Mavericks file protest over loss to Pacers

[Findog]

Un...the severity of the punch has nothing to do with it you ...

You know who would agree with you, stain? Mark Cuban.

Read the NBA rulebook sometime...you'll be less stupid.

People say and do stupid things in the heat of a playoff series, such as cursing out an opposing player, or trying to wish away a valid suspension. That interview is proof positive. He was upset about a key player being suspended. He didn't stand behind those remarks and retracted them.

When Jason Terry was suspended for throwing a punch last year, our only argument was whether or not he actually threw a punch. If he did, all involved, including Jason knew and understood what the punishment would be and why.

What more do you want? Nobody is ever allowed to say "On second thought, I was wrong. I'd like to retract those remarks." I would think you of all people would especially want this protection. I'd hate for you to have to live by that same standard, we might be spared some Brent Barry = GOAT arguments.

Closed Fist = Suspension. Period. Per the rule book. Now either Cuban didn't know the rule, which makes him an even bigger ass since he is so critical of the officiating...or else he was saying the rule shouldn't be enforced against his team you idiot.

Or Option Three, he said something stupid in the heat of a playoff series and a Spurs-Mavs faceoff. Good thing whottt doesn't hold himself to the same standard, since as we all know, the Mavs can't beat the Spurs without shady officiating and Brent Barry is the GOAT.

There's no two ways about it...

Maybe in whottt land.

Closed Fist = Suspension. Period.

Duh. You know who agrees with you? Mark Cuban. Keep debating with yourself, it's quite amusing.

which makes your entire, concerned about the integrity of the officiating argument on his behalf... ing stupid.

It would make his concerns about the integrity of officiating hypocritical if he stood behind that interview. He didn't.

Baby steps my friend...first you must reliaze you're stupid, before the healing can begin...say it to yourself, "I am stupid, and I want to get better

Psychological Projection is a defense mechanism in which one attributes to others one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the ego recognize them.

[Findog]

You have the lost this argument, you have lost it badly...continue trying to win it, futiley, at the expense of your own credibility...what little you have...

Wait, is this whott lecturing others about credibility? The guy who thinks the Spurs are always playing 5 on 8 when the opponent is Dallas, the guy who writes 1,300 word essays about the greatness of Brent Barry, and the guy who thinks the war in Iraq is a good idea? That whottt?

[Obstructed_View]

If the league actually listened to Cuban and implemented the changes he wanted, it would have the same impact on the Mavericks as 29 other teams. It wouldn't give his team alone some sort of advantage over other teams.

It only becomes important to him after his team loses. He was at the forefront of the handchecking rule changes because the Mavericks were an offense oriented team that couldn't get past the Spurs' defense.

It just reinforces that you don't trust him and have a low opinion of him. That's fine, you are a fan of another team and you find much of his public behavior obnoxious. Whatever. It's human nature not to be as vocal or loud about blown calls that benefit your team. Mark Cuban isn't alone in that regard. It doesn't mean that he's not sincere about implementing changes that would result in better officiating all around. There's never going to be a perfectly officiated game. Refs are human, you can't completely eliminate human error. That's not the point.

You know damn well I've been a fan of the Mavericks for a long time before he showed up. My low opinion of him has taken years to develop, and it's due to the predictability of his personality, not some flaw in mine. Mark Cuban isn't alone in being a homer for his team, but I'm damn sure going to call him a liar when he tries to make it look like he gives a about anything that happens to anyone other than the Mavericks. As mentioned before, the evidence is hugely in my favor.

Considering that eliminating handchecking didn't do us much good in the Finals, how did that work out for us? It wasn't "eliminate handchecking when we play the Spurs," it was eliminate handchecking for all 30 teams. I would argue that that was much more of a reaction to those Knicks-Heat late nineties partial-birth abortions than it was about beating a particular team. This is the product he and other owners wanted to put out on the floor. And the Spurs have won two les since the new rules went into effect. I think it's much more accurate to say that being able to play defense is at a higher premium now, and the Spurs have benefited as much or more than most teams.

