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nope
sea level is sea level.
Yeah, you're right about making it bigger. That water has to be erroding it.
nope
sea level is sea level.
Are they earthen levees?
Maybe Manny wasn't talking down to anyone even though there was a veiled "I told you so" in the previous post.Maybe SpursWoman just didn't appreciate Manny's at ude of talking down to her in that post.
Anyhow, Christy is good people so I offer the olive branch.....
footstool.
Maybe Manny wasn't talking down to anyone even though there was a veiled "I told you so" in the previous post.
Anyhow, Christy is good people so I offer the olive branch.....
footstool.
Offer a Wheat Thin instead!
True, but woudln't hte water flow torwards the path of least resistance, which would be the hole. If the water is flowing torwards that hole, that means it is putting less pressure on the rest?
, you're the one who graduated ofsumyungguy in engineering, I'll just take your word for it.
that, I'm not sharing. I don't even share with Jess.Offer a Wheat Thin instead!
Oh, and if you don't cry when you see the man who lost his wife on tv, you have no heart. That killed me.
I just checked the tide tables...the water in the lake will be approximately 1.3 feet higher by midnight (than the picture we have been looking at which was taken at low tide) and it's only a two tide day...that is an incredible amount of additional water. They are truly ed.
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That was terrible to watch. All he could ask for was that his wife's body be found. I can't imagine seeing something like that happen to someone I was going to spend the rest of my life with.
By the time the sun rises they won't have to be in any hurry to fix the levee. New Orleans will be part of Lake Ponchatrain.
The ACoE has plenty of smart guys in it, I'm sure. So why the are they even trying to repair the levee if the lakes outcome from high tide is common knowledge?
I am guessing yes?Are they earthen levees
From WWL's website:
Eyewitness News is asking any public official that wants to get their message out to call the west bank studio at 367-0842 or show up at the transmitter site. Public officials only please! Beginning Tuesday night, WWL-TV's hurricane coverage can be seen on Louisiana Public Broadcasting systems. In Baton Rouge on Cable Channel 11 and on digital channels around the rest of the state. There will be a hurricane special on all Louisiana public channels tonight at 9 p.m.
Not to steal timvp's line from earlier, but that's must-see TV. Hope I can find a good feed.
edit- I'm getting WWL again. Here's the link: http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/vid...props=livenoad
According to ESPN.com (), the Superdome is going to be evacuated.
Damn.
per ESPN.com:
BATON ROUGE, La. -- Rescuers in boats and helicopters struggled to reach hundreds of wet and bedraggled victims of Hurricane Katrina along the Gulf Coast on Tuesday, while New Orleans slipped deeper into crisis as water began rising in the streets because of a levee breaks.
In New Orleans, water began rising in the streets Tuesday morning, swamping an estimated 80 percent of the city and prompting the evacuation of hotels and hospitals. The water was also rising perilously inside New Orleans' Superdome, and Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said the tens of thousands of people now huddled there and other shelters would have to be evacuated as well.
"The situation is untenable," Blanco said at a news conference. "It's just heartbreaking."
Because of two levees that broke Tuesday, the city was rapidly filling with water, the governor said. She also said the power could be out for a long time, and the storm broke a major water main, leaving the city without drinkable water. Also, looting broke out in some neighborhoods.
"At first light, the devastation is greater than our worst fears. It's just totally overwhelming," Blanco said the morning after Katrina howled ashore with winds of 145 mph and engulfed thousands of homes in one of the most punishing storms on record in the United States.
At the Superdome, someone died after plunging from an upper level of the stadium, said Terry Ebbert, New Orleans' homeland security chief. He said the person probably jumped.
National Guardsmen brought in people from outlying areas to the Superdome in the backs of big 2½-ton Army trucks earlier Tuesday. Louisiana's wildlife enforcement department also brought people in on the backs of their pickups. Some were wet, some were in wheelchairs, some were holding babies and nothing else.
Also, the rising water forced one New Orleans hospital to move patients to the Superdome, and prompted the staff of New Orleans' Times-Picayune newspaper to abandon its offices, authorities said. Hotels were evacuated as well as the water kept rising.
Downtown streets that were relatively clear in the hours after the storm were filled with 1 to 1½ feet of water Tuesday morning. Water was knee-deep around the Superdome. Canal Street was literally a canal. Water lapped at the edge of the French Quarter. Clumps of red ants floated in the gasoline-fouled waters downtown.
"It's a very slow rise, and it will remain so until we plug that breach. I think we can get it stabilized in a few hours," Ebbert said.
New Orleans lies mostly below sea level and is protected by a network of pumps, canals and levees. Officials began using helicopters to drop 3,000-pound sandbags onto one of the levees, hoping to close the breach.
All day, rescuers were also seen using helicopters to drop lifelines to victims and pluck them from the roofs of homes cut off by floodwaters. The Coast Guard said it rescued some 1,200 people.
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said hundreds, if not thousands, of people may still be stuck on roofs and in attics, and so rescue boats were bypassing the dead.
"We're not even dealing with dead bodies," Nagin said. "They're just pushing them on the side."
Tens of thousands of people will need shelter for weeks if not months, said Mike Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. And once the floodwaters go down, "it's going to be incredibly dangerous" because of structural damage to homes, diseases from animal carcasses and chemicals in homes, he said.
An estimated 40,000 people were in American Red Cross shelters along the Gulf Coast.
Officials warned people against trying to return to their homes, saying that would only interfere with the rescue and recovery efforts.
Looting broke out in Biloxi and in New Orleans, in some cases in full view of police and National Guardsmen. On New Orleans' Canal Street, the main thoroughfare in the central business district, looters sloshed through hip-deep water and ripped open the steel gates on the front of several clothing and jewelry stores.
As for the death toll in Louisiana, Blanco said only "We have no counts whatsoever, but we know many lives have been lost."
WWL Blog update:
5:49 P.M. - (AP) WASHINGTON -- The Navy is sending three ships to the Gulf Coast with water and other supplies for those hit by Hurricane Katrina, but officials are urging service members not to try to return to their military bases in New Orleans.
5:46 P.M. - Four confirmed dead in St. Tammany. One died in traffic accident, one died after he stayed and a tree fell and trapped him in his home. Two others died by unknown reasons.
you obviously havent dealt with the Army Corp of Engineers. They are some of the dumbest ers with engineering degrees on the face of the earth.
they are "trying" to repair the levee so that it looks like they "tried".
Those choppers would be better used trying to rescue survivors.
You can call me a message board quarterback if you want, but from what I am seeing I am telling you that when you wake up in the morning it will be high tide and New Orleans will be under water and you will watch tide draining out all day...
screw the Army Corps of Engineers. They obviously don't know what the they are doing. Send in the Spurstalk Armchair Warriors to sort all this out. Without SAW, these people are surely ed.
I didn't think dumb ers were allowed to hold engineering degrees, but I'll take your word for this one. And I completely agree with both your preferred usage of their helicopters and what the city will look like come Wednesday morning.
I know it's in bad taste, but damn, I cannot get 'When the Levee Breaks' out of my head.
So sad.
Aren't there two breaches now? I'd expect more and more as the pressure of the water takes its toll.
I can't get Drove my chevy to the levy, bu the levy was dry out of my head.
I keep avoiding the link, I know I'll cry.
And I have a foot-stool very similar to that under my desk at home and I love it....good choice.
So the tide will affect the levees correct? Anyone know what time high tide is?
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