I like him at #28 if available..I agree with the barry stmt and I do not think barry will be back next year for his final year so this could be good fit. Also, he would still be step up from barry on the defensive end
Morris Almond
Has anyone brought up this guy? He's not a point, nor the long three, he is weak on D but can shoot lights out. He is a senior so he is mature and seems like a Spurs type player. Could replace Barry as he seems to be the same sort of player only much younger.
I have not read the whole thread so forgive if he has come up.
If Splitter slips to 28, do you select him? He fits the profile of a draft and stash type. However, I'm guessing a team like the Suns will draft and stash him before the Spurs get a chance.
It's looking like at least one of Splitter, Belinelli and Fernandez will be available at 28. Each of those three players were at one point considered lottery picks, so it'd be pretty good value.
Has Splitter actually done anything besides winning the 2004 Wolf Blitzer Cool Name award?
Perhaps now that Whiz Kid is gone the Spurs will actually use their 1st rounder on someone who can play now.
Yes, yes, yes on Splitter.
Actually yes on any of those freaking guys, even if they won't come right away. But I think Splitter gets grabbed by Utah or Houston if he drops, at least... but one of the other guys might be there.
I can live with any of those 3 in the first round. At 33, I'd like a more polished, ready for the rotation type player, even if there is less upside (i.e. Dudley).
Doesn't really address the back-up point issue though.
If we ended up with splitter and dudley with our 1st 2 picks I would be very happy with this draft. Again, I prefer to bring in a veteran for our PG issues and not a rookie who may take 2 years to understand the spurs system. Re-sign Vaughn as insurance (No matter how many people about this guy he would have outplayed any rookie drafted by the spurs last and this year) and possibly another veteran for depth reason.
Regardless of whether the Spurs draft a point guard I'd expect them to resign Vaughn to be primary back-up.
What does the availability of Chucky Atkins look like? He'd be a great possible backup for next year with Vaughn along for the ride.
Of course, Aaron Miles could always pan out as well...
Aaron Miles would be just too many Jayhawks, I can barely stomach Vaughn...
Anybody think Vaughn could actually be better Year 2 in the system? I'm sure more familiarity would help, but he's already a heady player, so I don't think he had a huge learning curve. In addition, most of his limitations were more skills-wise and not experience. Then again, another year with Chip couldn't hurt.
Hey, I'll take whats available!
Almond isn't the same sort of player like Barry. he is more a player in the mold of Finley, if we want a comparrison with a current Spurs player.
(I'm also talking about the current Finley and not the super athletic Finley some years ago)
nevertheless he would be a nice repleacement of Barry as the back-up SG and should fit well in the Spurs system. don't think that he is on top of the Spurs draft list, but wouldn't wonder if he is on. so, if the other players are already picked, he might end up as a Spur. I wouldn't mind.
he was compared to quite different typs of players on the draft sites, like Redd, Barnes, Webster, George. IMO none is accurate. I would currently go with Anthony Parker as his NBA comparison.
Word on the Street: Promises...Houston's Workouts...Koponen
by: Jonathan Givony - President
June 7, 2007
Stuckey to Detroit?
-Does Rodney Stuckey have a promise from Detroit? That’s what some people are starting to believe, even though we don’t really buy these types of rumors, since it makes very little sense. Some people say that Stuckey is privately claiming to have received the guarantee, while others believe he is one of a handful of players Detroit is considering with the 15th pick.
Interestingly enough, Stuckey has one workout scheduled with the Seattle Supersonics, who hold the #2 and #31 picks, neither of which are in his range. That workout, to be held on June 11th, will be conducted with Acie Law, who isn’t really in that range at all either. We were told to “draw our own conclusions” from that, while being assured that there is a “method behind the madness.”
Similarly to what we discussed yesterday with Portland, this could very well be another situation where Seattle could easily jump up and land a late lottery pick if they so desire. Stuckey is also scheduled to work out for the Phoenix Suns on the 18th. The Suns are telling people that they are planning on packaging the picks to move up and nab the player they like most, which is exactly what they said last year as well (holding the #21 and #27 spots) before selling/trading both picks.
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Yi's Workouts
The Atlanta Journal Cons ution reported yesterday that the Atlanta Hawks headed to Los Angeles to take in a workout featuring Yi Jianlian. We've learned that Danny Ainge of the Boston Celtics was present for an identical one-on-none workout the day before.
