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Can you still get the feed? I haven't had it most of the day. Thanks for the correction with those pumps, BTW.
I thought all the pumps were submerged, and then they'd have to be repaired and have the fuel tanks cleaned out before they could use them.
Can you still get the feed? I haven't had it most of the day. Thanks for the correction with those pumps, BTW.
No, they were anticipating under the worst case scenario - the one that didn't happen - they would all be submerged. But there are a few that are operational.
I have faith that these guys know what they're doing and I'm sure they're doing everything they can to minimize loss of life. All the Spurstalk know-it-alls (and there are many) on this board second guessing them need to shut the up.
This picture was taken by Calvin Sylvester in New Orleans of his family's home in the 9th Ward, one of the areas where the pumps failed. The picture was submitted by Francisco Fernandez.
Jim Brown of New Orleans took this picture of Lake Pontchartrain around 2 p.m. Monday.
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Those rescue crews are kicking ass. Here's to them doing more of it.
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She needs a smoke and the other thread about quitting smoking has her feeling guilty.
One thing with all this water, there is going to be one of a crawdad crop next year.
They can't just admit they are ed and can't stop it but they are...
The only quick way I can think to get the breaches sealed ASAP is to get as many functioning dredges as they can and start pumping off the bottom of Ponchatrain and dumping the discharge into the breaches...just make a giant spoil island to fill the holes...those rigs are everywhere up and down the intercoastal...thats how they keep the channels clear...
unfortunately New Orleans is going to be filled to sea level before anything can fix it...
I have faith that these guys know what they're doing and I'm sure they're doing everything they can to minimize loss of life. All the Spurstalk know-it-alls (and there are many
I'm sure they're trying their damnedest. But filling up a hole the size of a football field that's flowing from a flood-heavy lake into a lower area by precision-dropping sandbags from a helicopter when they can use the same helicopters to evacuate refugees seems like a waste of resources to this Monday-Morning Quarterback, anyway.
I hope they're right and I'm wrong, though.
Yeah, that must be it
Either that or drive a load of sheet piling.
yeah, those openings are huge. The thing is, if they do stop them, wouldn't the pressure then increase along the levee everywhere else? There are probably more weakspots that would crumble as well.
Or so I would think, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not an engineer.
I think their line of thinking is using barges loaded with sand and cranes.
Holy . The Spurs signed Nick Van Exel? Man, I gotta work on the tunnel vision.
I'm very surprised they haven't already...
I think thats because the hole in the levee is lessening the water pressure on the rest of the structure.
Yes, Mr. God-I- ing-Know-It-All. This isn't devastating because not EVERYONE was wiped out all at one time.
Worst case scenario is that NO is wiped out and hundreds to thousands of lives lost. And that's exactly what's happening.Don't make me stop this car, you two.Yeah, exactly.
I don't know what crawled up your ass, but I'm not making it a point to prove you wrong or anything like that.
And no, we are not there yet! :p
Maybe SpursWoman just didn't appreciate Manny's at ude of talking down to her in that post.
Anyway, in regards to worst case scenario - this may end of being just as bad property-damage wise as it would have been if N.O. had got hit directly with a 30ft wall of water. But I'd say that death-toll wise, this is not going to be worst case scenario. (Or at least I'd hope it's not)
But really, does it matter?? If your family member or friend dies, is it any worse or better that they died with 100 people, 1000 people, 10000 people or alone?
It's beyond sad. I was crying last night when I was watching the news when that black man, Mr. Jackson, was describing how he was trying to hold on to his wife's hand when they were on the roof but the house split. She was swept away. She told him to just take care of the kids and that he couldn't hold her any longer. The guy was simply devasted as he walked the streets with all his children and no where to go.
Whether people were stupid to not get out, couldn't get out, or whatever - this is now just about loss of human life to me.
God Bless them. I hope as everyone does whatever they can do to save as many as possible.
From earlier:
How would you like to be some tourist that got picked up for drunk and disorderly, then in the midst of all this chaos get shipped to ing Angola?4:40 P.M. - (AP) State officials say they are working on plans to evaucate inmates from the Orleans Parish prison and the Jefferson Parish jail. Both facilities face a threat of flooding.
The state Corrections Department is trying to figure out how to transfer 4,000 inmates from the New Orleans jail and another 1,000 from the Jefferson Parish jail in Gretna.
The inmates would be moved to state prisons including the highest-security at Angola. Corrections spokesman Pam LaBorde says it's quite a logistical situation to accomplish.
yeah...either way the reaction time is just too long...
there a probably 50-75 dredges within a 100 miles west of New Orleans that would still be functional but they probably couldn't be set up and operational for 24 hours...it would take less than 12 hours to seal all the breaches if they put them all to work but even by then the bathtub will be full ...
Or it could have a rushing-the-stage effect and put even more pressure on the existing breech, eroding/breaking off it's sides making it bigger.
And from all the lore-type stories I've heard about the levee's, you'd think that between all of the beavers and dynamite there would be more than just two major breeches.
Man, this is getting worse by the moment. If they don't close the breach soon, New Orleans is going to be a lake. But if they don't rescue people now, they'll be no one to rescue by the team they get the water to stop flowing.
This just shows how bad it could have been. If the hurricane would have gone right thru the city, EVERYONE would be dead. The Superdome would be in pieces and the death toll would be measured by the hundred of thousands.
Rebuilding the city would be dumb. They dodged this bullet but one day it will hit them and the city will be done. New Orleans would just be Lake Pontchartrain South.
Build homes in cities to the north, give them to the homeless people for free and get them out of the damn bowl. And trust me, no one will complain about getting a free home that isn't in the New Orleans' ghetto.
New Orleans already is a city that was dying before this hurricane hit. The population was decreasing more and more as the years went on. If they decide this is the end, they'd be smart. If they don't, mother nature will make that decision for them before too long.
Oh come on. Everyone could've loaded up their Navigators and gotten out of there.
I wasn't choosing sides. I was trying to lighten the tension.Maybe SpursWoman just didn't appreciate Manny's at ude of talking down to her in that post.
*backing away slowly*
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