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They’re asking two FRPs for him, he was a late first rounder, and he’s been benched. Kesslers going nowhere.
I am totally 1000% against giving up Vassell having said that does anyone here compromise if to get lauri you give vassell but expand the deal Keldon etc. But they included Kessler????
They’re asking two FRPs for him, he was a late first rounder, and he’s been benched. Kesslers going nowhere.
While I have no doubt believing Ainge is asking for too much for Kessler, I think the “turning down of two FRPs” thing is overblown. NYK could have offered two Top-20 protected picks for all we know.
one real FRP (like Top-8 protected) would probably get Kessler, though he’s prob not worth it
if it’s for Devin with no other picks attached I might consider it, but Devin plus picks is two steps forward, 1.99 steps back. Not worth giving up primo draft capital for a marginal improvement that leaves you now having to replace a giant hole at SG
if you could do a 3 team deal where we sent out Devin and somehow got Lauri and a Derrick White caliber player - then it makes more sense. But Wemby + Lauri + Devin is the dream combo
If your a playoff team needing a big then might consider it but if I am not a playoff team no way do I do a top 8 protection pick
I agree but would you include Devin if your getting lauri and Kessler bk? I am more tempted by that because castle or some else can play sg but I'm only tempted lol I don't want to part with Devin
The goal of getting Lauri is to accelerate winning. Giving up Dev for Lauri counteracts a big part of the point of doing said trade. And you are now supposed to give up picks too which harms the future?
How does that make any sense?
Excellent analysis of the state of play. The topline: “Utah's best chance of truly winning Markkanen's situation has come and gone.”
https://syndication.bleacherreport.c...umors.amp.html
I wonder if the "Markkannen prevents then from tanking" narrative is a little overblown.
Is it possible that the key to Utah tanking last year to end the season was really trading away Fontecchio? He had really good advanced numbers, Nate Duncan had some incredible stats for his on/off numbers, raved about him.
Fontecchio started 34 games after becoming a starter in late November ... Utah was 20-14 in those starts.. Not saying Fontecchio is the mvp, but that he was just a great fit and lubricator for the Jazz system.
After the trade, Markannen played in 17 more games. They were 3-14.
Maybe Markannen by himself won't be keepi6mnv the Jazz from tanking. And if that's the case the pressure to trade him is less.
I’m over it. It’s way too expensive a price. Just find someone else for cheaper. It’s really a buyer’s market right now. So many free agents still looking for a deal. I’m sure there’s someone really good who will help the spurs for pennies compared to the Prince of Mormans.
He's Mormon?
You must be fun at the poker table ^^
Utah are the ones on a timeline, not the Spurs who also can offer the best package of all the candidates.
Just be patient
Spurs has plenty of options here. They can wait this out. It’s Jazz’ move to extend Markannen or if he force a trade. 2025 is a loaded draft. Spurs got pocket ace on Wemby.
im just saying I don’t think Ainge budges on this. I think he’ll just sign him and then maybe try to pick up some cheap free agents and make a run at it this year. Kennard, Trent Jr, and a few other free agents are actually good players. We should just go after those with sign and trades. Why pay Rolls Royce pricing?
Jazz is going rebuild you can bet on it, and Ainge will be a fool not to with a loaded 2025. Markkanen will be a nice piece but he’s not the only game, and not for a kings ransom. Spurs can be patient here.
It’s not Ainges decision, it’s Markannen’s. He can just not extend, and he might do just that. Utah has been in tank mode for two years, and to protect their pick, they have to tank the next two, since it’s 1-10 and 1-8 protection. That will make Lauri 29 before they even want to start winning.
Ainge doesn’t control the situation, Lauri does. If he doesn’t extend on the day of 6 August, he’s ineligible to be traded during the season, and Ainge gets scraps for him. This is an unusual situation where Ainge doesn’t hold the leverage, and everybody knows it, so they’re calling his bluff.
Tbh Markkanen would have to be completely bat crazy not to take $200+ mil if the Jazz are offering it. Secure the bag and think about basketball ambitions later is the smart thing to do.
Yeah but he can secure it on august 7 and then make himself ineligible to be traded until the offseason
Jazz won't offer it before Aug. 6th, because they want wo trade him with his current contract and let his new team figure it out...
It's the other way around: if Lauri does extend after August 6 then he can't be traded until next offseason.
If he just turns down all extension offers and plays out the last season of his contract, he can be traded all the way up to the trade deadline on February 6. Of course he won't fetch nearly as much in return because he would be a potential rental, but the acquiring team would have his full Bird rights.
I know that. And because of that they want to trade him now. But Ainge wants too much, other teams know about that constellation around Aug. 6, so at some point Ainge has to lower his demands...
We’ll see some movement before 8/6 unless the Jazz are serious about keeping him AND somehow tanking. We’ll see
Ingram and Markannen want a new contract 212/4. This is a serious problem of who to choose and how many picks to devote to it.
This is a serious problem of who to choose and how many picks to devote to it.This is a serious problem of who to choose and how many picks to devote to it.
It’s not even a choice. I take Lauri 100 times out of 100. If he’s not available you sit tight, and don’t waste $1 or one pick on Ingram.
Yea Ainge is nuts. Asking price is way too high. Hopefully this backfires and they hold onto him too long and it s up their tank. Then Lauri walks next Summer for nothing. Would be beautiful.
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