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    Belinelli left the Treviso camp (Europe) early to work out for American teams. I have no idea the whereabouts of Fernandez - perhaps he's still playing?

    I wonder if the Spurs like Fazekas or think he works in their system. I could see Houston really going for him.
    Understanding that Steve Novak is a much less complete player, I see the similarity with outside shooting and size...so why duplicate talent? I think that Houston could go elsewhere with their first rounder. They could go with a PG, a shooter, a low-post big with rebounding/defense. I'm not completely "poo-pooing" the idea, just think that he still might be around in the early second for the Spurs' taking.

    On whether he's a "Spurs" guy is hard to say. He seems to have a good inside-out game and show some level of toughness (though it has been questioned in the tourney). We'll see, but he could be a good addition to this team with his offensive versatility.

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    The realgm mock is pretty lousy. I won't count the ways, even if it's not totally horrific, but even saying in their pick comments that Taurean Green wouldn't be "much of a drop off at all" from Tony Parker is a goddamn moron. Green would be lucky to ever be as good as Parker is right now.

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    I honestly don't like that realgm mock draft, Spurs drafting those guys would be a very bad dream. And yes Mr. Body, the entire mock itself is crap.

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    Understanding that Steve Novak is a much less complete player, I see the similarity with outside shooting and size...so why duplicate talent? I think that Houston could go elsewhere with their first rounder. They could go with a PG, a shooter, a low-post big with rebounding/defense. I'm not completely "poo-pooing" the idea, just think that he still might be around in the early second for the Spurs' taking.

    On whether he's a "Spurs" guy is hard to say. He seems to have a good inside-out game and show some level of toughness (though it has been questioned in the tourney). We'll see, but he could be a good addition to this team with his offensive versatility.
    Don't know him too well, but Novak is almost strictly an outside shooter, while Fazekas (in the NCAAs at least) was a terrific rebounder and shot blocker on top of being a great shooter.

    I just checked out his NCAA stats... didn't realize Novak was so tall; he certainly doesn't play his height. In that way he's closer to a Matt Bullard. Fazekas could be a different player. I've liked Morris Almond a lot for Houston, and think rather that's where they'd go, whether or not Bonzi Wells winds up coming back.

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    Just went to NBAdraft.net and they have us taking Caleb Green, a Sr. from Oral Roberts at 58.

    Trust me, at that pick the Spurs will take a Euro for sure. No payments up front and a wave and good luck to ya from the F.O.

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    NBAdraft.net also has a note that team needs will not even be considered in their mock until after the season ends...

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    Fernandez is playing in Spain. He is curently playing game 5 (series format is best of 5) of the semifinal.
    Fernandzez' team lost, Fernandez season is over.
    Ferandez scored 15 points.

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    Fernandzez' team lost, Fernandez season is over.
    Ferandez scored 15 points.
    Fernandez needs to be a Spur!

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    Fernandez needs to be a Spur!
    It's his destiny....

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    Notes on Beabios...

    What jumped out at me was the 6'9 wingspan (REDICULOUS!) and the comparison to Rajon Rondo...a freakish athlete that plays great defense, though he also has no "shot".

    Rodrigue Beaubois, PG, 6-2, 170, France
    Beaubois is a 19-year-old point guard who really has surprised a number of NBA scouts here. I don't think anyone came into the camp expecting much (in fact, few had ever even seen him play) but just about everyone is impressed with his athleticism, quickness, length (he has a huge 6-9 wing span) and hands. Physically, he resembles Rajon Rondo.

    Beaubois was discovered by Warriors guard Mickael Pietrus at one of his camps in Guadeloupe. Each year Pietrus works with hundreds of kids and narrows it down to a handful that he'll help get jobs in France. Beaubois is the first kid to make it this far.

    "He's a very good player," Pietrus, who is attending the camp in Italy, told ESPN.com. "I think he is developing the skills to be a pro. He just has to be patient."

    Beaubois had 10 points on 4-of-7 shooting in 20 minutes of play Saturday. That was enough, apparently, for some teams. Beaubois agent, Bill McCandless, told me on Sunday morning that he got a couple of offers from teams in the second round. The idea is that if Beaubois stops playing, stays in the draft and is available, they'll take him.

    I think that might be overdoing it a little. Beaubois seems like a prospect, but he doesn't have the strength or the experience to play in the NBA anytime soon. He's a "down-the-road" prospect. Still, teams know that he might come at a much higher price next season, so maybe they're willing to take the chance now.

    Beaubois was on the roster of the Eurocamp All-Star game on Sunday but didn't play, raising some eyebrows and su ions that he might have taken someone up on the offer.