Mark Cuban was very proud of those rule changes when he thought it got the Mavericks past the Spurs. That it bit him in the ass a few weeks after he crowed about it doesn't change the fact that he had the Spurs in mind when he supported the change. That he didn't understand that the Spurs don't defend with their hands is understandable, as he doesn't know very much about basketball. Again, Cuban's petulant at ude and back-handed public comments about David Stern and the NBA show that he's not really as concerned about the good of the game as you'd like people to believe.

So, in other words, even though I have to reluctantly agree with him on this, I will take potshots at him because of past actions that I didn't like. The net result of this is that if some procedure is put into place to prevent this kind of mishap from happening again, at some point down the road, a Maverick is going to get a long two correctly called instead of being erroneously awarded a three. I defy you to find a quote from anybody, anywhere, calling or begging to have a blown call in their favor reversed. It doesn't mean they wouldn't necessarily be opposed to changes that would improve officiating across the board.

Not even close. The fact that he happens to be correct this one time doesn't change that he's done this multiple times before, and only when they go against his team. Despite the fact that he sat there yelling at the officials during every timeout, he always has his "good of the league" and "improve the process" schpiel ready to throw out to the press. Mark Cuban's track record speaks very clearly for him. It's not my fault you choose not to see it.

[Findog]

It only becomes important to him after his team loses. He was at the forefront of the handchecking rule changes because the Mavericks were an offense oriented team that couldn't get past the Spurs' defense.

And Mark Cuban alone got those changes through? He didn't have the support of other owners on the rules and compe ion committee? He got those other owners to support him because his anti-Spurs agenda wasn't very transparent?

You know damn well I've been a fan of the Mavericks for a long time before he showed up. My low opinion of him has taken years to develop, and it's due to the predictability of his personality, not some flaw in mine.

I don't defend or admire everything about the man, and you know damn well I don't reflexively "suck his " over everything he does. Cursing out Bruce Bowen is wrong. Hazing the refs during a game has surely backfired on him and his team.

Mark Cuban isn't alone in being a homer for his team, but I'm damn sure going to call him a liar when he tries to make it look like he gives a about anything that happens to anyone other than the Mavericks. As mentioned before, the evidence is hugely in my favor.

I think he wants to make money, and he can't do that if fans have little confidence in officiating overall, or if the NBA isn't as viable or as healthy as it could be.

[PoleSmoking]

Why did you get the got out of your name?

I didn't. The wonderful censors at Spurstalk apparently deemed it inappropriate/offensive and went right ahead & removed it for me. I didn't have to lift a single finger.

With that said, I would like to take this opportunity to publicly say thank you Spurstalk moderators, for protecting us all from the evils of sexuality and hate-speech. LOL.

It always amazes me how cowed and frightened and gutless people really are when you get down to the nub. It's just a word, just a sound ... but, oh no! We can't have THAT word on Spurstalk. Pretty funny.

[monosylab1k]

I didn't. The wonderful censors at Spurstalk apparently deemed it inappropriate/offensive and went right ahead & removed it for me. I didn't have to lift a single finger.

With that said, I would like to take this opportunity to publicly say thank you Spurstalk moderators, for protecting us all from the evils of sexuality and hate-speech. LOL.

It always amazes me how cowed and frightened and gutless people really are when you get down to the nub. It's just a word, just a sound ... but, oh no! We can't have THAT word on Spurstalk. Pretty funny.

I get where you're coming from, but they also let us get away with so much crap that wouldn't fly on most other sports forums.

[Reggie Miller]

In the final analysis, you're going to look like a sore loser when you protest a November loss to the 2007-08 Pacers. It's a fact, Jack. We're not good even when J.O. has been in the games, and he may be out for a while.

They did beat Portland last night, so we will get at least 20 wins this season.

[spurscenter]

Terry initially told team officials that he didn't punch Finley. The video proved him wrong. Once that was established, they stopped making such a stink about him having to sit out G6.

http://www.blogmaverick.com/2007/05/...es-in-the-nba/




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