue.
Another thing to consider is KG is a good guy who has been a great soldier there. I think he basically feels like if you can get a good deal from the Suns then do it otherwise i will stay. If the Wolves have a better year i am not sold on the idea that he will opt out for sure at the end of the season.
looks like you're right
Official: Chances for 3-team deal overblown
/ Associated Press
Posted: 1 hour ago
Reports the Phoenix Suns were nearing a deal to acquire Kevin Garnett were downplayed Wednesday by an NBA official with knowledge of the situation.
Contrary to several reports, the official told The Associated Press, the sides were not close to a three-team deal that would send Amare Stoudemire to Atlanta and Garnett from Minnesota to Phoenix.
Publicity regarding the Suns' possible acquisition of Garnett had been overblown, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the subject. However, the Timberwolves and Suns have talked about Garnett, the person confirmed.
A more likely scenario would have Phoenix trading up in the order of Thursday's draft, though few teams seem interested in moving down with what's regarded as a deep talent pool available.
Suns officials did not return telephone messages left at their offices on Wednesday, but new general manager Steve Kerr indicated on Tuesday that anything that might happen probably wouldn't occur until Thursday.
"Everything usually comes down to the last minute because everybody's waiting for the home run," Kerr said Tuesday, "and usually no one hits one."
D'Antoni wasn't talking like a coach who expected to lose Stoudemire.
"We can get better with what we have," D'Antoni said, "and we should play better next year. One more year together, Amare's going to get better. We're going to be better. If we can get the end of the bench a little bit better and some of our guys come back ready to roll, then we're automatically better."
D'Antoni long has cautioned against breaking up the nucleus of a team that's won three consecutive Pacific Division les. Stoudemire came back from microfracture surgery on one knee and arthroscopic surgery on the other to make first team all-NBA last season.
Had Stoudemire not been suspended for taking a few too many steps off the bench when San Antonio's Robert Horry sent Steve Nash crashing into the scorer's table, the Suns might have won their Western Conference semifinal series with the eventual NBA champion Spurs.
The scenario being bandied about had the Suns sending Stoudemire to Atlanta, the Hawks shifting their No. 3 pick and other selections to Minnesota, and the Timberwolves shipping Garnett to Phoenix.
The idea gained a bit of credence because Garnett, a good friend of Nash, has said he would like to play for the Suns. But Stoudemire is 24 and Garnett 31. Still, Kerr has told the players that no one on the team is untouchable.
Another supposed deal would send Shawn Marion to Boston, with the Celtics giving Minnesota their No. 5 pick and Garnett coming to Phoenix. Celtics general manager Danny Ainge deflated that report by saying it was "unlikely" Boston would trade its pick.
There was considerable evidence, though, that Phoenix was attempting to acquire a better draft pick. The Suns have the 24th and 29th picks, but many of the players brought to Phoenix to work out for the team are sure to gone before those picks.
North Carolina power forward Brandan Wright and Florida State small forward Al Thornton worked out for Phoenix on Wednesday. That follows workouts Tuesday by two members of the NCAA champion Florida Gators — small forward Corey Brewer and power forward Joakim Noah - along with Georgetown small forward Jeff Green.
"All really impressive kids," Kerr said on Tuesday. "They're compe ors, really good players. That's why they're projected to go in the top 10."
Moving up, if it's possible at all, would not come easily. Phoenix might have to part with the pick it holds from Atlanta next season.
"Of course it's going to come with a price," Kerr said. "So you have to evaluate that, whether it means giving up something in the future, you have to evaluate whether it makes sense."
I just don't see them trading Amare. Not in a lateral move, let alone in a move that weakens them, in my opinion, with an Amare/Thomas/2008 Atl 1st trade.
Trading Marion, sure. Diaw, sure...
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