Ughhh I’m just more annoyed this means we have to keep the whole friendship crew for another year
Good, tbh.
I'd take KD at a discount price, but giving up too much makes no sense.
Right now the Spurs are a lottery team that just hired a rookie coach, had their franchise player miss almost half the season due to a serious medical issue and their second option played just 4 games together with the franchise player.
No point in trading for KD if we aren't a top3 contender in the next two seasons.
Draft Harper, draft a 3-D wing with #14, get a legit starting PF and a solid Wemby backup. We go from there.
My preferred trade would be getting PJ Washington and Gafford, tbh.
Also, power of friendship crew > RC_Drunkford 's questionable inside info.
Much rather it be Minnesota or even Miami than Houston tbh.
I'd rather have him go to Houston.
They usually up because they're too impatient, with KD onboard there would surely be some more win now moves and that probably won't end well for them.
I didn't read this as the Spurs being out of the running, but instead the Spurs submitted their best offer and told the Suns to go out and find other teams to top it if they could.
KD also has to weigh in on whether he would sign an extension with any of the other teams, and if those teams care.
I think KD told the Suns he wanted the Spurs. I think the Spurs then pulled #14 off the table, possibly replacing it with Sochan. Suns are fielding other offfers hoping they or the other team can convince KD to extend.
i dont even know what the minnesota package looks like. Gobert and Donte? McDaniels and pieces? is randle going to opt in and agree to go to phoenix for a year?
they also arent really flush with draft capital either. i dont see how it makes sense for them.
miami can get there in a package with wiggins, but their top pick this year is #20, and i think the sticking point there might be Suns insisting on Kel'el Ware
houston has the most avenues to strike a deal. sengun wouldnt be on the table in a durant trade (in a booker trade though...), but they can get there in a package with Green and Jabari and have a number of picks they can use
eh, i think its more likely the spurs made their offer and drew the line while the other offers are just more compelling
It makes the most sense from basketball standpoint.
Gobert+DiVicenzo+Dillingham seems like a fair deal and would give Ishbia the illusion of Suns still being compe ive.
Randle package also wouldn't be bad. I doubt Timberwolves trade McDaniels after the season he's had.
my read on this would be Gobert going to Phoenix and Claxton coming to Minny
Im perfectly fine with this. Either KD can be had at a reasonable price or SA stays course. I honestly rather just have pick 2 and 14 (and maybe be able to trade up using 14). Im 100% cool with no KD and HOU giving up their young player(s) and pick(s)
Gobert would give the Suns the center they've desparately needed, and given that the Wolves gave 5 first rounders for him, that would be the Isbhia's way of convincing himself he's recouping the same value he gave up in the trade for Durant
i just really wonder who the trade-up target from 14 would be. i dont think it would be carter bryant, as i think theres already a reasonable chance of him making it to 14. the only ones i could really think of is Kon or Maluach
I've been skeptical from the get go
I think those are the two they'd target.
There are people in the front office who love those guys and believe in them. They think they are right about these players potential. It’s a dangerous game to play - hope it pans out.
still early in the offseason though - no need to panic yet.
I think you nailed it - Kon or Maluach
Spurs using something like 14 + Vassell to grab Kon would be great IMO. Less thrilled about Maluach but I wouldn’t hate it…obviously depends on the trade-up package.
Let’s be honest though: the most likely scenario is SA trades out of the pick entirely and tries to pick up a couple future FRPs
Time to find yourself a new avatar, tbh.
i dont like Vassell + 14 for Kon, personally. think its an overpay. im also not as high on Kon as some here. i like him, but i still have big questions about him on both ends.Spurs using something like 14 + Vassell to grab Kon would be great IMO. Less thrilled about Maluach but I wouldn’t hate it…obviously depends on the trade-up package.
Let’s be honest though: the most likely scenario is SA trades out of the pick entirely and tries to pick up a couple future FRPs
if somebody like bailey or tre is falling, id jump on that though
If KD doesn't want to tank his value and force his way to SA then so be it tbh. Shouldn't get into a bidding war for him.
more like:
Spurs are trying to lowball Suns with a Barnes, Keldon, Wesley, Branham and second round picks offer for KD
Eh, this is copium, but I don't take Shams' comments to mean the Spurs are out of it. He references the possibility of a wild card team coming in - and - all he says is that Phoenix is focused on MIA/HOU/MIN, not that KD would be willing to extend with those places. Which is a necessary part of the equation. He didn't sound definitive at all.
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