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Houston Rockets Workouts in Orlando
After our initial report last night, today we received a lot more information from people who were in Orlando watching the unprecedented series of workouts organized by the Houston Rockets at Celebration High School, not far from where the NBA pre-draft camp was held last week. Around 10 teams were present to take in the action, although not all were represented by their General Managers.
Apparently there were actually six workouts conducted on the first day prospects were allowed to work out, not the three we initially reported. Arron Afflalo, Renaldas Seibutas, Petteri Koponen, Sean Singletary, Joseph Jones, Aaron Brooks, and others were also present, joined by Bobby Brown, Dominic James, Jeremy Hunt, Brandon Heath, Morris Almond, Brad Newley, Reyshawn Terry, Jared Dudley, Devon Hardin, Aaron Gray, Nick Fazekas, and Jason Smith.
In addition to the six workouts held on the 5th, there were also three more today. They featured Ron Lewis, Sammy Mejia, Trey Johnson and Dustin Salisbery in the first one, followed by Chris Richard, Ali Traore, Ryvon Covile, and Rashad Jones-Jennings in the second, and Herbert Hill, Ekene Ibekwe, “some foreign guy,” and Jermareo Davidson in the third, according to a scout that was present. There were also be one more workout tomorrow.
There was quite a bit of buzz coming from people who were in the gym. A lot of it surrounded Jared Dudley, who was in one scout’s words, “most impressive player amongst the 36 guys I saw.” The scout went on to say that Dudley competed extremely hard, showed a beautiful jumper, stayed in front of his matchups nicely in the compe ive 2 on 2 drills, and looked like a consummate pro. In his words, he would make “a great addition to any NBA team.” The same scout also mentioned that Morris Almond “looked good,” and that Reyshawn Terry ”was better than I thought.”
Apparently Dominic James could not finish his workout. Any doubt that remained regarding whether or not he will be back at Marquette next year is quickly evaporating. Everyone James’ people have spoken to have told him that it is in his best bet to return to school, since he is by no means a lock to get drafted.
Other tidbits to come out of Orlando…
-“Taurean Green is definitely a first round pick to me…he has such a good demeanor, he made shots…he’s not going to wow you, but I’ve still never seen him hurt himself.”
-“Devon Hardin is an animal. Just a big, strong, athletic kid. But he has such little skill, he needs to go back to school. He’s a nice kid, yes sir no sir to everything, but he just doesn’t understand the game. He’s a second round pick to me”
-“Aaron Gray was really good. He ran well, his body looked great, he’s smart and understands the game. He shot the ball really well. He definitely solidified himself here. He could play for you right now.”
-“Jason Smith is really athletic, but I don’t know what position he plays. He can shoot and he’s obviously talented, but he really got buried by Fazekas and Gray. He looked really nervous. He needs to calm down, take a deep breath. He’s almost too fast for his own good.”
-“Fazekas was really good. He runs like it hurts, but you put him in specific settings and he just gets it done. He’ll be solid with a really good point guard next to him. He’s not going to jump over anyone for rebounds, but I see him in the late first round.”
-“Reyshawn Terry has that UNC coolness to him. He doesn’t get after it enough. He has great size and strength, and he put it on the floor great, shot it some even, was good all-around. He can defend when he wants to too. The only question is will he allow himself to get at the pace he needs to go?”
-“Jermareo Davidson was impressive. He shot the NBA 3-pointer well and looked really athletic. He looked coachable and showed a lot of potential. This is probably the best I’ve seen him out of anywhere.”
-"Ryvon Covile is as solid as they come. He is a big wide body who can hit the 15 footer and knows how to play. He should definitely get drafted by someone."
-“Bobby Brown can shoot the crap out of it, and he’s athletic enough to get by anyone in the 2 on 2’s. In this setting, he looks great.”
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Petteri Koponen Impresses in Orlando, Pulls out of Treviso
6-5 Finnish point guard Petteri Koponen was another of the players that looked very good in front of about 1/3rd of the league working out in Orlando on the 5th. Koponen impressed scouts in attendance with his “great size” as well as with the fact that he wasn’t rattled by the very athletic American point guards he went up against—Sean Singletary, Taurean Green and Aaron Brooks among them. He apparently “made a lot of open shots” despite his slightly unconventional shooting mechanics, and did a terrific job in particular in the compe ive full-court one on one, blowing by Aaron Brooks on one particular occasion. He’s “tough…poised…confident…and obviously has some leadership skills” according to one NBA scout who was particularly impressed by him.