    Not bad for 20 minutes of work.
    There's that down-the-road European prospect that no one has ever heard of and that the Spurs will take at #58

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    There's that down-the-road European prospect that no one has ever heard of and that the Spurs will take at #58
    If he stays in the draft: YES. But he supposedly received several second round promises but nothing in the first. He will likely pull out early.

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    It's his destiny....

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    does anyone think the spurs could draft undersized pg's like brooks or dominic james ??

    Aaron Brooks IMO is a good player but i didn't saw a lot of things about james but he seems to be quick , with great speed and maybe here with the no 58 pick

    my mock is

    no.28 Pruitt or Byars / Bellineli if they still there
    no.33 Dudley/ Fazekas
    no.58 ??

    Lot of options also considering Nichols who can be good with our second round pick .

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    the problem with that is that even the "successful" undersized points like boykins tend to be large (no pun intended) liabilities on the defensive end of the floor. in 2005, we saw how a guy like billups could just outmuscle and work over the top of parker, and tony's 6'2.

    i could see pop going with a guy like vaughn over a greatly undersized point.

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    I'm starting to see mock drafts with Taurean Green as a Spur at #28. I hope not - he seems like a Shammond Williams to me.

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    I'm starting to see mock drafts with Taurean Green as a Spur at #28. I hope not - he seems like a Shammond Williams to me.
    I agree, theres no way I take him at 28. And the only way I take Green is if Zadian Dowdell is already off the board anyways. Not to mention Gabe Pruitt.

    Have the Spurs really expressed much interest in Green to begin with?

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    I agree, theres no way I take him at 28. And the only way I take Green is if Zadian Dowdell is already off the board anyways. Not to mention Gabe Pruitt.

    Have the Spurs really expressed much interest in Green to begin with?
    According to Bruno's post at #1631 there is no indication of a workout with Green. The only PGs figured out yet (due to Spurs' CIAdom) are Jared Jordan, Zabian Dowdell, and Pruitt. Since I see Jordan as highly unlikely, that means there are only two PGs so far the Spurs are interested in.

    But we still have three weeks.

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    Spurs never brought in Mahinimi, Krstic, or a bunch of players they reportedly had interest in. Based on past practices I'd say there is a better than 50/50 chance we haven't a clue based on who they work out who they may be interested in.

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    Krstic???

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    Consider this a bump..

    Beno or Duhon/Barry to Cavs
    Scola to bulls
    Nocioni to Spurs
    Spurs receive 2nd rd pick from bulls

    Eveyone is happy!!

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    I don't think that works within the CBA, unless I'm missing what the Cavs give up equal in salary to Cleveland.

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    the cavs would have to give up either snow or marshall..Just a thought.

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    In my mind, I have the Spurs going after a perimeter player (combo guard or sg) and a big at the #28 and #33 picks. How would that effect the Spurs ability to nab a free agent sf (Nocioni, Posey, Pietrus, etc.)? and who would you prefer the Spurs going after?

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    the cavs would have to give up either snow or marshall..Just a thought.
    I'd rather have Barry than either - don't see Chicago wanting either one.

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    In my mind, I have the Spurs going after a perimeter player (combo guard or sg) and a big at the #28 and #33 picks. How would that effect the Spurs ability to nab a free agent sf (Nocioni, Posey, Pietrus, etc.)? and who would you prefer the Spurs going after?
    I think that's reasonable. I can see a Marc Gasol or Kyle Visser at #33. Whomever they draft will likely have little effect on their going after Nocioni or someone like that; there is no starter-caliber SF still available that late in the draft, at least right away.

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    I think that's reasonable. I can see a Marc Gasol or Kyle Visser at #33. Whomever they draft will likely have little effect on their going after Nocioni or someone like that; there is no starter-caliber SF still available that late in the draft, at least right away.
    While I can believe that there is no immediate starter available, I don't think that we would find an immediate starter at SF if we were drafting 1st, even if we passed on Oden, Durant, .... We have effective veterans at that point, and Pop is a tough taskmaster for rookies. I can't see a rookie snagging a starting spot anywhere except maybe at C (even then Oberto has the starting C spot pretty locked up right now), just because of the level of veteran talent on this team.

    I can see us picking up whomever we think is the best prospect at both #28 and #33. In particular, we know we will have spaces in our wing spots in the coming years, and there appear to be several good prospects that will be available in that range. I can see us getting 2 Wings - eg. Dudley and Demitris Nichols...I do hope we don't get Visser or Gasol; I'm not really impressed with either of them...

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