Greatest International player of all Time?

[sendman]

And I'm saying right now? I take the Lithuanians over the Slovenians with their current lineups...


Show me something Slovenia...

I know ya'll are some big tall mother ers that drink and play basketball...but I don't think ya'll drink and play basketball as well as the Russians(and their former territories).


When Rasho and Beno get drunk they suck ass the next day...the Lithuanians have proven they can get drunk and still bring it the next day.


Prove it...all I'm sayin.


Edit: I do give Vlade credit for proving you can smoke and play basketball at a good level...but so far he's the aberration. And he's not a Slovene...

Show us something Slovenia. Right now Slomo is the only one showing he's got game.

Man, Slomo is playing with you. Is Lasko the thing he showed you?
Slomo did you good, but it's allways the quiet ones. Ask that MoFo about Viliamovka, Medica or šnops.
Dude, now we are talking real stuff!

[whottt]

Before you declare a war on Slovenia because of two individuals please at least read what I wrote and then call me out.
It must be my damn English again.

I like Slovenians...but that's neither here nor there.

You guys got like 10 players in the NBA...I think Lithuania has 2 or 3 maybe...I don't even recall Slovenia making the Olympics in 04...but Lithuania damn sure did, in fact they hung a loss on our asses.


Biggest thing I see...is you guys are in such a hurry to proclaim your players National Heroes...that ya'll overlook when they slack. They know they can slack and still be National Heroes.


The Russians didn't do that...if Sabonis sucked in a big game he would have been a national disgrace and had to eat piss borcht for a month.

[sendman]

I don't think Slovenia has any oil.

I think you would bomb us, you just can't find us on the map!

[whottt]

how many international player do you know and see their play before 1990?

I know the ones I needed to know...read some of my older posts...I might shatter your ignorant American stereotype. I can play the Ugly American on command though...and frankly, it's fun.


Anyway...you can read my list of the top 5 in this thread and make your judgement there...please notice, I included some Yugos on my list....and then was asked if I'd ever heard of those same players in the very next post..as I was being called stupid.

[Extra Stout]

I think you would bomb us, you just can't find us on the map!

We're not smart, but our bombs are!

[sendman]

We're not smart, but our bombs are!

I'm not saying that you are not smart, I'm saying that we are that small!

As for that bomb smartness...I don't think so. If you throw a bomb on us, you will damage Italy, Austria and Hungary.
Croats are damaged by default, so no worries there.

[Extra Stout]

I'm not saying that you are not smart, I'm saying that we are that small!

As for that bomb smartness...I don't think so. If you throw a bomb on us, you will damage Italy, Austria and Hungary.
Croats are damaged by default, so no worries there.

I don't think Austria or Hungary have any oil either. Italy has olive oil, but Exxon doesn't sell that kind.

[whottt]

The Olympics were all that mattered then. Nobody in the USA cared about the World Championships. They were irrelevant here until 2002, when the NBA put on a marketing blitz as part of its ongoing campaign to globalize the game.

To tell you the truth...I don't think anyone really cared about the Olympics either...until we lost.

Of course it makes sense that your media would put the spin on it to make it sound like the great superpower America was really concerned about little Yugoslavia. But we weren't. And if Yugoslavia really had been on the nation's consciousness, especially after the Iron Curtain fell, the response would not have been ominous fear and loathing, but rather admiration, because Americans love the plucky underdog, which is exactly why the Lithuanian team gained such a following in the 1990's.

While you're right that most of America would have probably admired the Yugos...especially since they themselves were in the process of telling the Soviet Union to go eff itself...

There would still have been some changes...I mean, we didn't admire Argentina's pluckiness as they took our Gold.


But it was losing to the Soviets that called for pulling out all the stops(as in Jordan, Magic, Bird) and not even chancing another loss....

[Extra Stout]

I mean, we didn't admire Argentina's pluckiness as they took our Gold.

I did.

[whottt]

I did.

Do you still?

I personally want to whip Argentinas ass in the next Olympics. I love Manu...but still..losing sucks.

[da_suns_fan__]

Overall accomplishments:

1/ Hakeem (2 NBA les, several allstar selections, one of the greatest center ever)

2/ Parker (3 NBA les, 1 MVP Finals, still 25...)

3/ Manu (3 NBA les, 1 sixth man award.... in process)

4/ Nash (2 times MVP, several allsta selections... a great PG but has never played in the NBA Finals)

5/ Dirk (on time MVP, several allstar selection... he led his team to the NBA finals but...... 2007 Golden State)

6/ Mutombo (several times DPOY, one NBA Finals with the Sixers, one of the greatest defensive player out of Georgetown)

7/ Kukoc (3 NBA les, 1 sixth man award, a great shooter)

8/ Drazen Petrovic (no all star, no le but possibly the more gifted of all)

9/ Yao Ming (several all star selections, a dominant force in the paint who fails year after year when Playoffs come)

10/ Sabonis (too bad he didn't enter the league during his prime, Jordan or Isiah would have one less ring)

Mother of all homerisms thread.

Tony Parker is an international point guard.

In 2005, 2006, and 2007, an international point guard was named the NBA's most valuable player (the highest individual award for a basketball player) twice and came in second the third time. He became only the second international player to win the award, and the only international player to win it multiple times.

It wasn't Tony Parker.

