The Meltdown Will Be Televised

[Holt's Cat]

"not with actually achieving its aims"

WTF? I think the Repugs have accomplished a tremendous amount of their aims, ALL negative. And they are doing their swan-song best to commit the USA and the next Administration to the same , no which party gets the WH.

The GOP you twit. As in limited government.

[Wild Cobra]

yes


i think neocon could be boiled down to a socially liberal (or apathetic) war hawk

That's what it appears when one learns from the media.

A neocon is a democrat who change parties to republican, changing views to like republican ideals more. The term is so misused... What can I say... that's what products like you from the U of I (University of Indoctrination) believe.

What you describe as a social liberal war hawk is a traditional democrat president like JFK. Not a neocon.

[Wild Cobra]

There is NO WAY a TRUE CONSERVATIVE is getting elected this cycle; the masses believe GW to be Conservative - anything resembling him is DOOMED. Conservatives sent Bush, and he betrayed us; the Republican Congress betrayed us; , look at the growth of government under Reagan vs. GNP - that didn't work either.

That is why we cannot vote for another phony conservative. As long as we do, we will not get a real conservative in office again.

As for president Reagan, I'm not sure what you mean about government growth. He expanded the military, but what was a problem?

If the Democrats get both houses, and the WH - with a TRUE BELIEVING liberal, who can sway the masses with his charms and speach like Barack; the damage could be irreversible. Social Security/LBJ's war on Poverty with Medicair and Medicaid - once they start, they cannot be stopped.

I don't see more huge expansions being allowed. Filibusters will occur. Still, the people need to see how truly screwed up the democrats are when they try to exercise power.

Again, not to mention, the WAR IN IRAQ!!!!

I think Obama is a better man than to continue what he says after getting the real briefing. I think he will listen to the generals and let them finish as needed. I do believe he has more integrity and ethics than to allow a downward spiral to occur when he leans more about it. Especially under his watch.

Barack O ing Bama as Commander in Chief. Please WC, for that ALONE you've got to be behind McCain. Or do you believe that we shouldn't be over there? That that hasn't helped keep them from hitting us again?

It comes back to this. I don't want another president Bush. He was good in some areas, and bad in others. I just see McCain as a Mini-Bush!

Like I said, If Hillary is the nominee, I will vote McCain. If Obama is, I might not vote for McCain.

If you are who you say you are, you believe those things. Therefore, you believe that a President that disengages will cause what? More attacks here, right? You willing to sacrifice American lives to bring us to "Rock Bottom"?

We differ on what we believe a president Obama will do. If I believed he would do as you say, I would definitely vote McCain.

Yeah but all the GOP is offering is progression to those same goals, albeit at a slightly slower pace. I would argue that the GOP has doomed itself because its been far too concerned with maintaining power and not with actually achieving its aims.

It has doomed itself, as long as it doesn't embrace conservative ideals as a whole. We cannot allow it to be a leftist group like it's becoming, else we may as well vote demoncrap anyway. They need to know conservatives do not support their actions. That message was heard in the 2006 elections, but now they think they can pass of another RINO. It's not going to wash with many of us conservatives.

The American people by and large want to be left the alone and don't want the government to cause them trouble.

Definitely. This is where Ron Paul is absolutely right.

The GOP has enjoyed a natural advantage in the electorate because of that. Now that advantage has been pissed away as we have had an administration that basically has advance the notion of an imperial presidency and has grown the state to an absurd level. Tax cuts aren't enough.

Tax cuts are not enough, and probably shouldn't be reduce more. They are probably close to optimum under the system we have.

We need reform in everything that is infringing on "the welfare of the people!" Preamble:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Cons ution for the United States of America.

Our government is always doing uncons utional things and allowing them to occur. So many things violate the purpose and scope of the cons ution, which is what the preamble is.

establish Justice:

There isn't any clear violations here I can think of.

insure domestic Tranquility

They fail here. Keyword INSURE, but they don't. They allow activist groups to disrupt the tranquility of private citizens. I could go on, but that's not what I want to focus on.

provide for the common defense

We seem OK here right now.

promote the general Welfare

Big failure. Regulations are more often counterproductive to the general welfare than good for it.

secure the Blessings of Liberty

They fail here too. Our liberties are being overrun all the time. Illegal immigration, excessive government red tape, etc.

We can all think of areas we have issues with, but if you do, keep in mind what the words meant in the 18th century, not by what you think of them today.

Fortunately enough voters are smart enough to figure out that if you borrow it today then there are taxes to pay tomorrow, as well as that you are likely to have greater inflation and higher interest rates long term.

Yes. If you remember, in some of my prior posts, I have said that deficit spending is only OK for recession or war. Not like we have been doing in peacetime for so many years.

I guess the basic problem is that it's rather difficult for a party committed to limited government to govern.

Power corrupts. It's that simple. That's why I really like some of the ideas in "The Articles of Confederation" that didn't make it into our cons ution.

Wow, do people actually think that the war in Iraq has stopped "them from hitting us again"?

Absolutely, but not by itself. We have intelligence from individuals captured and do ents seized. The terrorists are also more concerned to attack us on their turf than here because it is offensive for us to be there to them. They have been focusing their attacks on our military rather than the civilians here.

[RandomGuy]

Here's how the Democratic Primary will go from here on out:

Obama will extend his lead in pledged delegates as February primaries play out

Hillary will narrow the gap with good showings in Texas and Ohio.

Obama will have a delegate lead somewhere around 1750-1650 going into the Convention.

Hillary's ground game at the convention will strongarm enough of the superdelegates to give her an extremely narrow nomination win, despite losing both the pledged delegate and primary popular vote counts.

There will be a repeat of Chicago 1968.

Obama will be pressured to accept the VP nomination. He will refuse.

Obama's core demographics will abandon the Democratic Party in droves. An opportunistic progressive independent candidate (or two) will jump into the race, as much in order to keep defections to McCain to a minimum as for anything else.

Nevertheless, Hillary will lose, and she will go down in history as the presumptive autocrat who fractured the Democratic Party coalition and jeopardized its future to advance her own self-serving ambition.

Fascinating.

[RandomGuy]

It's not the bible thumpers that dislike McCain; he is a pro-life guy, and has been; that is their big litmus test.

Primary gripes of people who don't like McCain are McCain/Feingold, and immigration.

I personally don't have a huge problem with the campaign reform. It was screwed up before, and it's still screwed up. The govt. did it; it is expected. I, frankly, pretty much agree with McCain on immigration. The issue is blown way out of proportion by all kinds of people; , up here in Pennsylvania, where there are VERY few migrant workers, people about them all the time.

Don't want to call people racist, but....

Immigration.

Prescient. Kudos to you for the obvious thing 10+ years on.

[CitizenDwayne]

Immigration.

Prescient. Kudos to you for the obvious thing 10+ years on.

Bingo. McCain made the mistake of not appealing to the racial resentment and warped sense of en lement that now drives the GOP

[DMC]

necro posting RG trying to find a W anywhere in the time continuum he can look

[Blake]

necro posting RG trying to find a W anywhere in the time continuum he can look

That's rich coming from DMC P.I.

[RandomGuy]

necro posting RG trying to find a W anywhere in the time continuum he can look

So desperate.

I'm flattered.