Unfortunately for us, Koponen has since decided to pull his name out of the RBK Eurocamp in Treviso, according to his agent Marc Cornstein. The reason for that is the excessive amount of travel that it would entail to get to Italy and then back for private workouts. Although Cornstein told us that he “thinks he will stay in,” Koponen can still pull his name out of the draft on the 18th if he so desires, having stated in the past that he needs to be a first round pick in order to stay in. Koponen was a rare first round prospect who wanted to participate in the Orlando Pre-draft camp, but was mysteriously not invited by the committee.
-Check out our ever-growing list of NBA private workout schedules, and do email us with any that we might have missed.
I was reading a little bit of the rumor mills & they are saying that Golden State will probably look to move the 18th pick for picks. Possibly a 2nd rounder in this draft & a future first. I wonder if Pop can put something together with Nellie that helps both teams? Would you be willing to move all 3 picks this year, or maybe 2 of the 3 to move up to the 18th? nbadraft.net has Rudy Fernandez in the 18th spot right now.
Why, for Golden State? Are they having cash problems? Too many young players already? No one there they like? Are you saying they're looking to move down in the draft, or move out?
I could see Indiana or Cleveland trying to move into the first round, since neither had a draft pick this year.
Here's the quote
"Golden State has reportedly put the number 18 selection on the market; don’t be surprised if they trade down into the second round and pick up a future first, basically deferring the pick until next year. "
I can see the Spurs trying to grab the 18 using the 33 and a future first... possibly. That's actually fairly expensive. If it were the 58 and a future first, essentially buying a year early on a pick, I don't see them doing it due to roster spaces. #33+2008 first is too expensive for the #18 IMO, although certainly if they like Rudy Fernandez or somebody.
I'm sure the Warriors are looking for a future #1 that is likely to be mid-teens next season. Doubtful that they deal with the Spurs, but I wouldn't complain. Law at #18 would be great.
Bump
Another guy who will have a workout with the spurs after afflalo , visser ....
Demetris Nichols who played wel during orlando predraft camp also another wing player
From HoopsHype rumors
In the coming weeks, Nichols is scheduled to work out for Miami, Seattle, Minnesota, Golden State, Portland, San Antonio and Houston, according to his agent, Bill Duffy.
Nichols, a 6-foot-8 small forward, earned All-Big East honors last season after averaging 18.9 points for Syracuse. He also made 100 out of 240 3-point shot attempts.
But Nichols really generated some buzz at the NBA's pre-draft camp in Orlando last week. In three games, Nichols averaged 13.7 points and went 9-for-13 from 3-point range. He was 15-for-23 overall from the field.
"Demetris did very well," Duffy said. "He was probably one of the more outstanding players at the camp, according to the reports we received. The feedback I got is that he has one absolute NBA skill and that's his shooting. But we already knew that."
A good way to judge the draft stock of a player is to see with who he works out.
For Nichols :
Miami : 39th
Seattle : 31st and 35th
Minnesota : 41st
Golden State : 36th and 46th
Portland : 37th
San Antonio : 28th and 33rd
Houston : 26th
If you go to draft Express, they have an article comparing the SGs at the camp in a lot of statistical categories.. Almond came out on top in many of them and was by far the leading SG.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2101
DX was so complimentary, His agent should mail the article to all the GMs.
According to DX, the Spurs worked out Nikita Shabalkin on June 6. He's exactly the type of player that the Spurs like--no one knows much about him 'cause he was injured last season and he's a young Euro they can stash overseas without paying any money.
Just a hunch, but I predict we'll draft him.
how about we trade with GS for steph jackson or the french dude + draft picks for brent+beno+draft picks......we take stephs contract and they get to cut there payroll, when is stephs contract end?
Pruitt and Afflalo :http://www.latimes.com/sports/custom...-sports-extras
Aaron Gray :Afflalo, an All-American who left UCLA after his junior season, has already performed for the Houston Rockets and is scheduled to work out Friday for the Lakers. Later, he is expected to showcase his skills for Philadelphia, Utah and San Antonio. Pruitt, who left USC after his junior season, has workouts scheduled for Seattle, Utah, Detroit, Golden State and San Antonio.
http://www.mcall.com/sports/basketba...smorehoops-hed
Not just his workouts with the Sixers, but also with Sacramento, New York, New Jersey, Washington, Toronto, San Antonio and Utah, workouts Gray has planned over the next eight days.
He worked out in Miami on Wednesday, and participated in workouts for Atlanta, Boston, Minnesota, Sacramento and Houston with 24 other invited players in three-day workout organized by the Rockets in Orlando.
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