In 2005, 2006 and 2007 (and probably 2008), an international point guard led the league in assists. Not only was he the first international player to do so, he did it each year by a comfortable margin.

It wasn't Tony Parker.

In 2005, 2006 and 2007 (and probably 2008), an international point guard was named to the All-NBA first team. The first international guard ever to do so.

It wasn't Tony Parker.

In 2001-2007, an international point guard was named an All-Star (once voted in by the fans) five times.

It wasn't Tony Parker.

In 2006, an international player became the fourth player in NBA history to shoot better than 50% from the field, 40% from three-point range (43.9), and 90% from the line, joining Larry Bird, Reggie Miller and Mark Price.

It wasn't Tony Parker.

An international player is currently second on the all time career frew throw percentage list.

It isn't Tony Parker.

Tony Parker played on three championship teams. He was was named the NBA Finals MVP in 2007. He was selected as an All-Star twice.

To this day, Parker's crowning achievement was marrying tv star Eva Longoria.

[diego]

the link kibic gave of the argentina wc, shows yugoslavia losing to puerto rico in the first round... so when exactly was the unbeaten streak from?

also, kept going from there... the olympic leader board up to 92 reads:

US 9 gold 1 silver 1 bronze
ussr 2 gold 4 silver 3 bronze
yugoslavia 1 gold 3 silver 1 bronze

i know yugoslavia has more WC success (though in 86, they came 3rd behind us and ussr), but from the american point of view, ussr was the bigger threat.

[sendman]

I don't think Austria or Hungary have any oil either. Italy has olive oil, but Exxon doesn't sell that kind.

We have some natural gas, maybe you can at least shoot us with a gun? A small one maybe?

[Extra Stout]

We have some natural gas, maybe you can at least shoot us with a gun? A small one maybe?

We can send in some tacky real estate developers to turn Lake Bled into an eyesore. Is that enough?

[Extra Stout]

Do you still?

I personally want to whip Argentinas ass in the next Olympics. I love Manu...but still..losing sucks.

Admiring them doesn't mean I want the USA to keep losing to them.

[whottt]

how many international player do you know and see their play before 1990?

I just found this post...


The point that lead to this argument was never about how good the Yugoslavian team was...it was about what lead to the creation of the Dream Team. Anything else is just you guys imagining an insult when there was none....until there were some

[sendman]

We can send in some tacky real estate developers to turn Lake Bled into an eyesore. Is that enough?

That would be perfect!

And while you are at it, can you throw in some no good plastic surgeons? They would make a fortune screwing people over.

[Extra Stout]

That would be perfect!

And while you are at it, can you throw in some no good plastic surgeons? They would make a fortune screwing people over.

We'll trade you one money-grubbing California plastic surgeon in exchange for each world-class cardiac surgeon you send us.

[sendman]

We'll trade you one money-grubbing California plastic surgeon in exchange for each world-class cardiac surgeon you send us.

But...But we only have one. And we might need him once we buy him some surgical equipment. We all chipped in last year and we bought him a nice shiny saw. Next year we will buy him a set of needles. He will be good to go then and you can have him as a proof of good will (just provide him with some thread).

[whottt]

I got a better idea...you guys send us Slomo...and we'll send you mouse in return...deal?

[whottt]

the link kibic gave of the argentina wc, shows yugoslavia losing to puerto rico in the first round... so when exactly was the unbeaten streak from?

also, kept going from there... the olympic leader board up to 92 reads:

US 9 gold 1 silver 1 bronze
ussr 2 gold 4 silver 3 bronze
yugoslavia 1 gold 3 silver 1 bronze

i know yugoslavia has more WC success (though in 86, they came 3rd behind us and ussr), but from the american point of view, ussr was the bigger threat.

I notice no Slovene wants to get within a hundred miles of this post...

Thanks Diego...


Argentina > Slovenia

[sendman]

I got a better idea...you guys send us Slomo...and we'll send you mouse in return...deal?

Can he drink?

[Extra Stout]

But...But we only have one. And we might need him once we buy him some surgical equipment. We all chipped in last year and we bought him a nice shiny saw. Next year we will buy him a set of needles. He will be good to go then and you can have him as a proof of good will (just provide him with some thread).

Sorry... but once you get past 20,000 euros per capita, you can't pretend to be poor anymore. The Irish still try that, and they're wealthier than we are.

[sendman]

I notice no Slovene wants to get within a hundred miles of this post...

Thanks Diego...


Argentina > Slovenia

I don't get it. Did anybody wrote that Slovenia is better than any of this big teams?

Our nation is 16 years old. We have 2.000.000 people. What would satisfy your appe e? How big is SA and how many NBA players are coming from that area?
10 Slovenian NBA players, as you said (it's 5 to be correct), apparently is not enough.

But you know all that, you are just playing with me.


So you are saying Argentina is better than USA and it's not annoying?

[Extra Stout]

I don't get it. Did anybody wrote that Slovenia is better than any of this big teams?

Our nation is 16 years old. We have 2.000.000 people. What would satisfy your appe e? How big is SA and how many NBA players are coming from that area?
10 Slovenian NBA players, as you said (it's 5 to be correct), apparently is not enough.

But you know all that, you are just playing with me.


So you are saying Argentina is better than USA and it's not annoying?

SA does not specialize in NBA players. SA specializes in diabetes patients. It is very good at producing diabetes patients.