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  1. #126
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    VY leaves Texas and they're losing to A&M and barely escaping Arkansas State with wins.

    Peyton Manning leaves Tennessee and they immediately win a national championship with Tee ing Martin.

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    Win. Whatever it Takes Whisky Dog's Avatar
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    He still would. He can't throw more than 30 yards down field.


    WTF? The man can stand flat footed and throw 60 yards with just a flip of the wrist. It may not be very accurate yet, but he can fire the er.

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    WTF? The man can stand flat footed and throw 60 yards with just a flip of the wrist. It may not be very accurate yet, but he can fire the er.


    Were you watching a ing Gatorade commercial?

  4. #129
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    Edgerrin James then. big whoop.
    Why, are White/Brown's 170/game not enough for him?

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Why, are White/Brown's 170/game not enough for him?
    All Edgerrin James did for Manning was run the ball?

  6. #131
    I've said it once and I'll say it again - Peyton Manning is all Dungy.
    That's re ed.

    Dungy doesn't have all that much input on the offensive side.
    Tom Moore is the guy who should take credit for Manning's success.

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    Were you watching a ing Gatorade commercial?
    I saw him do it at a practice in Austin. He's got a cannon, it's just not as accurate as need be yet.

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    If he is as great as everyone says, then yes.
    Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, Johnny Unitas, and others didn't do it . . . why would you expect that from Vince Young?

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    Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Brett Favre, Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, Johnny Unitas, and others didn't do it . . . why would you expect that from Vince Young?
    He is Black Jesus afterall. Why wouldn't he do it?

    And naming all those great QBs in the same sentence with Vince Young is just re ed.

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    Let's see what he does against an awful secondary this weekend.

    And to be fair, it's not that I don't think he can become an elite QB. It's just that I think he has a long, long way to go in achieving that.

    As it is now, his mechanics look the same as last year - ugly.

    He should be better in the second half of the season than he is now, though.

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    Let's see what he does against an awful secondary this weekend.

    And to be fair, it's not that I don't think he can become an elite QB. It's just that I think he has a long, long way to go in achieving that.

    As it is now, his mechanics look the same as last year - ugly.

    He should be better in the second half of the season than he is now, though.
    But he beat USC in college.

  12. #137
    He is Black Jesus afterall. Why wouldn't he do it?

    And naming all those great QBs in the same sentence with Vince Young is just re ed.
    I wasn't equating him with them you .

    My point was that all those "greats" didn't have that spectacular start that you want VY to have.

  13. #138
    Let's see what he does against an awful secondary this weekend.

    And to be fair, it's not that I don't think he can become an elite QB. It's just that I think he has a long, long way to go in achieving that.

    As it is now, his mechanics look the same as last year - ugly.

    He should be better in the second half of the season than he is now, though.
    He has to improve, no doubt.
    Give Norm Chow some more time with him.

  14. #139
    But he beat USC in college.
    That he did.

    When was the last time A&M won a le?

    Go ahead, take your time.

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    Young's O-line>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Leinart's O-line

    And Young had a vastly superior running game to help him out last year, not to mention a defense that basically won him a few games. Plus a kicker who can make freak 60 yards to win games, whereas Leinart's kicker choked on two game winning field goals. Nice to see Matt bounce back with a very good game this week too.

    Oh, and Peyton Manning has more clutch ability in his pinky two than Vince does in his entire body. Call me when VY gets a playoff berth let alone leads one of the most prolific playoff comebacks in NFL history en route to a superbowl.
    After that Manning comment, I refuse to discuss football with you any further. You might possibly be the most ignorant person I have ever discussed football with, after reading that comment.

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    That he did.

    When was the last time A&M won a le?

    Go ahead, take your time.
    I wasn't arguing that any A&M QB was better. I'm saying that just because VY aka Black Jesus won one doesn't mean he's going to be a great NFL QB. Ken Dorsey won a National Championship an didn't do as an NFL QB. His numbers were comparable to Vince Young's as a rookie

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    Even Joey Harrington has 16 career starts. What does that matter?
    After 4 or 5 years in the league, Harrington has shown himself to be a spare. However, nobody would give up on a guy after 15 starts with the he was surrounded with in Detroit. Next.

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    amare is black jesus.

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    Ken Dorsey won a National Championship an didn't do as an NFL QB. His numbers were comparable to Vince Young's as a rookie
    VY - 19 total TD's, 13 INT
    Dorsey - 6 total TD's, 9 INT

    real comparable.

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    VY - 19 total TD's, 13 INT
    Dorsey - 6 total TD's, 9 INT

    real comparable.
    But wins are all that matters.

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    You gotta be kidding me. I always thought the not-clutch label as applied to Peyton was a little unfair, but VY has more than earned that le. I'll call you next week after Vince Young gets his 16th NFL start. Manning's only a 9-year vet.
    No doubt that VY is a clutch player, but to say that he's more clutch than Manning is absolutely absurd. If it's in the fourth quarter with two minutes to go, there's no way you could tell me with a straight face that you'd rather have Vince under center than Peyton.

    Who knows if Vince will ever win a superbowl? He's certainly off to a good start landing in Tennessee under Jeff Fisher.

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    I wasn't arguing that any A&M QB was better. I'm saying that just because VY aka Black Jesus won one doesn't mean he's going to be a great NFL QB. Ken Dorsey won a National Championship an didn't do as an NFL QB. His numbers were comparable to Vince Young's as a rookie
    I dig on what you're saying about the national championship and all that. But, we're not saying that he's going to be a good/great NFL QB because of his college exploits. We're using his current play as our basis for that judgement.

    But, comparing him with Ken Dorsey . . . what the ??

    Dude, you know that was bull .

  23. #148
    But wins are all that matters.
    You don't want to go down that road.

  24. #149
    VY - 19 total TD's, 13 INT
    Dorsey - 6 total TD's, 9 INT

    real comparable.
    LOL @ using rushing stats to justify a quarterback. Granted Vince is way better than Dorsey, but the quarterback is paid to throw the football.

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    No doubt that VY is a clutch player, but to say that he's more clutch than Manning is absolutely absurd.
    He's more clutch than Manning was after one year in the NFL. , he's more clutch than Manning was after his first EIGHT years in the NFL.

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