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    If conley, law, and crittenton are off the board by the miami pick at #20 I think they will go with pruitt. Fernandez and belenelli are very similar players, what seperates one from the other?

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    I've heard Miami likes Zabian Dowdell a lot, so could see them going with him first.

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    Dowdell in mid-late 1st, that would be suprising..Heat would be better off trading down if this was the case.

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    Dowdell in mid-late 1st, that would be suprising..Heat would be better off trading down if this was the case.
    I'd gladly facilitate that trade in order to grab up Rudy Fernandez.

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    I'd gladly facilitate that trade in order to grab up Rudy Fernandez.
    Agreed!!

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    As far as reputation Dowdell or Pruitt at 20 might be a stretch. They got an Orlando early second rounder for the rights to hire Stan Van Gundy, so they don't necessarily need to trade down, and should be able to find a decent point guard around there, so may not stretch for a guy at 20. Instead they should be able to find a SG or swingman with some talent there.

    But yes, they could jump on Pruitt there, although it seems high.

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    Miami could also use a SF (Byars) and come back with Dowdell..Didn't know they received Magic 2nd round pick so this makes more sense..

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    They got an Orlando early second rounder for the rights to hire Stan Van Gundy.
    When was this announced? Sources?

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    Byars. Yes, that's who I was missing. I've seen some good mock drafts that have them grabbing Derrick Byars there, making a lot of sense. Dowdell is too early there, but with the new pick (rubbish, I say, that they got it) they can find him or someone like him there.

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    As far as reputation Dowdell or Pruitt at 20 might be a stretch. They got an Orlando early second rounder for the rights to hire Stan Van Gundy, so they don't necessarily need to trade down, and should be able to find a decent point guard around there, so may not stretch for a guy at 20. Instead they should be able to find a SG or swingman with some talent there.

    But yes, they could jump on Pruitt there, although it seems high.
    I didn't realize that. I thought it was financial compensation only.

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    When was this announced? Sources?
    Uh... I'm too lazy to look it up, but they got it. The #39 or so.

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    Yes, it's #39 pick...Read about on espn and have also seen updated mock drafts changed (NBAdraft.net)

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    Yea I just noticed that too on nbadraft.net. Nice discovery Mr.Body .

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    Pruitt also has enough size, length, and scoring ability to play the 2 in a small-guard set as well...which has become evermore popular. So I think Pruitt has enough to stick it out in SA.

    Too add on my 2 cents: Pruitt would also have solid enough ball handling skills as a two guard option where he wouldn't be just another "spot up shooter" he could be able to create his own offense, drive to the basket, and push the ball on a fastbreak. And he's a good shooter anyway, which is the most easily translatable skill from college to the pros. He definitely isn't perfect like I may be making him out to be but he's the type of pg that the Spurs would have trouble finding anywhere else but this draft. So what if he is only with the Spurs for 4 years then out, by then the Spurs run would be pretty much over.
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    As your Spurs representative for the DX mock draft (via forums), I've selected:

    #28 Gabe Pruitt
    #33 Jared Dudley

    At least given the motley crew also drafting, these players were still available.
    There's been so much buzz about Dudley I doubt he'll be around on even the 28th pick.

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    There's been so much buzz about Dudley I doubt he'll be around on even the 28th pick.
    RealGM's mock has him going at 46. There is absolutely no way. This guy is 1st round material through and through.

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    Pruitt IMO is more likely to be there at #28. I think Fernandez might go by the late teens and Belinelli in the early 20s at the latest, while Pruitt could slip into the 2nd round if Phoenix doesn't nab him at #29.

    If all three are available, I'd go:

    Fernandez, Belinelli, Pruitt... in that order of preference.
    On Fernandez and Belinelli....I haven't seen any reports of them working out for teams or being heavily scouted. Are they still playing for their Euroleague teams?

    I still think that one of them slips into the late first round because of buyout concerns, etc. And if there's one thing the Spurs FO likes, it's foreigners. Here's my preference for the picks...but again I would be happy with so many others.

    #28 Fernandez/Pruitt

    #33 Dudley/Fazekas

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    Dudley is getting a lot of good press, but that's against guys around his same talent level. When push comes to shove, most GMs are still going to go for the big hits/homeruns. I could see Dominic McGuire getting taken before him, for example; plus, a lot of teams are still following the Phoenix model and will go more for athletes.

    When you look at the late first round... the question is which teams are likely to take Dudley there? Detroit could, but he's not a big need - if they take Stuckey at 15 they'll probably go for size. Houston has Battier and other needs to take care of. Etc. I can see Utah taking a real shine to him, but feel because of Kirilenko and the fact they're starting Fisher as a SG they'd rather take someone like Arron Afflalo there.

    Then you have Morris Almond floating around, who will look more attractive than Jared Dudley. Phoenix themselves own two 20s picks - although I think one will be sold.

    I see the scenario of Dudley slipping very easily into the second round. You have too many similar levels of talent around there - Aaron Gray, Afflalo, Fazekas, Almond, Dowdell - with varying skills, that it's not obvious Dudley shoots up the board.

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    On Fernandez and Belinelli....I haven't seen any reports of them working out for teams or being heavily scouted. Are they still playing for their Euroleague teams?
    Belinelli left the Treviso camp (Europe) early to work out for American teams. I have no idea the whereabouts of Fernandez - perhaps he's still playing?

    I wonder if the Spurs like Fazekas or think he works in their system. I could see Houston really going for him.

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    There's been so much buzz about Dudley I doubt he'll be around on even the 28th pick.
    We'll see. The upside on Dudley may not be as big as it with some other players. I think he would be a perfect rotation player for the Spurs. Put him at the '4' next to Duncan in small ball and that's an effective front line.

    But a lot of teams still want to use their first round pick on a guy who has the raw ability that - if harnessed - can translate to all-star games. Dudley is more polished than the majority of the draft, but in terms of pure athletic ability/size/strength/quickness, I think he's still got a pretty good chance to fall to the end of the round.

    Now, whether Buford/Pop even view him that highly is a whole different story...

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    Fernandez is playing in Spain. He is curently playing game 5 (series format is best of 5) of the semifinal.
    I'm watching game 5 of the other semifinal between Tau and Barcelona. The game is tied 40-40 and it's the start of the second half. A quite good game, very physical.

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    RealGM's mock has him going at 46. There is absolutely no way. This guy is 1st round material through and through.
    I noticed they have Dominic McGuire down at 56 now. I thought he was pretty secure at the top of the second round and hoped we could take him at 33.

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    Where is realgm's house mock you guys are finding? McGuire at 56 is crazy; he's gone by 40, I'd say.

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    http://www.realgm.com/src_feature/91...measurements)/

    I think they meant 54th overall for McGuire.

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    I'm watching game 5 of the other semifinal between Tau and Barcelona. The game is tied 40-40 and it's the start of the second half. A quite good game, very physical.
    Barcelona is up by 20 with 3 min left (84-64).
    Tau is eliminated of the spanich league.
    Scola has been really bad for the last and most important game of his season.

    Edit : So Tau lost 95-79. Scola fouled out on a flagrant foul with one minute left and was really pissed. I don't know what will happen with him next year but it was a kinda sad ending of his season and maybe of his career in europe.
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