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My mistake. I was thinking of Iceman. GW is the always obsessed with gangsta players and headbands. He disappeared long enough I totally forgot about who he was.
I don't need credibility from you.
My mistake. I was thinking of Iceman. GW is the always obsessed with gangsta players and headbands. He disappeared long enough I totally forgot about who he was.
and read my other posts,i DO bring more to the discussion.....
dont be mad b/c you have 1 on your side and the rest of the board against you
Ghostwriter hasn't said in a while, probably rolling another bob
Ghostwriter hasn't said in a while, probably rolling another Bob
Incredibly stupid trade for Dallas. Now they got a big hole in the middle with Erica Dampier. Teams are going to outrebound those pussies like crazy.
Very true, Dallas gave up a lot of depth here for Kidd, who is what 35, not what he was making a ton of money. Don't get me wrong Kidd is still damn GOOD but he was GREAT in 2003, that is not the Kidd, Dallas is getting.
What the were they tired from? The Spurs went down 3-1. We were ing lucky to take it to game 7. Well, thanks to a Terry nut shot and a Finley hot streak we were able to take it to a game 7.
First time poster but the update on info is that stackhouse will be bought out and will probably resign with the mavs. The Dallas media is going crazy calling this a panic move.
Kidd does best in the motion offense where his passing is key the mavs don't seem to have the slashers needed to make this offense work.
I think the biggest difference this trade makes for the Spurs is its impact on Tony Parker's ability to get into the middle and attack the rim. That's true because, if the deal is consummated, Harris has shown himself to be able to stay in front of Parker and to limit or deter Parker's penetration with his lateral quickness (and his willingness to flop to draw a foul). Perhaps even more significant is the loss of Diop in that equation, since Diop has shown himself to be at least a serviceable shot blocker who can force Tony into bad shots at the rim. Dampier isn't able to make that kind of a difference on defense -- I don't think he's the same sort of long-armed shot blocker that Diop is -- and that should help the Spurs to get some easier baskets against the Mavs. I also think that Diop has shown himself able to make Timmy work on the offensive end by making things difficult without a lot of double-teaming help. Again, I don't think Dampier has that same ability.
Kidd is the best player in the deal, but he fundamentally changes the way the Mavericks defend the Spurs and I'm not sure that change is one that benefits the Mavs (as so many others have said).
Meanwhile, has nobody suggested that the Spurs make a play for Diop this summer?
Age Old saying and still holding true today. Dallas sits on top of the Division along with the upstart Hornets. "If it ain't broke don't fix it"
How about starting with yourself and looking at yourslef in the mirror and saying "self, I will not say anymore stupid comments on SPurstalk for at least today"..That would be a good start.
How the does this guy have a Spur?
The Mavs did not beat the Spurs in '06. The Spurs' big 3 were not 100% and beat themselves (nice foul on Dirk, Manu).
So now the matchups matter.
Good luck with Gasol and Shaq then.
Yea, their getting the Kidd who averaged a triple double in the playoffs last year.
Give me a break with the tired/injured bull . The Spurs just couldn't climb the wall, accept it pansy.
Yeah Harris driving to the basket at will and scoring 20 a game next to Terry didn't help the mavericks at all.
Plays defense like crap.
You forgot to throw that in.
You believe Kidd is what he was and what they gave up was worth it. You know that Harris plays great against the Spurs and he is gone as is one of their better guys to D up Duncan. Kidd is not what he was, he is a step slower, most people agree with this.
Make a play for him NOW!
Assuming this is official, Diop can be traded as an individual player in the next week. NJ is going nowhere in the playoffs - even with this trade they aren't taking BOS or DET. Not to mention Harris as PG adapting to a new system means they likely miss the Playoffs altogether. Diop is a UFA this summer. Do you think that we could get Diop from NJ for Elson's expiring contract and the raptors 2008 2nd + cash or something along those lines . Diop would be a major short term upgrade over Elson... We would also get his bird rights for this summer, which might be nice.
PS. I agree with just about everyone else. This trade makes DAL better against most teams, but worse against the Spurs.
Last edited by pad300; 02-13-2008 at 03:27 PM.
right on....and so what he averaged a triple double in the playoffs last year....he almost HAD to do that to keep his team alive....and that got him how many rings??
Kidd is a good rebounder and will get some steals but will get beat by quicker pgs like Parker.
I would not say he plays defense like crap since he does get a good amount of rebounds and steals and those are added possesions.
In the East man, in the East.the dude only averages a triple double every game....i would say i haft to agree wit ya....
You wanna bet those stats don't go down when he has to play a Jazz, Nugget, Laker, Spurs, Trailblazer, Houston team almost every night?
And even then he is only shooting 36 percent from the floor.
Didn't Duncan average like 35ppg and 14rpg on 70% fg against the mavs in the 06 playoffs? what killed the spurs was going small against the mavs and try to outscore them. Don't forget that Dirk also torched the spurs along with Josh Howard and Jason Terry, now we get a playmaker who can create for others expect Dirks PPG to jump up about 5 more pts.
but he cant STOP parker....that is waht defense is....STOPS...if he cant slow down parker, how do you expect him to steal it from him??
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